This is the year 2015 right?
I work for an energy company but I can't wait until the day we no longer have to give a significant chunk of daily $s to the arab oil states. Complete wankers.
Exactly, beheading is the cool thing to do now, gramps. Get with the times.
OK, I believe.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...n-disturbing-surge-of-beheadings-9686063.html
Saudi Arabia executes 19 in one half of August in 'disturbing surge of beheadings'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
Human Rights in Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia is one of approximately thirty countries in the world with judicial corporal punishment. In Saudi Arabia's case this includes amputations of hands and feet for robbery, and flogging for lesser crimes such as "sexual deviance" and drunkenness. In the 2000s, it was reported that women were sentenced to lashes for adultery; the women were actually victims of rape, but because they could not prove who the perpetrators were, they were deemed guilty of committing adultery.[6] The number of lashes is not clearly prescribed by law and is varied according to the discretion of judges, and ranges from dozens of lashes to several hundreds, usually applied over a period of weeks or months. In 2004, the United Nations Committee Against Torture criticized Saudi Arabia over the amputations and floggings it carries out under Sharia. The Saudi delegation responded defending "legal traditions" held since the inception of Islam 1,400 years ago and rejected interference in its legal system.
The courts continue to impose sentences of flogging as a principal or additional punishment for many offences.[5] At least five defendants were sentenced to flogging of 1,000 to 2,500 lashes.[5] Flogging was carried out in prisons.[5]
Official: 15 of 19 Sept. 11 hijackers were Saudi
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/27/politics/27exodus.html?_r=0
New York Times: New Details on F.B.I. Aid for Saudis After 9/11
Fookin´ ell . . .
Saudi Arabia executes 19 in one half of August in 'disturbing surge of beheadings'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia
Human Rights in Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia is one of approximately thirty countries in the world with judicial corporal punishment. In Saudi Arabia's case this includes amputations of hands and feet for robbery, and flogging for lesser crimes such as "sexual deviance" and drunkenness. In the 2000s, it was reported that women were sentenced to lashes for adultery; the women were actually victims of rape, but because they could not prove who the perpetrators were, they were deemed guilty of committing adultery.[6] The number of lashes is not clearly prescribed by law and is varied according to the discretion of judges, and ranges from dozens of lashes to several hundreds, usually applied over a period of weeks or months. In 2004, the United Nations Committee Against Torture criticized Saudi Arabia over the amputations and floggings it carries out under Sharia. The Saudi delegation responded defending "legal traditions" held since the inception of Islam 1,400 years ago and rejected interference in its legal system.
The courts continue to impose sentences of flogging as a principal or additional punishment for many offences.[5] At least five defendants were sentenced to flogging of 1,000 to 2,500 lashes.[5] Flogging was carried out in prisons.[5]
Official: 15 of 19 Sept. 11 hijackers were Saudi
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/27/politics/27exodus.html?_r=0
New York Times: New Details on F.B.I. Aid for Saudis After 9/11
Fookin´ ell . . .
Last week I learned that joking about beheadings is not on. Try the outrage style.
ah... forget it...
There's no rationality when you're talking with this religion
There's no rationality when you're talking with this religion
Highest rates of executions happen in China. I don't expect boycotts anytime soon.
Maybe because the population of China is well over 1 billion. Per capita the execution rate would be a different country without doubt.
I read that in SA they also crucify some of the decapitated corpses and leave them on public display.
I think I can understand why some people feel the need for death as justice for a crime (obviously not in this case). However I don't think I'll ever understand why it needs to be done so... Messily. I mean, beheading, really? Just kill them, don't make a show of it. It's so disgusting when you think about it.
More needs to be done to protect this guy.
More needs to be done to protect this guy.
Fantastic. They can execute tons thanks to that huge population.
Chinese Man Cleared Of Rape, Murder 18 Years After His Execution
In 1996, China executed an 18-year-old man named Huugjilt for the rape and murder of a woman in a public toilet. But Monday, Chinese authorities cleared the ethnic Mongolian of the crime and offered a rare apology to his family.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...-man-it-executed-18-years-ago-for-rape-murder
Why China will struggle to end organ harvesting from executed prisoners
Updated 0826 GMT (1626 HKT) December 5, 2014
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/05/world/asia/china-prisoners-organs/
http://stoporganharvesting.org/
They do it in Saudi to strike fear into the hearts of their people. They have an hereditary monarchy that hoardes the nations wealth. A lot of the executed are 'political' criminals. They use Islam to keep the people under heal, it is a great tool for that.
They are all just as bad as each other. I'm not defending any. But saying China does it more is simply down to their massive population. If Saudi Arabia had a population similar to China I don't think they'd be put off doing it whenever they deem justifiable.
#JesuisBadawi
I agree with both being as bad as each other. The point I wanted to make was that dependence on Arab oil was not the only example where Western society benefits economically from relationships with awful regimes.
Don't know what else can be said about them, just backwards.
Genuinely still stuck in the dark ages. Were they even this stupid back then though?
Very likely, the Arab world had an innovative peak during the Middle Ages if I'm not mistaken.
Actually no. It is the year 1436 there, so they are still in medieval. Hopefully, with people like Badawi they will start the renaissance soon enough.
Yep, the same year where people in our developed, Western society torture animals and humans for fun and parents starve and beat their children to death.
So condemn them too then.
Such a weird statement.
It is a typical Mihajlovic statement.
In the context of this thread certainly.
Obviously I'm condemning them as well. But that's regardless of any of those barbaric things happening in 2015. The fact that it's 2015 is largely irrelevant to me.
I've said this numerous times, but the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia pretty much uses ISIS methods as official state policy. The difference is that they're good friends and allies of the West, so their internal barbarism gets a free pass.
Something to think about before the likes of Cameron and Obama try to claim the moral highground in issues like Syria and Ukraine.
Something to think about before the likes of Cameron and Obama try to claim the moral highground in issues like Syria and Ukraine.
They have capital punishment by way of chopping off heads and the U.S. has it by way of electrocuting people to death, well at least until a year or two ago.
As for the last bit, you still haven't figured out why states interact with one another have you.
It's not just how they carry out the sentence, but also why. Killing people because they change what they believe? It's a refusal to accept someone's right to believe in what they want, even if it is nothing.
Yes its abhorrent and needs to be condemned. The Saudis have had a free ride on economic grounds for far too long.
Saudi-ISIS is a rogue state, fully supported by the USA and EU.
Execute somebody for apostasy? Where did they get that idea from?
Its actually not a rogue state and people comparing Saudi with ISIS are not helping. The Saudis simply need to reform their system and those who do business with them, particularly the US, should play a role. As should the global community by highlighting ridiculously heinous things like killing a blogger who wants to leave the religion.
Where do you think ISIS are getting their weapons and cash from? Take a look at these http://www.globalresearch.ca/spot-the-difference-the-islamic-state-isis-versus-saudi-arabia/5426652
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ing-the-militant-inferno-who-is-10024324.html
ISIS have got most of their heavy weapons from routing fleeing Iraqi units as well as Syrian ones. They are receiving funding from all over the Muslim world, and as we know a good number of their braintrust are coming from Europe and North Africa. Its fashionable to blame the Saudis for everything, but that's an oversimplification to a broader issue that needs to be dealt with.
I agree, but a lot of this stuff is linked. The West needs to put pressure on the Saudi's, but the addiction to Saudi oil is preventing that.
I think the policies will change in the future, especially as the US is now the world's biggest oil producer. Its also likely to change as Saudi society continues to develop from within and other countries dealing with them continue to draw attention their societal norms.
But now that Saudi have upped their oil production, thus reducing the price it makes the USA oil fracking uneconomical. The question is, have they collapsed the oil market with EU-USA approval in order to get at Russia or are they acting alone. A complex web of stuff going on.