salary cap

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No, I'm not suggesting introducing one into the premiership or anything like that

Just wanted to get people's opinions on this

I for one don't really like them. Whilst I agree that a fledgling competition like say the A-league might need it, I'm generally against it as I think clubs lose alot of identity.

For example in Australia's NRL, players are constantly moving between clubs because of salary cap issues. Eventually the clubs have all become 'grey' to me as I have the club I support and the league players that I like that have moved to other clubs. It's come to the point where I'm just not interested at all.


I'm worried this may happen to the A-league. Right now I can see its importance as if yo uget a team that becomes to whipping boys of the comp, they always will be and will almost never recover as fans won't turn up to that. However, at the same time is it good for the comp that last year's champions (by a long long way) are now not even going to make the cut at the final?

Sure unpredictable results are great but we've seen that so many sides raise their games against the best opposition results can always be unpredictable.

Anyway, what is the opinion of the caf on caps?
 
Chapster said:
No, I'm not suggesting introducing one into the premiership or anything like that

Just wanted to get people's opinions on this

I for one don't really like them. Whilst I agree that a fledgling competition like say the A-league might need it, I'm generally against it as I think clubs lose alot of identity.

For example in Australia's NRL, players are constantly moving between clubs because of salary cap issues. Eventually the clubs have all become 'grey' to me as I have the club I support and the league players that I like that have moved to other clubs. It's come to the point where I'm just not interested at all.


I'm worried this may happen to the A-league. Right now I can see its importance as if yo uget a team that becomes to whipping boys of the comp, they always will be and will almost never recover as fans won't turn up to that. However, at the same time is it good for the comp that last year's champions (by a long long way) are now not even going to make the cut at the final?

Sure unpredictable results are great but we've seen that so many sides raise their games against the best opposition results can always be unpredictable.

Anyway, what is the opinion of the caf on caps?
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Well, in the US, the NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary caps, while the MLB does not. Therefore, it leads to a situation where most of the talk in the MLB is about the Red Sox and Yankees, the two biggest and richest baseball clubs in the world. So if you are a fan of either team, you think the world is perfect, since your team is always buying the best player available. If you are a fan of the Minnesota Twins, you accept the fact your team will not contend for championships very often, and you come to accept your team will develop talent, only to see it slip away to Boston or New York in its prime.

The most successful league, the NFL, tries to make the competition even. Needless to say, it has worked well for them.
 
Pennypacker said:
Well, in the US, the NFL, NBA and NHL all have salary caps, while the MLB does not. Therefore, it leads to a situation where most of the talk in the MLB is about the Red Sox and Yankees, the two biggest and richest baseball clubs in the world. So if you are a fan of either team, you think the world is perfect, since your team is always buying the best player available. If you are a fan of the Minnesota Twins, you accept the fact your team will not contend for championships very often, and you come to accept your team will develop talent, only to see it slip away to Boston or New York in its prime.

The most successful league, the NFL, tries to make the competition even. Needless to say, it has worked well for them.
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agreed
 
NBA cap is a joke. It has many loopholes that allow teams to exceed the cap in order to keep "homegrown" players and veterans. NBA introduced a salary tax not to long ago.

NFL cap is the true example of a hard cap. Bonuses, incentives, etc., are all tied to the cap and if a player is cut, traded, or retires, past paid monies that were pro-rated can be accelerated, often tying up large chunks of money into current year and in some cases current year and next year.

MLB has a salary tax, which is a joke. Teams like Florida don't care about spending money so they just take the tax man's handout and bank it. Can't really complain about a business owner trying to make a profit.

I have no clue about the NHL these days. I know they have some type of cap, think it's similar to NBA.

If the Premiership introduce a salary cap you can forget a club ever winning Europe when continental clubs will gobble up all the high priced talents while Premiership clubs settle for second and third rate players. It would create parity in England, allowing other clubs to compete for top players within the country, meaning more clubs with realistic chances of winning the league.

Pennypacker said:
The most successful league, the NFL, tries to make the competition even. Needless to say, it has worked well for them.
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And every club makes an annual profit. Not one single club is in debt or facing bankruptcy (administration for you English types), which drives club values sky high (think the average NFL club is worth around $700m). That is the one good thing about a league salary cap - clubs are gauranteed xx dollars from revenue sharing and player wages are limited to xx% of revenues.
 
They have it in Rugby union, the problem comes when French clubs dont have one (last time i checked), and hence can entice the best players to play in france with bigger wages.

If you were to do it in football, it would have to be across Europe.
 
MrMarcello said:
NBA cap is a joke. It has many loopholes that allow teams to exceed the cap in order to keep "homegrown" players and veterans. NBA introduced a salary tax not to long ago.

NFL cap is the true example of a hard cap. Bonuses, incentives, etc., are all tied to the cap and if a player is cut, traded, or retires, past paid monies that were pro-rated can be accelerated, often tying up large chunks of money into current year and in some cases current year and next year.

MLB has a salary tax, which is a joke. Teams like Florida don't care about spending money so they just take the tax man's handout and bank it. Can't really complain about a business owner trying to make a profit.

I have no clue about the NHL these days. I know they have some type of cap, think it's similar to NBA.

If the Premiership introduce a salary cap you can forget a club ever winning Europe when continental clubs will gobble up all the high priced talents while Premiership clubs settle for second and third rate players. It would create parity in England, allowing other clubs to compete for top players within the country, meaning more clubs with realistic chances of winning the league.



And every club makes an annual profit. Not one single club is in debt or facing bankruptcy (administration for you English types), which drives club values sky high (think the average NFL club is worth around $700m). That is the one good thing about a league salary cap - clubs are gauranteed xx dollars from revenue sharing and player wages are limited to xx% of revenues.
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I would disagree they seem to have implemented a decent enough system in the NBA
 
Alex said:
I would disagree they seem to have implemented a decent enough system in the NBA
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Yet a guy has one good season in his expiring rookie contract then gets a max contract extension. Too many average players in the NBA making $5-15m per year.

The only good thing about the NBA is the rookie salary cap concept. NFL needs to get onboard. Parcells is rumored to be looking to trade the #1 pick, possibly to Dallas, to gain extra picks (possibly players too). It's been said that teams don't want a top 3 pick now days due to the excessive contract demands. This year's top pick will be a RB, OL, or DL... but who wants to pay that position $8-9m per year before the player proves himself? QBs get that dosh reluctantly, but no way do clubs want to fork out that kind of money for other positions.
 
GloryHunter07 said:
They have it in Rugby union, the problem comes when French clubs dont have one (last time i checked), and hence can entice the best players to play in france with bigger wages.

If you were to do it in football, it would have to be across Europe.
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A salary cap in football across Europe will be challenged in the European courts before you've had time to finish the word "cap"... :lol:
 
I'm not proposing a salary cap in europe
I was more questioning the salary cap in the A-league/NRL

interesting to see not too many people actually are against it!
 
Cal? said:
A salary cap in football across Europe will be challenged in the European courts before you've had time to finish the word "cap"... :lol:
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oh i know, it would never happen. Far too late for that, and its not exactly a perfect system anyway.
 
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