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"I think that we will make some changes," he said on MUTV.

Excellent! Unlike some of the folks here who wear rose-tinted glasses, Fergie is objective enough to shake the squad up if necessary.
 
Id rather wear Rose tinted glasses than womens under wear like you.
Do your new Gooner panties fit nicely?
 
I think Fergie himself needs to clear his head up, try to stop making stupid tactical decisions - Leaving RVN on the bench? you joking...
 
Originally posted by Candona:
<strong>I think Fergie himself needs to clear his head up, try to stop making stupid tactical decisions - Leaving RVN on the bench? you joking...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yep, I think you're right. I think we need an assistant manager that's not affraid to tell Fergie that he's wrong. We don't need a yes man, that would be no good. SAF has been the best manager in history, but he needs someone to bounce ideas off.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>Id rather wear Rose tinted glasses than womens under wear like you.
Do your new Gooner panties fit nicely?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Typical of you - resort to insults when you don't like what you read even if it's true.

Have you got new rose-tinted glasses yet after they shattered last night, ignoramus?

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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Typical of you - resort to insults when you don't like what you read even if it's true.
Have you got new rose-tinted glasses yet after they shattered last night, ignoramus?
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I dont wear glasses, does your Gooner's Bra fit nicely?
 
Originally posted by Murt:
<strong>Id rather wear Rose tinted glasses than womens under wear like you.
Do your new Gooner panties fit nicely?</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>"I think that we will make some changes," he said on MUTV.

Excellent! Unlike some of the folks here who wear rose-tinted glasses, Fergie is objective enough to shake the squad up if necessary.</strong><hr></blockquote>

But he already shook the squad up last summer and look at the result! I think he should tweak the squad a little. You have to be careful with too much buying otherwise you become another Chelsea. I thought that's wot happened to the Arsenal, but luckily Van B. & Jeffers were injured all season.
 
SAF knew there had to be changes after we lost to Bayern. :(
But unfortunately he concentrated he efforts giving us more menace going forward.
This year its very simple. :cool:
We have to fix the back four this summer.
End of story. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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I dont wear glasses, does your Gooner's Bra fit nicely?</strong><hr></blockquote>

How's your favourite Cowdenbeath defender coming along? Has fergie spooted him yet?

<img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>How's your favourite Cowdenbeath defender coming along? Has fergie spooted him yet?
<img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I doubt you'd take to him either way, he hasnt got a nice tan and wouldnt cost 20 mill.

Do you think "some changes" will be enough?

7 defenders etc would be just about right.
 
On Manchester United Radio after the match last night, he said that possibly some players had become complacent, although not the coaching staff...

I have a feeling it's not going to take us too long to find out which players he thinks have become complacent.
 
I look forward to seeing one strong centre back - one who frightens the hell out of everyone. Someone with a presence - someone like Peter Schmeichel!
 
Im sure he was talking about the 'dj' who chose to play DJ Otzi, which you might think is bad enough but to play the feckin England version <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> .
Seriously though he should have a word with Giggs who always talks himself up before big games and then erm does'nt produce the goods. As for a big strong centre back from the linited games John O'Shea has played he has really looked the part and Brown was solid last night aswell and with the realistic names going about the only one Id be for would be Thuram which int gunna happen, I can see him pursuing Lizarazu again though and maybe that Reizger guy and then have Brown an Neville as centre backs with O'Shea as cover.
The midfield should stay the same but get there act together, especially Giggs and then just buy a striker to have a qaurtet again, I have'nt seen much of Duff but everyone seems to reckon he's good, and he's not a 20 million pound player either so he won't be keeping Ole or Ruud out the team, if we don't get Duff then defintley go for Kanoute or Di Canio, both offer us something different and again won't be regulars but very good back up.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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I doubt you'd take to him either way, he hasnt got a nice tan and wouldnt cost 20 mill.

Do you think "some changes" will be enough?

7 defenders etc would be just about right.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nah, just two defenders will be good for a start

Though I certainly won't complain if there were more

Are you a Cowdenbeath defender begging to be spotted? ;)
 
Originally posted by MW16:
<strong>Im sure he was talking about the 'dj' who chose to play DJ Otzi, which you might think is bad enough but to play the feckin England version <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> .
Seriously though he should have a word with Giggs who always talks himself up before big games and then erm does'nt produce the goods. As for a big strong centre back from the linited games John O'Shea has played he has really looked the part and Brown was solid last night aswell and with the realistic names going about the only one Id be for would be Thuram which int gunna happen, I can see him pursuing Lizarazu again though and maybe that Reizger guy and then have Brown an Neville as centre backs with O'Shea as cover.
The midfield should stay the same but get there act together, especially Giggs and then just buy a striker to have a qaurtet again, I have'nt seen much of Duff but everyone seems to reckon he's good, and he's not a 20 million pound player either so he won't be keeping Ole or Ruud out the team, if we don't get Duff then defintley go for Kanoute or Di Canio, both offer us something different and again won't be regulars but very good back up.</strong><hr></blockquote>

O'Shea is not a big strong centre-back in the mould of Stam, he's tall but willowy

What we need is someone like Campbell who made us look like right mugs by playing well against us when Fergie could have easily signed him last summer
 
Originally posted by Panic Buyer:
<strong>"I think that we will make some changes," he said on MUTV.

Excellent! Unlike some of the folks here who wear rose-tinted glasses, Fergie is objective enough to shake the squad up if necessary.</strong><hr></blockquote>

But apparently he's interested in a rational approach, unlike the CM panic buyer style that some seem to endorse. ;)
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
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But apparently he's interested in a rational approach, unlike the CM panic buyer style that some seem to endorse. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Explain what is a "rational approach"
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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O'Shea is not a big strong centre-back in the mould of Stam, he's tall but willowy

What we need is someone like Campbell who made us look like right mugs by playing well against us when Fergie could have easily signed him last summer</strong><hr></blockquote>


But you gotta remember during June of 2001, many of these forum posters stated Campbell was shit and not United quality. That crow must taste good. Campbell is solid player and would have fared well with United.
 
Originally posted by MrMarcello:
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But you gotta remember during June of 2001, many of these forum posters stated Campbell was shit and not United quality. That crow must taste good. Campbell is solid player and would have fared well with United.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I was not one of those who said he was shit.

Yes, I am sure Campbell would have given us a much-needed boost in terms of a steely defence especially with the departure of Stam.

Fergie must not make the same mistake again - buying a few defenders must be his first priority now.
 
I would definately like to see some changes, but not mass changes as some have predicted; by that I mean one or two, not four of five. Although it is important we improve our squad, we need to keep the core of the team in good shape. I don't agree with those who think our back-four are useless. We have the best left-back in the Premiership, along with one of the most dependable and consistent right-backs in the League, while in Brown and O'Shea we have two potential stars - Brown going to the World Cup will help him no end: he just has maturing to do. What we need is an experianced CB who can offer stability and consistency (I wish we had Blanc five years ago) and will not succumb to lapses in concentration. If Ayala comes in and Blanc stays on, great. That would be the defence sorted imo. If Blanc does leave however, a player in the mould of Mexes or Hofland could come in. With a striker like Di Canio coming in, that would surely be our summer shopping done, and only at a cost of about 35-40m. Plus, we could recoup a healthy 10m from the sales of Yorke (sorry, Duff ain't coming) and our fringe players etc. Panic buying ain't the key. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
He could be talking about tactics and not players y'know. :cool:
 
For me ... it will have to be :

A Powerful and speedy CB
A versatile fullback who could play on both left/right
A new No.9 - not looking at any superstar .. Just someone who could give our team some additional dimension

and for scenarios where the rumours do "unfortunately" realised ( B & V leaving ) :

A GK
A versatile midfielder for both R & C
 
and for info. on my choices posted before in this forum :

Originally posted by Penny:
<strong>A Powerful and speedy CB</strong>
up for debate ... Other than Ayala I can't think of any better but if you ask me - I don't want to have non-EU players especially SAmerican 'cos once their Continental tournament started, it's a non-ending story ...

<strong>A versatile fullback who could play on both left/right</strong>
Finnan for only right side. .. and Heidresdam given no other visibility for now on any other one being "versatile" enough ..

<strong>A new No.9 - not looking at any superstar .. Just someone who could give our team some additional dimension</strong>
Said it many times .. forget abt Rivaldo or Ronaldo ... I will take Christie anytime instead ... If given a free choice to let my imagination run wild though - then I would like Vassel or Defoe ... for I think we need their pacey + twist&turn type of playing to increase our option up front ..


<strong>A GK</strong>
Hedman or Poom will be ok with me .. .Not going for Given 'cos for me that's real just wild dream

<strong>A versatile midfielder for both R & C</strong>
If V really go - I have only Van Bommel in mind and nobody else !

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Originally posted by lchk:
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I was not one of those who said he was shit.
Yes, I am sure Campbell would have given us a much-needed boost in terms of a steely defence especially with the departure of Stam.
Fergie must not make the same mistake again - buying a few defenders must be his first priority now.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What mistake?
Was it his fault that the worlds best keeper made a few fuch ups before xmas?
Was it his fault wes Brown's form was weak during the same period and was later out for 4 months?
Was it his fault Micky Silvestre was useless until Xmas?
was it his fault ronny Johnsen was out for most of the season?

Our defence has beeen great since Christmas, it was just a few fuch ups early on in the season that cost us the title.

When does your transfer to Arsenal go through? During the close season or what?

How many defenders would you like btw?
7
along with the goalkeepers, midfielders, attackers, trainers, coaches, physios, tea ladies etc you have demanded over the season?
 
Originally posted by MrMarcello:
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But you gotta remember during June of 2001, many of these forum posters stated Campbell was shit and not United quality. That crow must taste good. Campbell is solid player and would have fared well with United.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Thats very true..

But you didn't need him, cos you had OG...

Who is better... ;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Thats very true..

But you didn't need him, cos you had OG...

Who is better... ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

As you have seen by recent results, your defence leaks 3-4 goals when you actually venture to attack the opposition. So what's new?
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Originally posted by Marcus:
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As you have seen by recent results, your defence leaks 3-4 goals when you actually venture to attack the opposition. So what's new?
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Apart from when we play you at Anfield..

Then we just shit on you..

;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Apart from when we play you at Anfield..

Then we just shit on you..

;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Incorrect, you usually put 10 men behind the ball and pray that we don't score and that you might get a lucky goal.
 
Originally posted by AhmedDimwitson:
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Incorrect, you usually put 10 men behind the ball and pray that we don't score and that you might get a lucky goal.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah

Thats what happens isn't it?

We just pray that we get 2 or 3 lucky goals as we shit on you..

;)
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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Yeah

Thats what happens isn't it?

We just pray that we get 2 or 3 lucky goals as we shit on you..

;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry, what have Liverpool done this season to make you so cocky all of a sudden? You should have run away with the league by December and screwed up. Everyone wrote United off at the begining of the season, yet we clawed our way back and were in contention for the EC and League title.

You should be crying over how you managed that almighty blunder of a season. Did I mention that you were boring to watch as well? ... except when you were involved in that 4-2 thriller with Leverkusen of course.

;)
 
Originally posted by Marcus:
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Sorry, what have Liverpool done this season to make you so cocky all of a sudden? You should have run away with the league by December and screwed up. Everyone wrote United off at the begining of the season, yet we clawed our way back and were in contention for the EC and League title.

You should be crying over how you managed that almighty blunder of a season. Did I mention that you were boring to watch as well? ... except when you were involved in that 4-2 thriller with Leverkusen of course.

;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


Cocky? Just happy that we've continued to improve despite having a difficult season...

You keep on with this "should have run away with it" nonsense, but the fact of the matter is that the Arse were always in the hunt...and were always the team we feared, which proved to be with good sodding reason...

I am cocky when we play you tho as we always win...and shit on you at Anfield..

;)
 
Up until 2000 you hadn't beaten us for 5 years. If progress is ending up with no trophies of note the season after winning more trophies, then long may your progress continue.

You can't win the league with negative football, everytime you attempt anything else you get outclassed by what you would consider weaker opposition.
 
Originally posted by CheckOne:
<strong>Up until 2000 you hadn't beaten us for 5 years. If progress is ending up with no trophies of note the season after winning more trophies, then long may your progress continue.

You can't win the league with negative football, everytime you attempt anything else you get outclassed by what you would consider weaker opposition.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Apart from the weaker opposition that is yourselves at Anfield...when we shit on you..

Our league progress is there for all to see....you can never count on the cups for anything
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>I would definately like to see some changes, but not mass changes as some have predicted; by that I mean one or two, not four of five. Although it is important we improve our squad, we need to keep the core of the team in good shape. I don't agree with those who think our back-four are useless. We have the best left-back in the Premiership, along with one of the most dependable and consistent right-backs in the League, while in Brown and O'Shea we have two potential stars - Brown going to the World Cup will help him no end: he just has maturing to do. What we need is an experianced CB who can offer stability and consistency (I wish we had Blanc five years ago) and will not succumb to lapses in concentration. If Ayala comes in and Blanc stays on, great. That would be the defence sorted imo. If Blanc does leave however, a player in the mould of Mexes or Hofland could come in. With a striker like Di Canio coming in, that would surely be our summer shopping done, and only at a cost of about 35-40m. Plus, we could recoup a healthy 10m from the sales of Yorke (sorry, Duff ain't coming) and our fringe players etc. Panic buying ain't the key. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I'll re-post something I wrote in the Transfer forum recently.

Blanc - retire
Johnsen - free (there has been no talk of offering him a new contract, unlike blanc)
May - free
Irwin - retire
Fortune - sold as work permit not renewed
Yorke - sold
Raimond Van Der Gouw - retire
Rachubka - sold
Ronnie W - sold
Webber - sold to watford

Thats 10 players almost certain to go, 4 centre backs, one full back, 2 goalkeepers, one midfielder, and 2 strikers
And thats not including the maybes:
Barthez - sold
Phil - sold
Veron - probably not sold due to comments made by fergie, though he should be, if only for the money

Those almost certain to leave will rake in at most 15m, mostly from the youngsters, fortune and yorke, but will lower the wage bill dramatically. So to do any real buying, to replace these players, we'd have to sell a/some big money player(s). Obvious choice being Veron (or in my nightmares - Scholes).

If we're losing that many players from our squad, then obviously we're going to have to get in a lot more than 1 or 2 new players, or bring through a lot of youngsters. Looking at the positions, we definitely don't have 4 decent youth centre backs (maybe 2 at best with O'Shea and Tate), no good enough full back, no youth keepers good enough to play a first team game, and maybe only one striker good enough to play worthington cup games (nardiello). Clearly we need to restore our strength in depth - its not just about the first team although that could do with improving too. In my opinion our defensive problems haven't been down to the centre backs, but the full backs, both of which I would replace and understandably we have been linked with replacements, whether it be Lizarazu or Reiziger (not my choices mind).
 
Originally posted by pete_8:
<strong>Think of the word irrational then think on</strong><hr></blockquote>

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I agree.
A strong and reliable central defender will be critical important, someone like Kuko (?) of Bayern Munic and possibly, Ayala as many mentioned will do us right.
I can't see any chance that Stam will be back as long as AF is here.......
In the end, to bring in a more qualified and better quality stricker in support and also, in combination of the existing V+S striking partner will be also required and much expected to further stengthen our attacking form.
Forlan still looks inexperienced and not lethal enough,agree ?
Originally posted by lchk:
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I was not one of those who said he was shit.

Yes, I am sure Campbell would have given us a much-needed boost in terms of a steely defence especially with the departure of Stam.

Fergie must not make the same mistake again - buying a few defenders must be his first priority now.</strong><hr></blockquote>