Ruud calls for Kluivert for the umpteenth time and elaborates

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By ROSS GREGORY

GOAL machine Ruud van Nistelrooy believes that Manchester United would have the greatest strike partnership EVER if they can land Patrick Kluivert.


Van Nistelrooy knows his Dutch international team-mate Kluivert could be open to offers this summer if Barcelona try to slash his £4million salary.

And he reckons the rest of Europe would be at United's mercy with Kluivert playing alongside him.

Van Nistelrooy, 26, who hit 44 goals for the Premiership champions last season, said: "We could be the best scoring partnership in the world.

"We love working together and I would love it even more if we could practise together every day and play together at club level. We will be a fantastic partnership.

"Sometimes when Patrick and I play together it is just 'there' between us and that is the time you feel how special football can be for fans and players.

"I cherish those times when we just click in the middle of a game or a training session with Holland.

"We talk loads and loads about our partnership. We sit down and analyse where we want the ball, where we will be at any given moment in a game and what each of us expects from the other.

"That is what helps make a good partnership into a great partnership.

"And the reason that there are not many 'superstar' partnerships in the world of football is that not many players do that - not many add brains to instinct when they play together.

"I have already had one strike partner with whom it was 'love at first sight' - Luc Nilis. We played together at PSV before he went to Aston Villa and I came to United.

"It doesn't happen often so to have another one with Patrick is a great joy."

Kluivert, 26, has hit 36 goals in 64 games for Holland and averaged 25 a season since moving to the Nou Camp from AC Milan in 1998.

His contract runs until 2006 but a clause means he could quit for a cut-price £1.5m if hard-up Barca attempt to renegotiate his wages.

And SunSport exclusively revealed on Wednesday that Van Nistelrooy has already launched a one-man campaign to get his pal to join him at Old Trafford.

The Barca hitman admitted he gets constant phone calls in Spain and confessed: "If it had been down to Ruud, I'd have signed for United long ago."

The pair share the same birthday - July 1, 1976 - and have felt a bond since their first international together, a 2-1 victory over Germany just before Euro 2000.

Van Nistelrooy added: "United had the last super-partnership in world football when Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke were at their peak together.

"I do not think any team in the world has even come close to the partnership they enjoyed at United - not even Raul and Ronaldo at Real Madrid.

"But Patrick and I could because we are so compatible.

"In terms of Dutch goalscorers I rate Chelsea's Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, myself and Deportivo's Roy Makaay at the same sort of footballing level.

But Patrick is a much more complete player than any of us. He is the typical Dutch No10 - a creative player who makes goals and scores them.

"With United, I play much further up the pitch than I do with Holland so Patrick could play just behind me and set me up with goalscoring passes."

But Van Nistelrooy admits he has another motive behind his desire to team-up with Kluivert.

As well as adding to United's silverware collection it would boost Holland's chances of European Championship glory next summer.

He said: "In the national team, I don't have the main role as I do with United. I want to be an important player not only at United but at the national team too. I can do it only one way - by making decisions, being decisive, being important

"In the Dutch team I have to play with my mind much more than my heart but that takes work because I am an instinctive player - so is Patrick.

"But, given the chance to work together more, we would become more powerful as a partnership. We complement each other because we don't try to do the same things.

"In training we say to each other 'right, we will do this or that today'. Sometimes it is like practising 85 one-twos.

"But the difference between doing that in training and doing that in a game is a big jump - and we need to be together more often."
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<a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3-2003250314,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3-2003250314,00.html</a>

Will Fergie take the hint already? Personally I don't want him at United though...
 
Well I suppose Ruud has the right to make a few requests after what he's done for United since arriving. If it keeps him happy and makes our strike force stronger than I say go for it. Better than losing him to Barca, God forbid
 
I think Ruud should shut it, who United buy is not his business.

However, if he do have thoughts and preferences about players, FERGIE is the one he should tell, not some tabloids.
 
Originally posted by Kevin:
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Will Fergie take the hint already? Personally I don't want him at United though...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Who? Fergie? WUM.

;)
 
They weren't an almighty couple of strikers in Holland national team. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />

I've watched Kluivert a lot. He's very overrated. He looks brilliant in a short TV footage, but if you watch him the whole match, or the whole season... :(

He's one of the main factors of current Barcelona's decline. Of course, Ruud has the right to ask for his buddies to celebrate his birthday... ;)
 
Originally posted by MishkiN:
<strong>Better than losing him to Barca, God forbid</strong><hr></blockquote>

Trust me, there are more chances to lose him when abduced from a flying saucer than to Barça. You don't know the absolute havock and ruin that they are...

But I wouldn't discard Real. I've been pointing that possibility for a couple of months, but people around here seems to think that The Sun or the Mundo Deportivo are more confidable sources than me, and they're worried about this topic.

Well, a drunken hooker is more confidable than these tabloids... ;)
 
Originally posted by MishkiN:
<strong>Well I suppose Ruud has the right to make a few requests after what he's done for United since arriving. If it keeps him happy and makes our strike force stronger than I say go for it. Better than losing him to Barca, God forbid</strong><hr></blockquote>

So he'd quit a successful club for one not even in europe just so he can play with Kluivert? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

He'd love to play with him at club leve, he'll be delighted just to continue at United with no Kluivert, end of story.

The manager decides who he wants, not the players.
 
The Barca stories would have more 'credibility' if they didn't mention that Utd had agreed to sell Becks to Barca for only £20 mil!

A ridiculous story made worse by the supposed agreed transfer fee!

Then now Ruud! Why shud Ruud want to leave, especially from a club always playing in the UEFA Champions League & consistently winning its domestic league for a club even worse off than Liverpool in that they won't even be playing UEFA Cup football next season! :rolleyes:

( Apart from the fact that he loves Utd & will probably be with us throughout the best part of his career? )

ps - is Ruud's plea actually a plea that he prefers the 4-4-2 formaton?
 
The only way I can see Ruud leaving us for Barcelona is if they came in with a ridiculous offer that the board felt it couldn't refuse. But if he left I think it would be United's choice not Ruud's. Like everyone says, why would he leave to play for a club that probably won't even qualify for the UEFA Cup next season? Ruud strikes me as a player who, more than anything else, wants to win medals and he has a much better chance of doing that with us than with Barcelona.

I can't see Fergie letting him go either. With all this talk about Ronaldinho coming, it's pretty clear that Fergie's trying to find the perfect foil for Ruud and I think he's decided Ronaldinho's that player. So, why would he bring in Ronaldinho just to let Ruud go? He'd have to start from scratch again.

If we hadn't won the title this year and Real Madrid came in for him, I'd be a lot more worried. I still don't understand why Real Madrid would come in for him though when they have Ronaldo and Raul.
 
Ruud worships Kluivert.

He always has, and he always aspired to get to the same level Patrick is. (He got better, but that's another thing).

Go get him Fergie :cool:
 
Originally posted by kkcbl:
ps - is Ruud's plea actually a plea that he prefers the 4-4-3 formaton? <hr></blockquote>

We would probably win every match with this formation. (With 11 outfield players who could stop us) <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by Tomo:
<strong>am I the one who thinks Ruud wants Kluivert for the interest of Holland national team in 2004

he wants to build a perfect partnership with him first so they can go to Portugal well-prepared?</strong><hr></blockquote>


Say he does want him here for that reason... So what? We're the ones that will benefit in the long run!

Im not a massive Kluivert fan but the idea of Ruud playing with Kluivert at club and int. level, does leave me thinking that they could be amazing together...
 
Originally posted by Dervish:
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Say he does want him here for that reason... So what? We're the ones that will benefit in the long run!

Im not a massive Kluivert fan but the idea of Ruud playing with Kluivert at club and int. level, does leave me thinking that they could be amazing together...</strong><hr></blockquote>

yeah I guess so...

but still, Fergie's the one to decide who to buy, and who can bring out the best benefits for the club
 
In the 18 games they have played together in the Dutch national team, they have scored 13 goals between them. Hardly a mind blowing statistic that makes you think we must have Klutzvert at all costs.
 
Originally posted by Red15:
<strong> I still don't understand why Real Madrid would come in for him though when they have Ronaldo and Raul.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agreed, but it was also true last summer, when Real had Raul, Morientes and Portillo, and they needed to mend some lacks in midfield and defense.

And they signed Ronaldo...

I can't unserstand Real signing way, but you can make some little predictions.
 
I just don't think Ruud has Holland in mind more than United when he said he wanted PK as his strike partner. Anyone can tell of his passion for the club and how much he feel indebt to SAF. I just don't think any of us here are better qualified to judge which players are best for Utd any more than SAF himself, the scouts, and our own "World Class" players. If we here can post our opinion on the net for anyone to read, Ruud has every right to speak of his preference. I'm also certain his judement is much better than any of us. Besides, it's not that he wants some renown useless player such as Heskey or Jeffer. Kluivert is a good player who has been with 3 of the biggest clubs in the world. If he really was that bad he wouldn't have been first choice striker for Ajax, Milan, and Barca while playing there. I really have no doubt about his quality, infact I think Ruud is correct when he said PK is a more complete striker than him. PK can be a good partner for Ruud no doubt, but there may be better choice out there, may be SAF can decide. The only problem I have with PK is with his past. The 2 "incidents" he has had makes him a dubious choice.
 
Kluivert makes Yorke look like an angel with his off the pich antics,do we really want the shame of a killer playing for us??ask yourself that question.......Im sure SAF is taking this into consideration.Ruud is striker not a scout.
 
Many years ago player like Cantona had also made the similiar suggestion of trading in Zidane,but Fergie ignore it.Maybe Ruud is right that he and Kluivert will make a great partnership in Man Utd since he's so dying for it.Just hope that Ruud won't make us dissapointed after buy in Kluivert.
 
does he have a girl friend???
i reckon he's gay :D ..this is the second day that he make headlines asking kluiBird to come to OT..
 
Originally posted by shakiraa:
does he have a girl friend???
i reckon he's gay :D ..this is the second day that he make headlines asking kluiBird to come to OT..<hr></blockquote>

Ruuds all man!!he has a Dutch g/f but he's putting it about in Manchester too... ;)
 
Originally posted by shakiraa:
<strong>does he have a girl friend???
</strong><hr></blockquote>

By ROSS GREGORY

"I have already had one strike partner with whom it was 'love at first sight' - Luc Nilis. We played together at PSV before he went to Aston Villa and I came to United.

"It doesn't happen often so to have another one with Patrick is a great joy."
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He does have a girlfriend. I think this is one of those times where something got lost in the translation...especially with that quote above. :)
 
I wonder if it was love at first sight for Ruud when he got to OT and laid eyes on Chadwick for the first time.
 
Nowadays, Kluivert would be a (relatively) cheap investment, but also a risky investment.

By the way, spanish term for "investment" is "inversión", and may also mean "inverted likings".

Is Ruud claiming for Kluivert any kind of "inversión"? <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
 
What a load of nonsense - even the idea of Kluivert coming to Old Trafford. The man is talented but has wallowed in mediocrity for much of his time in Spain. He is only 26 but seems to have hit his peak already and the very good football he has been capable of at times in the past seems unable to be sustained.

I think Kluivert falls into the category of `Non hungry` - the kind of player Sir Alex would never buy as that kind of player is content to pick up inflated wages and go through the paces but never really lift their game and break through to the next level.

Kluivert IS talented but I don`t think he would make an impact at Old Trafford in the best way as he lacks desire. I am not blaming him for Barcelona`s lack of success in recent years but he certainly has done nothing to demonstrate hunger and drive to win.
 
Originally posted by Elizabeth:
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Ruuds all man!!he has a Dutch g/f but he's putting it about in Manchester too... ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

You preach it sister !

Ruud is way to burly to be gay, he was meant to entertain us lady´s, still having thoughts about the scenes at Tottenham when he took his shirt of that man is way too fit ;)
 
Kluivert is a bargain buy right now. Money wise it's a very good deal. But getting him may be a risk if his behavior and attitude contradict our system, which is quite a possibility. But I would think he's no more a risk than Ronaldinho. Ronny is more expensive and much more flashy. No doubt about the quality, but he stands a chance of being a flop even more so than PK. IMHO they are equally risky, but that's the way thing is when you bet expecting hugh pay off.
 
Originally posted by RioNkeanofan:
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You preach it sister !

Ruud is way to burly to be gay, he was meant to entertain us lady´s, still having thoughts about the scenes at Tottenham when he took his shirt of that man is way too fit ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

A beutiful girlfriend once told me, when I asked her how come she was still unattached, that the good-looking guys or those she was interested in, were either gay or attched!

BTW, you should see some of those porn movies - the best-looking & most muscular hunks are all gays & you girls are just left with fantasising over the Ron Jeremies of this world! ;)
 
This talk of Kluivert, regardless of how good a player he is or what a good/bad boy image he has, comes to nought if we ask the question as to how Fergie will fit him into a 4-4-1-1 formation!
 
Ruud fits in because he is humble-Kluivert is a big-head.Im telling you again Dwight Yorke part two.Does his talent outweigh the problems he will cause?No way on this earth.
Ruud is God-fearing-no way he'd go against nature.He has an amazing body and the most beautiful eyes(he's not the worst player we have ever had at O/T either ;) )
 
Originally posted by kkcbl:
<strong>This talk of Kluivert, regardless of how good a player he is or what a good/bad boy image he has, comes to nought if we ask the question as to how Fergie will fit him into a 4-4-1-1 formation!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Finally we agree on something. ;)
 
I don't know why people think Kluivert will really cost 1.5m. He won't. Thats the fee he'll be released for if Barcelona ask to lower his wages.

So if they are smart, they won't ask him that - just sell him, for a larger fee.
 
I value Ruud's opinion but ultimately these decisions have to be left to SAF and Kenyon. Recall that Seba was lobbying that we buy his mate/countryman Santiago Solari last year as well.
 
Originally posted by kkcbl:
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A beutiful girlfriend once told me, when I asked her how come she was still unattached, that the good-looking guys or those she was interested in, were either gay or attched!

BTW, you should see some of those porn movies - the best-looking & most muscular hunks are all gays & you girls are just left with fantasising over the Ron Jeremies of this world! ;) </strong>

<hr></blockquote>

That´s rather horrible actually ;)

Ruud also has the most kissible lips out there, yumster :D