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Isn't that pretty much by design? If I'm not mistaken Germany have been very limited when it comes to what they can and can't have, the trade-off being that the US were supposed to "protect" them.
Pretty certain west germnay had a lot more during the cold war.
 
Isn't that pretty much by design? If I'm not mistaken Germany have been very limited when it comes to what they can and can't have, the trade-off being that the US were supposed to "protect" them.

That doesn't mean Germany should make such a mess with their own armed forces. As someone pointed out earlier, the Japanese Self-Defense Forces seem to be better equipped and better prepared for fighting. The only issue that Japan has is a lack of appetite for serving in the SDF unless the country is attacked or under serious threat of an attack.
 
That being said, what is Russia doing with their own regulars? I thought they had over 1 million active personnel.
That includes the current bunch of conscripts that are drafted twice per year (for 1 year) — between 250 & 300 thousands. Not sure how they're using that 1 million though to be honest.
 
That doesn't mean Germany should make such a mess with their own armed forces. As someone pointed out earlier, the Japanese Self-Defense Forces seem to be better equipped and better prepared for fighting. The only issue that Japan has is a lack of appetite for serving in the SDF unless the country is attacked or under serious threat of an attack.

Out of curiosity what mess are you talking about and what makes you think that Japan are better prepared for fighting?
 
That's not what it's for but it is an organisation designed to counter Russia, and Putin does have a point that Nato has expanded Eastwards since its inception. This war is his version only he's using tanks instead of a membership agreement.

Or another way to put that is self-determining nations have decided it is in their interest to be aligned with NATO rather than Putin. I understand it's not as simple as that but I keep hearing that NATO expanded to the east as if those former Soviet Union colonies determine their own interests in agreeing to join.
 
Again, being in millitary does not mean you are only combat staff. There are numerous support positions in a modern army, and they are on the same payroll.

With 1 million active personnel, making it the 5th biggest number as such in the world, it is still surprising that they would send conscripts instead of only their regulars. Unless the war drags on and on, reversists/conscripts are usually kept at home.
 
Isn't that pretty much by design? If I'm not mistaken Germany have been very limited when it comes to what they can and can't have, the trade-off being that the US were supposed to "protect" them.

Nah. There are some restrictions like no nukes and limits to number of soldiers in the 2+4 treaty. But we have about half the number of soldiers allowed and the problems are largely related to equipment and supplies. It's just negligence.
 
With 1 million active personnel, making it the 5th biggest number as such in the world, it is still surprising that they would send conscripts instead of only their regulars. Unless the war drags on and on, reversists/conscripts are usually kept at home.
I agree that it is a fair bit odd.
 
Again, being in millitary does not mean you are only combat staff. There are numerous support positions in a modern army, and they are on the same payroll.
I think (going off wiki, so feel free to correct me if you know better) that Russia has like 1,9 million of military personnel, including 1 million of active combatants (the rest being those support positions, administrators etc.). It is wiki though, so it may be wrong.
 
Or another way to put that is self-determining nations have decided it is in their interest to be aligned with NATO rather than Putin. I understand it's not as simple as that but I keep hearing that NATO expanded to the east as if those former Soviet Union colonies determine their own interests in agreeing to join.

It would be naive. NATO is a closed club and the eastern nations we are talking about are with all due respect militarily irrelevant. The leading NATO nations are without a doubt using them against Russia.
 
With 1 million active personnel, making it the 5th biggest number as such in the world, it is still surprising that they would send conscripts instead of only their regulars. Unless the war drags on and on, reversists/conscripts are usually kept at home.

We're seeing the conscripts more because they're more likely to be captured I expect. Doesn't mean there are not regulars and SOF in there.
 
Nah. There are some restrictions like no nukes and limits to number of soldiers in the 2+4 treaty. But we have about half the number of soldiers allowed and the problems are largely related to equipment and supplies. It's just negligence.
And the delusions of a significant part of the population that if Germany doesn't start it there won't be another war involving it.
 
Question, when saddam hussein invaded Kuwait, the USA/UK went in to help kuwait. Whats different now? Is NATO and western europe really going to sit back and watch a eurppean country be butchered and destroyed. Surely the lessons of 80 years ago are still relevant?

An all out war between NATO and Russia very likely results in the world ending in a nuclear fire.
 
I think (going off wiki, so feel free to correct me if you know better) that Russia has like 1,9 million of military personnel, including 1 million of active combatants (the rest being those support positions, administrators etc.). It is wiki though, so it may be wrong.

If I'm not mistaken it's around 1.5m personnel and between 900k-1m troops.
 
It would be naive. NATO is a closed club and the eastern nations we are talking about are with all due respect militarily irrelevant. The leading NATO nations are without a doubt using them against Russia.

I'm not saying otherwise. Russia has legitimate beef with NATO, and it's clear to understand they don't want NATO parked on their doorstep, but those nations are still self-determining nations, unless we are claiming NATO forced them to sign up at gunpoint.
 
Nah. There are some restrictions like no nukes and limits to number of soldiers in the 2+4 treaty. But we have about half the number of soldiers allowed and the problems are largely related to equipment and supplies. It's just negligence.

Thanks.
 
They were but that's just a common thing rather than any particular readiness for this invasion.

I was morbidly thinking who the first country Russia would try nuke if they wanted to send a message. It would probably be the UK wouldn't it.
In fairness you sent Liz Truss first
 
It honestly pissed me off to no end that Russia is ruled by this absolutely sole stain.

By all accounts, they should be a nation to be marvelled at, given their resources, size and rich history. This arsehole is like the lowest of glass ceilings you will ever see on a nation.

Even despite Putin's cabal being in charge, they're still a superpower but there's so much more there...
 
Out of curiosity what mess are you talking about and what makes you think that Japan are better prepared for fighting?
Did you not read about Germans everywhere complaining about the state of affairs in their army? They keep on rambling about how their military equipment (like helicopters) is left in a really poor state.

As for Japan, feedback from Western armies training with the SDF keeps praising the Japanese. Furthermore, massive investments have been made by Japan to improve the JSDF since the last decade, either that's through new hardware or more joint training with Western armies. I have been following a lot closer on the evolution of the JSDF since the Senkaku Islands dispute began.
 
Every time Biden, or Wallace, or another European leader comes out and categorically states "We will not be sending troops to Ukraine", it just sends a big green light signal to Putin. Far better to just say nothing and leave it ambiguous. All you are doing by stating that is encouraging Putin, and making the Ukrainians see that we just dont care that much.
 
Shit :(
Somehow I doubt that it's going to change Putin's mind but Russia's going to be in such big shit :(

That is why I was of the opinion that tough sanctions should've been imposed straight away. No messing around. Go all in, and then negotiate steps back if necessary.

But you are probably right, unfortunately, dark days ahead. Putin tried to reassure the oligarchs yesterday when he said that the state will give them more freedom. Meaning more burden on ordinary people.
 
Did you not read about Germans everywhere complaining about the state of affairs in their army? They keep on rambling about how their military equipment (like helicopters) is left in a really poor state.

As for Japan, feedback from Western armies training with the SDF keeps praising the Japanese. Furthermore, massive investments have been made by Japan to improve the JSDF since the last decade, either that's through new hardware or more joint training with Western armies. I have been following a lot closer on the evolution of the JSDF since the Senkaku Islands dispute began.

It is nice to see Japan waking up to the issues on their door step. Like you I'm impressed by the shift in the past decade from them.
 

I know it’s almost meme level joking about this being enough to end the war but these sorts of things are going to add up to the Russian public over time. No Eurovision, no Grand Prix, no Champions League, the list is going to go on and on and over time the public is going to begin to massively resent being cut off from the rest of the world.
 
I know it’s almost meme level joking about this being enough to end the war but these sorts of things are going to add up to the Russian public over time. No Eurovision, no Grand Prix, no Champions League, the list is going to go on and on and over time the public is going to begin to massively resent being cut off from the rest of the world.

Yeah I was thinking this. They are not gonna to have a massive impact economically or physically or anything but everybody needs to show that they want absolutely nothing to do with Russia in any form.