Can we openly say it? I will: Noah Chomsky is a cnut.
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Another person that I used to look up to has turned into an arse 
Looks like Russia has actually been able to hit something of military value for once. Rumours about the train station has been hit with a numbre of KH-101 missiles. Looks like a Ukrainian ammo dump from the pictures.
The guy is 90 something, so lets cut him a break. The likes of Tucker Carlson, Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald et al., do however know what they're doing.
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Do you have a link to the article?
Noam Chomsky: Russia is fighting more humanely than the US did in Iraq
https://archive.ph/2MTQN (in case it's behind a paywall)
Important point: This is someone else relating an interview he had with Chomsky interspersed with his own commentary. It's not a Chomsky authored work.
Cheers. Plenty to disagree with Chomsky there, especially regarding Ukraine's own agency and the future of occupied territories.
He has a point about the US in Iraq though, it was much more brutal than what we've seen in Ukraine so far. This is not a compliment to the russians, they don't do the same because they probably don't have the capacity to do so.
I finally went through all of that rambling just to make sure I did not miss anything.
First of all, this pretty rich for him to lay a ton at the feet of the US when he never said anything after he sided with genocide deniers regarding the Cambodian, Bosnian and Rwandan genocides.
Second, the article goes by raw numbers of civilian casualties in Iraq without considering a major factor: insurgents and guerillas fighting back US forces with little to no disregard for collateral casualties. If the Ukrainian forces showed disregard for their own civilians in the same way that Al Qaeda or ISIS did, the raw casualty numbers would be a hell lot higher. Thank God that Ukrainian forces have made and still make colossal efforts in taking as many civilians to safety as possible. Here is the part from the article that tells the tale about civilian casualties in Iraq:
Third, his claim about the US and the UK " smashing Baghdad to pieces"... we can blame the Coalition forces for not doing better to maintain a form of order after Baghdad fell, but civil disorder (including the looting of public and government buildings) and drastically increased crime came from between Iraqis themselves. I don't remember US nor British forces turning a blatantly blind eye to murder and rape of civilians on the ground although plenty of blame can be dished about some of the weapons used. Some of the later battles against insurgents in urban areas like Fallujah were a total mess; it goes straight to the aforementioned quote.
Fourth, dissing Ukraine the way Chomsky did goes well in line with what Chomsly already said about the other genocides that he denied.
Fifth and not the least, the way Chomsky tackled the question regarding China vs. Taiwan is farcical. It's the same as turning a totally blind eye to Xi Jinping and his Wolf Warriors' behavior from the last decade or so. If China was that good at diplomacy and at reassuring their neighbors, why would Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and Australia strenghten their geopolitical ties with the US? What happened in Hong Kong in 2019-2020 should be plenty for democracy lovers to be worried about China's actions.
First of all, this pretty rich for him to lay a ton at the feet of the US when he never said anything after he sided with genocide deniers regarding the Cambodian, Bosnian and Rwandan genocides.
Second, the article goes by raw numbers of civilian casualties in Iraq without considering a major factor: insurgents and guerillas fighting back US forces with little to no disregard for collateral casualties. If the Ukrainian forces showed disregard for their own civilians in the same way that Al Qaeda or ISIS did, the raw casualty numbers would be a hell lot higher. Thank God that Ukrainian forces have made and still make colossal efforts in taking as many civilians to safety as possible. Here is the part from the article that tells the tale about civilian casualties in Iraq:
Third, his claim about the US and the UK " smashing Baghdad to pieces"... we can blame the Coalition forces for not doing better to maintain a form of order after Baghdad fell, but civil disorder (including the looting of public and government buildings) and drastically increased crime came from between Iraqis themselves. I don't remember US nor British forces turning a blatantly blind eye to murder and rape of civilians on the ground although plenty of blame can be dished about some of the weapons used. Some of the later battles against insurgents in urban areas like Fallujah were a total mess; it goes straight to the aforementioned quote.
Fourth, dissing Ukraine the way Chomsky did goes well in line with what Chomsly already said about the other genocides that he denied.
Fifth and not the least, the way Chomsky tackled the question regarding China vs. Taiwan is farcical. It's the same as turning a totally blind eye to Xi Jinping and his Wolf Warriors' behavior from the last decade or so. If China was that good at diplomacy and at reassuring their neighbors, why would Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and Australia strenghten their geopolitical ties with the US? What happened in Hong Kong in 2019-2020 should be plenty for democracy lovers to be worried about China's actions.
I finally went through all of that rambling just to make sure I did not miss anything.
First of all, this pretty rich for him to lay a ton at the feet of the US when he never said anything after he sided with genocide deniers regarding the Cambodian, Bosnian and Rwandan genocides.
Second, the article goes by raw numbers of civilian casualties in Iraq without considering a major factor: insurgents and guerillas fighting back US forces with little to no disregard for collateral casualties. If the Ukrainian forces showed disregard for their own civilians in the same way that Al Qaeda or ISIS did, the raw casualty numbers would be a hell lot higher. Thank God that Ukrainian forces have made and still make colossal efforts in taking as many civilians to safety as possible. Here is the part from the article that tells the tale about civilian casualties in Iraq:
Third, his claim about the US and the UK " smashing Baghdad to pieces"... we can blame the Coalition forces for not doing better to maintain a form of order after Baghdad fell, but civil disorder (including the looting of public and government buildings) and drastically increased crime came from between Iraqis themselves. I don't remember US nor British forces turning a blatantly blind eye to murder and rape of civilians on the ground although plenty of blame can be dished about some of the weapons used. Some of the later battles against insurgents in urban areas like Fallujah were a total mess; it goes straight to the aforementioned quote.
Fourth, dissing Ukraine the way Chomsky did goes well in line with what Chomsly already said about the other genocides that he denied.
Fifth and not the least, the way Chomsky tackled the question regarding China vs. Taiwan is farcical. It's the same as turning a totally blind eye to Xi Jinping and his Wolf Warriors' behavior from the last decade or so. If China was that good at diplomacy and at reassuring their neighbors, why would Japan, South Korea, the Phillipines and Australia strenghten their geopolitical ties with the US? What happened in Hong Kong in 2019-2020 should be plenty for democracy lovers to be worried about China's actions.
The invasion of ukraine is russias fault. The invasion of iraq is US fault. Whatever happens/ed is entirely their fault, even if the side they are fighting/fought in a way or another, if they didnt started would never caused all these civilian death and i assure you that US had the same legitimate reasons than russia to invade iraq so comparisons are completely justified and destruction numbers are justified to be compared, abu grahib and guantamo still are there too and what we dont know also
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Wagner boss threatens Bakhmut withdrawal unless his forces get more munitions
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/30/world/wagner-head-threatens-withdrawal-bakhmut-intl/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/30/world/wagner-head-threatens-withdrawal-bakhmut-intl/index.html
Ah yes, 6th time’s the charm for the Jacobites. Revenge for Culloden at last.
Hasnt his thing always been about saying the US is hypocritical because x,y and z and siding with whoever is anti-american?
So the insurgents and terrorists had like no agency and therefore no responsibility for their own actions? Its a bit like saying the syrian civil war casualties lie on the feet of the people protesting for democracy and not Assad and Isis. Because if they didnt demand democracy there would be no civil war.
Russians will celebrate this as a win, while attacking this city without any strategic value for more than a year and losing 10 times more men. Ukraine has the most favorable k/d ratio of all fronts in the city and its surroundings. They had huge losses there too of course, but in no relation to Russian losses. Wagner had at some point around 50k men, I'm pretty sure they are running on fumes now. Just look at Progozhin, who cries daily about all kinds of problems:
I'm pretty sure that Wagner used most of its strength to take Soledar and Bakhmut and they could easily lose it again during the counter offensive. I doubt they will be able to set up big defensive lines in a destroyed city.
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No secondary explosions, it’s just fuel burning. Nothing of military value has been hit, but Russians needed something to show on their Zombie TV:
Think It depends on what you mean by Brutal? I.e from a warcrime perspective I think Russia has likely surpassed the West in Iraq. Massrape/Torture as a strategy/ unleashing 50000 prisoners on Ukraine. Poorly trained/equiped troops then resorting to human waves/trench warfare.
Not that I'm naive, without doubt 1000s of war crimes committed by the West in Iraq, I was against it but I don't think the level of savagery the Russians have displayed was close. Genocide is happening in Ukraine for instance and it is encouraged from the highest of levels.
War crimes are rewarded, not punished.
Not sure if it's correlated with Chomsky but the amount of 'far left f*cknuggets' that seem to be in full support of the Russian invasion because it's against Nato/America and many of these are Americans.. just boggles the brain. Initially I thought it was just bots but some of the profiles have a lot of normal stuff and then anything about Ukraine is full whataboutism on the West, while justifying the Russian genocide. Scum of the earth imo.
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They'll send a burner
ZA is on the verge of an economic collapse, so they can't afford to oppose the western world. They will behave the same as Turkey does. Appease both sides just enough, so they can make the most profit out of it.
From "We take Kiev in 3 days" to "We need to evacuate our families from Crimea".
@Stactix does using banned nuclear weapons fall under war crimes? https://apjjf.org/-Christian-Scherrer/2086/article.html
There is no treaty or UN Security Council or General Assembly resolution banning the use of depleted uranium rounds.
Depleted uranium is not a nuclear weapon either.
If you refer terrorist to the US that was in foreign soil terrorizing the whole country with lies and excuses of unexistant WOMD that was corroborated by neutral parties like the UN, yes, they had an agency....i never understood calling terrorist who were fighting in their own country against and invader that brought terror to your own country. We can discuss the idiology of them and we will most likely agree how we espise them, but i can guarantee that without the US invasion they would not cause the car bombs and the attacks on the population. Every country needs their own pace to reach a degree of democracy and human rights but with the west meddling since the 70s, it is not possible. Afghanistan could (maybe not) be a more advanced society (surely better economically) than in 2001 and now probably is behind. Other countries that had not been invaded in middle east are better off and they are advancing, sure slowly, to a better rights country. Also, i dont think that US had many qualms when the afghans were allies and heroes when they were fighting the soviets. Someone might correct me but probably they were using similar tactics
And yes, i repeat, US directly and indirectly is the responsible of what happened there. As russia is the responsible of what is happening in Ukraine. And if ukraine would attack civilians as collateral it would raise eyebrows, but i assure you that some would justify it and probably lots would blame indirectly the russians for starting the conflict and rightly so. If russians would not start the war, nothing war relating would never happened
The faster we understand that there are not good dominaotr powers the better. US is our asshole so we will support him for our own benefit and way of life but is not by any means better than any other superpower that had exist and will exist
can you enlighten us on why the fall out from iraq, and the use of depleted uranium is considered worse than the fatalities in hiroshima?
DU isn't a nuclear weapon.
It's ridiculous to claim that.
it’s a well known fact. and these numbers are underreported as the US tried to suppress the actual numbers and made it harder to do a thorough investigation.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...allujah-worse-than-hiroshima-2034065.html?amp
I mean…..it is a byproduct of the enriched uranium used to power nuclear reactors. the effects of which are widely well known to cause similar long term damage in no way different to the victims of hiroshima.
How did you arrive to the conclusion that it was the DU ordnance causing this? You are aware that there are other cancerogenics apart from radionuclides, right ? They dropped phosphorus and probably a ton of other shit on the city.
there have been reports that link the growth defects in newly born to the radiation caused due to the use of depleted uranium.
https://theintercept.com/2019/11/25/iraq-children-birth-defects-military/
Interesting, that China also voted "yes". Normally they stay neutral.
So anyway, I guess this is the month where we'll see the Ukrainian offensive starting to take shape?
You're not wrong there, but the use of DU rounds is a legitimate battlefield tactic for a key reason. Wouldn't bother me at all if they were declared verboten through a treaty, etc.