Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

M16Red said:
I think its about money.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-shale-ukraine-idUSBRE90N0N620130124

Ukraine has large reserves of gas and oil around the Donbas, not to mention the pipelines running through it.

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That's what makes this even worse for that cnut - he's really fecked it because Europe has moved away from there number one product.

He's been siphoning the money from the sales for years into his pals pockets, just a hope that the Russian people will wake up before Poland steps in because the hatred towards the Russians is still very much alive.

I was in Czech Republic two weeks ago with two poles, two slovaks and a few chechnyans and a yank - but he doesn't count. But they were all like "its coming, we've had enough of them" they were telling me story's they've heard from Ukrainians that frankly were evil and sick.
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There's obviously a material and financial aspect to empire building, but at the end of the day, this is is about neo-imperliaism - taking the land of a neighboring nation and making it apart of you, which in the process galvanizes the Russian identity over a prominent former Soviet state.
 
Part 2 of the second video of the trench guarding the T-shaped tree line. It's probably one of the best documented positions of this war.
 
Ragnar123 said:
Part 2 of the second video of the trench guarding the T-shaped tree line. It's probably one of the best documented positions of this war.
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Christ... I suppose that's one way to make safe a trench before risking infantry. Brutal.
 
Russia will strengthen their military in the north as a response, they say?

They are desperate enough as it is in their "special operation", so sounds like a bunch of nonsense, they are not going to commit seriously to this.
 
For all the intrigue around who bombed the pipeline, some Western officials are not so eager to find out.

At gatherings of European and NATO policymakers, officials have settled into a rhythm, said one senior European diplomat: “Don’t talk about Nord Stream.” Leaders see little benefit from digging too deeply and finding an uncomfortable answer, the diplomat said, echoing sentiments of several peers in other countries who said they would rather not have to deal with the possibility that Ukraine or allies were involved.

“It’s like a corpse at a family gathering,” the European diplomat said, reaching for a grim analogy. Everyone can see there’s a body lying there, but pretends things are normal. “It’s better not to know.”
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McGrathsipan said:
I've seen lots of video from what appears to be a barren area in the middle of nowhere

What's so important there ?
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Plug these coordinates into Google maps… 48.878998, 38.218075

It’s a tree line that runs parallel to a road near Siversk that runs from Lysychansk (17 miles away) to Bakhmut (23 miles away)

It’s where the front line is…

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They joined even without Sweden in the end. Now we need to wait until Erdogan gets his money, so Sweden can join too.
In any case, Putin is still the best salesman for Nato. Thanks to him and his actions, Nato is getting stronger and stronger.
 
Ragnar123 said:
They joined even without Sweden in the end. Now we need to wait until Erdogan gets his money, so Sweden can join too.
In any case, Putin is still the best salesman for Nato. Thanks to him and his actions, Nato is getting stronger and stronger.
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I imagine the Sweden application will wait until after the Turkish elections.
 
Predictable that Finland and Sweden would join NATO. Even Putin knew this, and didn’t care as he doesn’t consider NATO a military threat.
 
Ragnar123 said:
They joined even without Sweden in the end. Now we need to wait until Erdogan gets his money, so Sweden can join too.
In any case, Putin is still the best salesman for Nato. Thanks to him and his actions, Nato is getting stronger and stronger.
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The Turkish election and Swedens new terrorist law that makes it illeagal to be a member of terrorist organizations are the major holdups, both of these will be resolved by June so I expect them to get accepted fairly quickly after that.
 
Thanks to modern night vision, it's probably even easier to hit targets at night than during the day. The darkness is no longer your friend. Especially in the second video the russians glow like fireflies for drone operators.


 
Ragnar123 said:
Thanks to modern night vision, it's probably even easier to hit targets at night than during the day. The darkness is no longer your friend. Especially in the second video the russians glow like fireflies for drone operators.
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Imagine running around in pitch black and hearing a sniper shooting at you and your mates.
 
Ragnar123 said:
Thanks to modern night vision, it's probably even easier to hit targets at night than during the day. The darkness is no longer your friend. Especially in the second video the russians glow like fireflies for drone operators.


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Feck me. All this war porn is so unbelievably crass. Why do they need to add a naff electronica soundtrack to footage of people dying? Grim.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Feck me. All this war porn is so unbelievably crass. Why do they need to add a naff electronica soundtrack to footage of people dying? Grim.
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Its probably builds morale internally among the Ukrainian troops and across a decent swath of domestic Ukrainians. Its obviously well over the top for most outside observers.
 
Vitro said:
Predictable that Finland and Sweden would join NATO. Even Putin knew this, and didn’t care as he doesn’t consider NATO a military threat.
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He obviously does since he invaded Ukraine because he didn't want them joining NATO, thereby placing them in a former Soviet, largely Russian speaking state with a massive border with Russia.
 
Rajma said:
Same Putin that apparently visited Mariupol and drove around at night? :lol: Sure.
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What do we think that’s about?

  1. Paranoia that someone will assassinate him?
  2. He’s got some long term illness which means his immune system is weak and he’s paranoid of catching COVID or similar.
  3. It’s always one of his many doubles and they want to avoid people getting too close and noticing the differences.
 
Pexbo said:
What do we think that’s about?

  1. Paranoia that someone will assassinate him?
  2. He’s got some long term illness which means his immune system is weak and he’s paranoid of catching COVID or similar.
  3. It’s always one of his many doubles and they want to avoid people getting too close and noticing the differences.
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I would say it’s a mix between 1 & 2. as he locked himself up in a bunker from the beginning of the pandemic.
 
Ragnar123 said:
Pretty sure it's both. Some doubles have masks, some plastic surgery.
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That video does look a bit suspect to be fair. But the idea that he has people who've had extensive plastic surgery to look like him still seems a bit far fetched though. Granted it is strange that in Moscow you can't get within 10-20 metres of him but when he's out and about he's happy to mingle with crowds.

 
The K-2 battalion released a new video with commentary and explanation of their attack on the famous T-shaped position. Turn on subtitles. Absolutely amazing production from start to finish. Better than most war documentaries.


They even found a prisoner the next day after 20 hours and interviewed him. Surreal.
 
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Xi doesn't care either way about this war, so these kind of meetings are meaningless.

He loves getting energy on a discount from Russia though.
 
China as usual extracting the most from any useful idiot throwing themselves into their way, be it Russia, France, the EU, African states, BRICS. I wonder what’s going to happen when they convert all these resources into some direct threat and how the useful idiots will respond… maybe Xi prefers the slow but steady strangling of a python, so we are all undergoing China’s finlandisation without realising at all.
 
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