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Utter incompetence...


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A €100 drone lands on a ~€300m plane after a long and slow flight in enemy territory without any problems. Just take some explosives with you next time.

Remove the limiters to what weapons the West sells to Taiwan. They've been waiting for a while to be allowed to upgrade their air force. Tell the Chinese that the F-35 and Eurofighters are on the table for Taiwan if Russia receives weapons from China.

Exactly. Taiwan is rich and can afford a big investment in military because of their semiconductor industry. Just tell Xi that Taiwan gets all the new shiny toys if we see one chinese weapon in Ukraine. People like Putin and Xi only understand real threats. Every appeasement policy is seen as weakness by them.
 
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Utter incompetence...


:lol: I remember we laughed when they put the defensive missile systems on the rooftops in Moscow but now it makes sense. Most likely you could easily fly past 500km of Russia's land straight to Moscow if you have the capability...
 
:lol: :lol:

A €100 drone lands on a ~€300m plane after a long and slow flight in enemy territory without any problems. Just take some explosives with you next time.



Exactly. Taiwan is rich and can afford a big investment in military because of their semiconductor industry. Just tell Xi that Taiwan gets all the new shiny toys if we see one chinese weapon in Ukraine. People like Putin and Xi only understand real threats. Every appeasement policy is seen as weakness by them.
That's easier to say than actually do. How quickly can all this equipment be built?
 
Take this with a grain of salt, but apparently there were explosions in Kolomna (Oblast Moscow!):
https://m.dzen.ru/news/story/Vozle_...031b773edcdc569138d5f2a2d8a7566c?issue_tld=ru


Two days ago it was reported that a Ukrainian drone crashed nearby, so maybe now another one hit its target.

And now on to speculation what could have been the possible target: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KB_Mashinostroyeniya

If this should be confirmed it simply means that the Kremlin is now in striking range for Ukrainian drones.

My, well, not friend but an acquaintance, I guess, who lives in Kolomna, also heard it.
Interesting, is this the beginning of a new stage of this war?
 
Apparently that is exactly what they did

yeah seems like it. Here is another video, apparently this time from a suicide drone. We can see much more snow now, so it was filmed on different days. Maybe the first drone was used to locate the plane and then the other one carried explosives later.

 
yeah seems like it. Here is another video, apparently this time from a suicide drone. We can see much more snow now, so it was filmed on different days. Maybe the first drone was used to locate the plane and then the other one carried explosives later.


Some were stating that the first drone was used to lock GPS coordinates on the plane / airfield in the post I first made.
 
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A €100 drone lands on a ~€300m plane after a long and slow flight in enemy territory without any problems. Just take some explosives with you next time.



Exactly. Taiwan is rich and can afford a big investment in military because of their semiconductor industry. Just tell Xi that Taiwan gets all the new shiny toys if we see one chinese weapon in Ukraine. People like Putin and Xi only understand real threats. Every appeasement policy is seen as weakness by them.

Do that and youll see a F-35 replica low cost in the chinese airforce in a few years. Sometimes we forget that not all taiwan is anti china
 
:wenger: :wenger: :lol: :lol: Lavrov just keeps on giving. Soon he will demand the Nobel Peace Prize for Russia.

 
:wenger: :wenger: :lol: :lol: Lavrov just keeps on giving. Soon he will demand the Nobel Peace Prize for Russia.



I think at this late stage, its the so called diplomatic ones like Lavrov and Medvedev who have the most to prove to Putin to ensure he doesn't freeze them out, which is why we're seeing such bizarre comments from both.
 
I think at this late stage, its the so called diplomatic ones like Lavrov and Medvedev who have the most to prove to Putin to ensure he doesn't freeze them out, which is why we're seeing such bizarre comments from both.

Yeah he is definetly not insane and probably just fears open windows. The crazier his image is in the west, the safer he is in Russia. It's still bizarre as hell. He probably had only one thought after hearing the audience laughing. "If I smile, I'm dead. Must not smile"
 
One year in, and I have two newbie questions.

How does Russia have this much equipment?

Most European armies have nowhere near this amount. But does the US have a similar stockpile of military equipment and materiel?
 
One year in, and I have two newbie questions.

How does Russia have this much equipment?

Most European armies have nowhere near this amount. But does the US have a similar stockpile of military equipment and materiel?

Because they were an incredibly militarized nation from back in the Soviet days and continued building on that during Putin's time, which would explain the random ages of their weapons and logistics (shells from the cold war etc)
 
Because they were an incredibly militarized nation from back in the Soviet days and continued building on that during Putin's time, which would explain the random ages of their weapons and logistics (shells from the cold war etc)

It still strikes me as unbelievable. The British Army seems so small and underresourced in comparison. I just cannot fathom a situation where a nation loses 3k tanks in a year and they can still field more. Thanks for the explainer.
 
Because they were an incredibly militarized nation from back in the Soviet days and continued building on that during Putin's time, which would explain the random ages of their weapons and logistics (shells from the cold war etc)
The US certainly does and it's current military is pretty big
 
One year in, and I have two newbie questions.

How does Russia have this much equipment?

Most European armies have nowhere near this amount. But does the US have a similar stockpile of military equipment and materiel?

From Soviet days as people have said.
I looked up this to show comparison between Russia and US/NATO. Although its almost impossible to know how many armoured vehicles for example are actually usable or in state of disrepair.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293174/nato-russia-military-comparison/
 
Don't think I've ever seen any combat footage of an IFV type vehicle in action before this war. Never understood how devastating these 30mm auto-cannons are.

 
I just cannot fathom a situation where a nation loses 3k tanks in a year and they can still field more. Thanks for the explainer.
Late 80's, early 90's the Soviet army had a fleet of over 50,000 main battle tanks, all the tanks we see getting destroyed in Ukraine now are leftovers from those days.
 
It still strikes me as unbelievable. The British Army seems so small and underresourced in comparison. I just cannot fathom a situation where a nation loses 3k tanks in a year and they can still field more. Thanks for the explainer.

It probably is, because Britain, despite having an advanced military for a nation its size, was never really militarized as the Soviets or Americans, which continues to be the case today. I do suspect the Russians are depleting themselves and don't have the ability to replenish, which will be a turning point in the trajectory of the conflict - possibly one that will animate Putin to negotiate his way out of this.
 
From Soviet days as people have said.
I looked up this to show comparison between Russia and US/NATO. Although its almost impossible to know how many armoured vehicles for example are actually usable or in state of disrepair.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293174/nato-russia-military-comparison/
Some of those numbers look pretty low on the Russian side, I'm pretty sure they have more than 20 Air tankers and less main battle tanks than NATO doesn't sound right at all
 
It probably is, because Britain, despite having an advanced military for a nation its size, was never really militarized as the Soviets or Americans, which continues to be the case today. I do suspect the Russians are depleting themselves and don't have the ability to replenish, which will be a turning point in the trajectory of the conflict - possibly one that will animate Putin to negotiate his way out of this.
Great Britain is an island, it didn't need a huge tank army. Other countries had much more. For example in 1990 the German Bundeswehr had 2125 Leopard 2 MBT in active duty, after the collapse of the Soviet Union this was reduced to just more than 300 (and this doesn't even include the T-72 fleet of the GDR army). Russia simply stored their excess vehicles somewhere and are now trying to reactivate as many as possible of that stock.

While on the other hand half of the EU tank fleet consists of Leopard 2 that were sold by Germany due to the size reduction of the Bundeswehr as part of the reunification.
 
Some of those numbers look pretty low on the Russian side, I'm pretty sure they have more than 20 Air tankers and less main battle tanks than NATO doesn't sound right at all
Don't forget that NATO vs Russia means 950 million people living in the most wealthy states on the globe vs 140 million people living in a mediocre shithole.
 
Some of those numbers look pretty low on the Russian side, I'm pretty sure they have more than 20 Air tankers and less main battle tanks than NATO doesn't sound right at all
Actually they only have 19. Ilyushin Il-78 is the only specialized tanker in the Russian air force and only 56 planes have ever been built of which 19 is currently operated by Russia.
http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/il_78.htm
 
That’s because it is. The British Army might last a month in a conflict as intense as what’s been seen in Ukraine. It’s a very hollowed out force.

True. We put our power into the Navy but that is only something like 60 ships now all told. The armed forces have been neglected by 13 years of conservative rule. Very odd typing that.

From Soviet days as people have said.
I looked up this to show comparison between Russia and US/NATO. Although its almost impossible to know how many armoured vehicles for example are actually usable or in state of disrepair.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1293174/nato-russia-military-comparison/

Late 80's, early 90's the Soviet army had a fleet of over 50,000 main battle tanks, all the tanks we see getting destroyed in Ukraine now are leftovers from those days.

Thanks to you both. I had no idea it was in the order of tens of thousands of tanks.
 
Some of those numbers look pretty low on the Russian side, I'm pretty sure they have more than 20 Air tankers and less main battle tanks than NATO doesn't sound right at all

Why doesn't it sound right that NATO has more tanks than Russia? The US alone has over 6k tanks. Turkey has a couple of thousand, Greece has over a thousand, Poland has like 500, then you add up the rest and you get a few more thousand out of that. NATO has a lot of countries, after all. A lot of those tanks are going to be lower quality Cold War tanks, but then that accounts for Russia too.
 
Actually they only have 19. Ilyushin Il-78 is the only specialized tanker in the Russian air force and only 56 planes have ever been built of which 19 is currently operated by Russia.
http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/il_78.htm
Specialized tanker yes - probably should have listed it like that as there will be modified versions like the West sometimes use
 
Why doesn't it sound right that NATO has more tanks than Russia? The US alone has over 6k tanks. Turkey has a couple of thousand, Greece has over a thousand, Poland has like 500, then you add up the rest and you get a few more thousand out of that. NATO has a lot of countries, after all. A lot of those tanks are going to be lower quality Cold War tanks, but then that accounts for Russia too.
Lower quality definitely but they had 50K at the end of the cold war and I doubt NATO ever had close to that number, but I don't know, mind you the US would have a heck of a job getting 6K tanks to Europe!
 
True. We put our power into the Navy but that is only something like 60 ships now all told. The armed forces have been neglected by 13 years of conservative rule. Very odd typing that.





Thanks to you both. I had no idea it was in the order of tens of thousands of tanks.

Also worth noting that military hardware in general is gradually lessening over time. The US has a new warfighting concept that focuses on data superiority and the Chinese are already going in that direction. Soon, we will be in a bi-polar world again, except this time, without the Russians.
 
It still strikes me as unbelievable. The British Army seems so small and underresourced in comparison. I just cannot fathom a situation where a nation loses 3k tanks in a year and they can still field more. Thanks for the explainer.
For example, over 100 million AK 47s were made overall. Soviet conventional military doctrine was brute strength with numbers, especially on the ground. Overwhelm NATO was the goal.
 
For example, over 100 million AK 47s were made overall. Soviet conventional military doctrine was brute strength with numbers, especially on the ground. Overwhelm NATO was the goal.
Yes that is true, was their tactic in WW2 as well which is why their casualty numbers were many times everyone else
 
It still strikes me as unbelievable. The British Army seems so small and underresourced in comparison. I just cannot fathom a situation where a nation loses 3k tanks in a year and they can still field more. Thanks for the explainer.

It doesn't need one, UK is an island, a gigantic landforce is not a priority.
 
Specialized tanker yes - probably should have listed it like that as there will be modified versions like the West sometimes use
Only other ones I know of are some of their fighters that are able to perform buddy-buddy refuelings. I think it's the Mig-29 and some of the planes from the SU-27 family but i'm not certain. Those planes can of course carry very small amounts of fuel compared to a real tanker plane.