Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

I thought this was some sort of infrared camera at first, but no, that dude is actually on fire.
 
I thought this was some sort of infrared camera at first, but no, that dude is actually on fire.

The videos from Vuhledar keep coming during the last week or so, it’s been a total massacre for Russian forces thus far as their offensive is now fully underway on all fronts…They have learned shit all from Kiev offensive only now in those scrap metals you’ll have burning Russian mobiks instead of professional army that tried marching on Kiev.
 
The videos from Vuhledar keep coming during the last week or so, it’s been a total massacre for Russian forces thus far as their offensive is now fully underway on all fronts…They have learned shit all from Kiev offensive only now in those scrap metals you have burning Russian mobiks instead of professional army that tried marching on Kiev.


I don't think Putin cares how many die as long as he can continue to successfully hide the true numbers from the Russian public and continue recruiting others.
 
He has arguments that Putin “exists”? Wut?
In another post he explained his theory that there is the real Putin and (at least one) doppelganger who takes care of public events, and he had some arguments for this theory. So here he probably means that the real Putin is still living and in control, but might die or become incapable to act, and then he might be completely replaced by his doppelganger if someone wants to cover that up.
 
I thought this was some sort of infrared camera at first, but no, that dude is actually on fire.

No lie, I’m sitting here watching this while my wife is on Tiktok and right as the tank goes up her phone plays the “dumb ways to die” song.

I’m beside myself
 
In another post he explained his theory that there is the real Putin and (at least one) doppelganger who takes care of public events, and he had some arguments for this theory. So here he probably means that the real Putin is still living and in control, but might die or become incapable to act, and then he might be completely replaced by his doppelganger if someone wants to cover that up.

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Some Russians must be so far down the propaganda rabbit hole that they've lost all grip on reality.
 
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Some Russians must be so far down the propaganda rabbit hole that they've lost all grip on reality.
Well yes, but Girkin is one of the most trustworthy Russian sources, he actually does oppose the official propaganda quite often and most of his analysis is on point and often proven by the ongoing events.

Of course he isn't part of the inner Kremlin circle so he is speculating about Putin, but I wouldn't dismiss his theories. They are far more grounded in reality than the official Russian propaganda.
 
Well yes, but Girkin is one of the most trustworthy Russian sources, he actually does oppose the official propaganda quite often and most of his analysis is on point and often proven by the ongoing events.

Of course he isn't part of the inner Kremlin circle so he is speculating about Putin, but I wouldn't dismiss his theories. They are far more grounded in reality than the official Russian propaganda.

I know as far as Russian commentators go he's more grounded but this one is ridiculous. Do you really think it's possible the Russians have a guy who looks and sounds exactly like Putin that they wheel out for public appearances and could use him to replace Putin if he was killed/died and no one would notice?
 
I know as far as Russian commentators go he's more grounded but this one is ridiculous. Do you really think it's possible the Russians have a guy who looks and sounds exactly like Putin that they wheel out for public appearances and could use him to replace Putin if he was killed/died and no one would notice?
Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. I don't really think it is, but I wouldn't bet much on that.
 
Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. I don't really think it is, but I wouldn't bet much on that.

I mean I'm sure some world leaders have lookalikes for diversion purposes when they travel.

But I just can't buy into the idea that Russia has found a guy who looks and sounds so much like putin that he could replace him and fool everyone in interviews etc.
 
See no discussion here on the Ukraine corruption. Pretty concerning if you ask me

Corruption has been a problem since the Soviet days and into this century - mainly due to continued Russian interference in Ukrainian democracy.
 
Corruption has been a problem since the Soviet days and into this century - mainly due to continued Russian interference in Ukrainian democracy.

So Russia takes blame for Ukraines corruption of aid money as well ? That’s silly. Please read about the defense minister. No Russian involvement here he was just lining his pockets

that too during a time of war which is sick
 
I know as far as Russian commentators go he's more grounded but this one is ridiculous. Do you really think it's possible the Russians have a guy who looks and sounds exactly like Putin that they wheel out for public appearances and could use him to replace Putin if he was killed/died and no one would notice?

I lean toward agreeing its ridiculous, but to be fair, the Putin we see nowadays doesn't quite look exactly like the the Putin of old. He's clearly had some work done to his face, so I suppose those that subscribe to this theory propose that its someone who has had surgery to look like Putin, rather than Putin getting a facelift or whatever.
 
So Russia takes blame for Ukraines corruption of aid money as well ? That’s silly. Please read about the defense minister. No Russian involvement here he was just lining his pockets

that too during a time of war which is sick

Many of the Ukrainian figures of the present are corrupt, which is simply a continuation of post-Soviet corruption, which has been heavily influenced by Putin's consistent attempts at thwarting Ukrainian democracy by undermining the development of Ukrainian institutions and the Rule of Law. Its simply a continuation of Soviet corruption (just as in Russia) that won't go away until the Ukrainians finally rid themselves of Russian influence. Cherry picking one individual in the news today doesn't change this fundamental reality.
 
See no discussion here on the Ukraine corruption. Pretty concerning if you ask me

I thought pretty much everyone agreed that Ukraine was corrupt as feck before the war. Don't know how innocent Zelensky is in terms of corruption, but one could hope that the war will shake out some of the bad eggs in the country.
 
I thought pretty much everyone agreed that Ukraine was corrupt as feck before the war. Don't know how innocent Zelensky is in terms of corruption, but one could hope that the war will shake out some of the bad eggs in the country.
Exactly. This is a war between an imperialistic corrupt oligarchy and a simply corrupt oligarchy. But the latter at least slowly improved during the last decade and looks like it tries to keep improving.

Ukraine definitely isn't as corrupt as Russia expected, otherwise they could have easily taken Ukraine, that should give us some hope.
 
So Russia takes blame for Ukraines corruption of aid money as well ? That’s silly. Please read about the defense minister. No Russian involvement here he was just lining his pockets

that too during a time of war which is sick

It is sick. But also unsurprising. Corruption is one of the biggest problems in Ukraine, second only to russians. And despite the progress in the last 8 years, it would have been naive to think it will completely go away because of war. So the fact individuals have been named and punished is a positive development.

Minister of Defence (Reznikov) will be replaced because he wasn't able to fight corruption in his own ministry. He personally wasn't accused of anything (at least publicly), but had to go either way.
 
See no discussion here on the Ukraine corruption. Pretty concerning if you ask me
Corruption have always been and will always be around - war is one of the messiest situations one country can have and every country that have been in war have had major corruption cases. The fact that things come out so openly and they are open about it, shows how greatly their nation have grown and how they want to change and become better.
 
Many of the Ukrainian figures of the present are corrupt, which is simply a continuation of post-Soviet corruption, which has been heavily influenced by Putin's consistent attempts at thwarting Ukrainian democracy by undermining the development of Ukrainian institutions and the Rule of Law. Its simply a continuation of Soviet corruption (just as in Russia) that won't go away until the Ukrainians finally rid themselves of Russian influence. Cherry picking one individual in the news today doesn't change this fundamental reality.


Corruption have always been and will always be around - war is one of the messiest situations one country can have and every country that have been in war have had major corruption cases. The fact that things come out so openly and they are open about it, shows how greatly their nation have grown and how they want to change and become better.

I thought pretty much everyone agreed that Ukraine was corrupt as feck before the war. Don't know how innocent Zelensky is in terms of corruption, but one could hope that the war will shake out some of the bad eggs in the country.

Well this is specifically aid money that was misappropriated from what I understand, not the usual sort of corruption that Ukraine has "always had".

It's American tax dollars which we as citizens pay which is misused so personally I can't be as dismissive about it as "it's always been the case"
 
See no discussion here on the Ukraine corruption. Pretty concerning if you ask me

How is Ukraine corruption relevant in a Russian invasion of Ukraine thread? AFAIK Putin is invading because of ukranians somehow being *checks notes* russian-hating NATO-loving heretic (hence the holy war) jew-commanded nazis, not for corruption issues.

PS: "The Ukraine" as I understand is derogatory.
 
Well this is specifically aid money that was misappropriated from what I understand, not the usual sort of corruption that Ukraine has "always had".

It's American tax dollars which we as citizens pay which is misused so personally I can't be as dismissive about it as "it's always been the case"

Well, it's not only American tax dollars. And no one is dismissive, since people were punished for it. What is your solution?
 
PS: "The Ukraine" as I understand is derogatory.
Yes it is, but he wrote about "the [...] corruption", no need to criticise him for that.

For those who don't know why, usually articles are used for landscapes and not for countries. So saying "the Ukraine" does essentially translate to "the borderlands [of Russia]" and therefore implicitly support the Russian claim to it.

But it's not that strict in other languages, in German for example there are a few countries that are called similar and no one would see that as derogatory (die Schweiz/Switzerland for example), so even if someone writes it that way he might simply not be aware that this issue exists.
 
Well this is specifically aid money that was misappropriated from what I understand, not the usual sort of corruption that Ukraine has "always had".

It's American tax dollars which we as citizens pay which is misused so personally I can't be as dismissive about it as "it's always been the case"

Its part and parcel of giving aid to any foreign country. The US does the same across all kinds of middle eastern nations where there is also plenty of corruption.
 
Yes it is, but he wrote about "the [...] corruption", no need to criticise him for that.

For those who don't know why, usually articles are used for landscapes and not for countries. So saying "the Ukraine" does essentially translate to "the borderlands [of Russia]" and therefore implicitly support the Russian claim to it.

Thanks for clarifying! English isn't my first language.
 
Well this is specifically aid money that was misappropriated from what I understand, not the usual sort of corruption that Ukraine has "always had".

It's American tax dollars which we as citizens pay which is misused so personally I can't be as dismissive about it as "it's always been the case"
Doesn't matter whose money it is, money is still money.
 
How is Ukraine corruption relevant in a Russian invasion of Ukraine thread? AFAIK Putin is invading because of ukranians somehow being *checks notes* russian-hating NATO-loving heretic (hence the holy war) jew-commanded nazis, not for corruption issues.

PS: "The Ukraine" as I understand is derogatory.

The corruption is quite relevant when it impacts Ukraine's ability to defend themselves, I'd think.
 

So sad that our resident Greek troll went silent in this thread... I would love to wind him up by reminding him that the AfD originally was founded as a reaction to the Greek financial disaster and that this is his fault...

*whistling innocently*
 
Its part and parcel of giving aid to any foreign country. The US does the same across all kinds of middle eastern nations where there is also plenty of corruption.

I always call it out there as well but I disagree it is Part and parcel this is a massive amount of aid