Rugby Union 23/24 Discussion
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The 20 minute red was a great argument a year or 2 ago when the refs were sending everyone off for head contact. It feels in the NH now that they’ve got the balance right, only the egregious nasty or dangerous ones actually get red carded
I think the bunker’s been a great addition.
Totally, I was trying not to show off.
Yes it’s saved loads of tedious hanging around
No team can be excellent all the time unless they are playing dross. Italy and England have both made significant progress into becoming teams that will give anyone a game. As usual, sport isn't about should have and could have nor blaming the Refs. The alleged 'No arm tackle' was called by the Argentinian Linesman not the Aussie Ref and was a mistaken call but that's the way it is. The overthrow at the lineout was the turning point in the game for me.
As for any League v Union discussions, I actually saw a League player get sent off the other week! Usually, they have to almost kill an opponent for that. If RL was refereed under RU laws, the game would be over in 20 minutes due to lack of players. The safety of players is finally being put first in both codes, but RL still has a way to catch up with RU.
As for any League v Union discussions, I actually saw a League player get sent off the other week! Usually, they have to almost kill an opponent for that. If RL was refereed under RU laws, the game would be over in 20 minutes due to lack of players. The safety of players is finally being put first in both codes, but RL still has a way to catch up with RU.
Absolutely agree.
Tackling technique is different in league, there’s a lot more upright tackling (to tie the ball up). Consequently you get so many more high shots, drives me spare watching the games.
There’s a law amendment next season at youth and amateur level to tackling below the armpit. Below the armpit! Who tackles above the armpit ffs
On red cards, Hull FC have had two this season. One was a terrible decision, unintentional head contact, unavoidable, no one even appealed for a foul….and the other was a legitimate murder attempt
yep. a lot easier to watch the games this six nations without the fear that the ref is about to decide the outcome because heads accidentally clashed unavoidably in a tackle.
Caught up on the highlights now.
Very tough to call between Italy's second try and France's first try for the try of the day. Both were absolutely fantastic.
Very tough to call between Italy's second try and France's first try for the try of the day. Both were absolutely fantastic.
Table says different.
You again. Are you just insistent on proving you have no sense of humour?
Ah humour was it! Ok then whatever.
Yep. Context is very important. This is the second time youve taken issue with an Irish poster for perceived slights. You seem to have very thin skin.
I didn't take issue and I didn't know where the poster came from. Ok? Talk about thin skin!
Oh you certainly did, that's why you got your 3 lions tagline.
Listen I am obviously from a different generation than you and most on here.
I am Irish too by the way.
I genuinely do not know where the vast majority of posters on here come from.
How in the name of all that's holy am I supposed to know a bare statement like " England clearly the best team" is an attempt at humour?
Same goes for the " It's coming home" during the World Cup. You think it's funny to tag me with that? Have I complained about it? Not once. I'm politely asking you to remove it now seeing as you have that power.
I know you are Irish. You're not much older than me. And from the same town.
Maybe it's better not to react to isolated comments without knowing the context? It's what seperates this place from random YouTube comments.
Such a downer when the 6N finishes.
His comment was incredibly obviously not serious
@moses loves English rugby. Jolly good chaps playing the game the right way. Well-educated fellows. Dad’s got a law firm so can just play rugby all day without any worries
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What town? It's a discussion forum.Who has the time for all that! Whatever happened to free speech.
You maybe.
Me maybe what?
You get arrested for being English these days (that’s @moses fecked)
Christ. Nobody is stopping you speaking.
Free speech is universal, not just for you. So when you say something there is a right to reply.
Exactly
Take from the Times. Full article : https://archive.md/wG1rh#selection-2985.0-3047.67
Immediate law changes
• Referees to call “use it” and start their five-second countdown at rucks earlier, to avoid “caterpillar rucks” (Good idea. To avoid time consuming scrums, the ball should be called out once the 5 seconds called by the ref has elapsed)
• Hookers must maintain a full “brake foot” by putting one foot forward at scrums to aid their stability
• A crackdown on water-carriers entering the field (good idea)
Possible law changes (to be voted on by World Rugby council in May)
• Closing the “Dupont Law” loophole, by tweaking the offside rule from kicks, to reduce kick-tennis battles (This has worked well in SRP)
• Remove the option of a second scrum when a free kick is given at a scrum (Well worth trialling)
• Outlawing the dangerous “crocodile-roll” at rucks
Possible trials
• A shot-clock for scrums and lineouts (Yes please)
• Ability to mark the ball inside the 22m from a restart (Would it be worth getting rid of the mark?)
• The ball must be played after the maul has been stopped once, not twice
• Further protection of scrum halves at the base of rucks and scrums
• Play on if a lineout is not straight, but the throw is uncontested (common sense really)
Areas for further analysis
• Possible global trial of a 20-minute red card (I'm still not entirely for or against this possible law)
• A big safety review of the breakdown, and possible removal of the “jackal”
• A review of the role of the TMO
• A review of how and when replacements are used
• Possible introduction of a lower tackle-height for the elite game (No, no, no, no, no!)
Immediate law changes
• Referees to call “use it” and start their five-second countdown at rucks earlier, to avoid “caterpillar rucks” (Good idea. To avoid time consuming scrums, the ball should be called out once the 5 seconds called by the ref has elapsed)
• Hookers must maintain a full “brake foot” by putting one foot forward at scrums to aid their stability
• A crackdown on water-carriers entering the field (good idea)
Possible law changes (to be voted on by World Rugby council in May)
• Closing the “Dupont Law” loophole, by tweaking the offside rule from kicks, to reduce kick-tennis battles (This has worked well in SRP)
• Remove the option of a second scrum when a free kick is given at a scrum (Well worth trialling)
• Outlawing the dangerous “crocodile-roll” at rucks
Possible trials
• A shot-clock for scrums and lineouts (Yes please)
• Ability to mark the ball inside the 22m from a restart (Would it be worth getting rid of the mark?)
• The ball must be played after the maul has been stopped once, not twice
• Further protection of scrum halves at the base of rucks and scrums
• Play on if a lineout is not straight, but the throw is uncontested (common sense really)
Areas for further analysis
• Possible global trial of a 20-minute red card (I'm still not entirely for or against this possible law)
• A big safety review of the breakdown, and possible removal of the “jackal”
• A review of the role of the TMO
• A review of how and when replacements are used
• Possible introduction of a lower tackle-height for the elite game (No, no, no, no, no!)
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- Ability to mark the ball inside the 22m from a restart
- A big safety review of the breakdown, and possible removal of the “jackal”
As a former back-rower I would be disgusted if Jackaling was removed. It’s one of the key components of the game. I actually think they’re barking up the right tree in getting rid of croc rolls. They’re a genuine danger and just thinking of the biomechanics of being ‘rolled’ with your legs planted makes me feel sick.
Oh and if they can nail the DuPont law, scrum resets and caterpillar rucks then fantastic
In other news, Sarries vs Quins at 3pm today…..on ITV1! Hopefully be a good game and get some decent viewing numbers
Is that the home game Sarries take to Tottenham's home ground?
Yes mate, should be a belter
I bet nobody thought Austin Healey had so much power: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/35022...-tmo-blunder-involving-foul-play-owen-farrell
This is all a bit odd. Why are the refs listening to the punditry in-game? Surely, they should be operating independently of some ex players' opinion.
@Xaviesta watching the second half of the Tahs rebels game….pretty entertaining to be fair. Nice to see Tupou on and looking good. The commentators are saying they need to keep him in Australia, are there rumours of him going abroad? Where?
I didn't catch the Tahs vs Rebels match but from what I read, the first half was not pretty. Tupou has struggled to stay injury free and doesn't look physically fit for the rigours of super rugby thus far.
He has been linked with Leinster and I'm sure they won't be the only European club to take an interest in him if/when the Rebels are booted out of super rugby due to their financial issues. He's one of the more marketable players we have here which is important when people who get off on bagging rugby talk about rugby players being largely unknown to the general sporting public here.
The issue is he's on 1.2m (AUD) which would be around 600,000 pounds and he hasn't exactly been value for money so far. He suffered a dreadful injury against Ireland at the AVIVA in 2022, he then got injured before the Fiji game at the World Cup. When he's fit and firing, he's an asset to any team.
Thanks, yeah I haven’t seen him play in so long I’d actually forgotten who he played his club rugby for.
Be excited to see him in Europe if he can get healthy….i can see him at a French club
Bravo to Luke Pearce for policing the 5 second law during the Northampton vs Saracens match but surely there's a better sanction for wasting time than a scrum which itself takes time out of the game. Maybe refs can call ''use it 5'' like Luke Pearce did and Ben O'Keeffe does and call ''ball is out'' once the 5 seconds have elapsed so you're not stopping the game.