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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
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It hasn't been only downs.
Since he's arrived we've knocked Arsenal out of the cup, beaten City, drew with Liverpool, beaten Everton/Southampton and had back to back wins in the EL. Those are all positives amidst the shit.
Agreed but you can see how Amad has risen to the opportunity. I guarantee you, if you benched Hojlund, Garnacho, Mainoo, Zirkzee, they will all want to leave.
So which one is it? do you want to play and have expectations or sit on the bench and leave?
the experienced players will obviously leave in the next 2 windows.
Too many games in quick succession. Our attack was utter crap before he arrived. He's removed Rashford (correct call) and now we have no genuine goal threats other than Bruno (who tries to do everything by himself) or Diallo (who's an inexperienced kid at this level).
The problem is very much squad balance and personal especially up top and he simply cannot fix that until the Summer.
On top of that we've basically been playing two games a week since he got here. Having said all of this, I'd much sooner have these teething problems now and start next season from a position of strength and knowledge than have signed Amorim in the Summer and have the same problem but impact next season.
At least we knew already that our league position was going to be shit this year. So may as well have the really bad patch now when it doesn't overly matter.
As another poster said there hasn't been only downs. I am a bit afraid if we manage to get one or two players in because after the next game which doesn't go our way you can read "now he has players in and we are still sh*t, he is clueless" or something in that narrative. Stop overreacting prepare yourself for what can be a pretty tough ride this season and hope RA has the strength and ability to turn us around.
I'm very confused on what is going on with RA.
Is he refusing to play a different/altered system, that's more suited to the players at hand, because:
A) the club has promised to see this as a failed season already and he will be backed in summer, to get the players he so desperately need for this system to work?
B) he's being incredibly stubborn and refuses to see that the system he's trying to implement is not working with this setup and he has absolutely no plan B in case his preferred formation does not work?
Also, we are talking about, on paper, highly professional football players, that I simply refuse to believe, cannot play more than just one system. All or most are playing regularly for their nation teams, are we supposed to believe every national team plays only to players strength? No, you adjust and make do with what you have. That RA is refusing to do anything to make adjustments is giving med Ange Postcoglou vibes.
Someone change this timeline, I don't like it!
Is he refusing to play a different/altered system, that's more suited to the players at hand, because:
A) the club has promised to see this as a failed season already and he will be backed in summer, to get the players he so desperately need for this system to work?
B) he's being incredibly stubborn and refuses to see that the system he's trying to implement is not working with this setup and he has absolutely no plan B in case his preferred formation does not work?
Also, we are talking about, on paper, highly professional football players, that I simply refuse to believe, cannot play more than just one system. All or most are playing regularly for their nation teams, are we supposed to believe every national team plays only to players strength? No, you adjust and make do with what you have. That RA is refusing to do anything to make adjustments is giving med Ange Postcoglou vibes.
Someone change this timeline, I don't like it!
Good post. Agreed.
Much as I enjoyed the City, Liverpool and Arsenal performances and results, let's be honest, the amount of guff we've had to sit through I couldn't care less if he (metaphorically) burned the whole lot of them.
Any one of those ninnies, individually or collectively, resorting to "downing tools" or Amorim "losing the dressing room", or whatever the ridiculous phrases are, and I hope he leaves for his own sanity.
The guy's not quite 40 yet he's having to babysit a bunch of overpaid grown up children?
Let's see if they give him any sort of positive reaction against Rangers. You can talk about formations until you're blue in the face but in the end the players need to take a good long hard look at themselves.
Any one of those ninnies, individually or collectively, resorting to "downing tools" or Amorim "losing the dressing room", or whatever the ridiculous phrases are, and I hope he leaves for his own sanity.
The guy's not quite 40 yet he's having to babysit a bunch of overpaid grown up children?
Let's see if they give him any sort of positive reaction against Rangers. You can talk about formations until you're blue in the face but in the end the players need to take a good long hard look at themselves.
Not sure Moyes was ever wanted by a top team before joining us. Van Gaal was wanted only by Spurs before he opted for us. Mourinho was wanted by PSG but was definitely on a decline. Ole obviously in Norwegian League and now at Besiktas which says a lot as well. Ten Hag is someone that clubs like Spurs and Barca (2021) were interested in, Bayern (2024) and Dortmund (2025) so he's actually only one that has had some big clubs interested in appointing him (more from continent than England though).
Amorim was wanted by Liverpool to replace Klopp and (if reports were right) City to eventually replace Pep. So not that I'll give him blind faith because of it, but we may have finally signed a manager that is good enough. Results have been mostly terrible but I hope he doesn't give up and board don't give up on him. Hopefully results improve to extent, perhaps sign 1-2 players this month and get through the season. Hopefully it's a case of situation getting worse before it gets better.
Amorim was wanted by Liverpool to replace Klopp and (if reports were right) City to eventually replace Pep. So not that I'll give him blind faith because of it, but we may have finally signed a manager that is good enough. Results have been mostly terrible but I hope he doesn't give up and board don't give up on him. Hopefully results improve to extent, perhaps sign 1-2 players this month and get through the season. Hopefully it's a case of situation getting worse before it gets better.
Our squad is awful. You can't polish a turd (or eight). I hope the club invests in Amorim and he gets players who are keen to improve and not just collect their wage.
Super post absolutely spot on
Fergie had a temper and it was the 1980s to 90s where that was more acceptable. Nowadays this isn't seen as controlling the dressing room. Besides, Fergie was a genius man manager and didn''t regluarly lose his temper
So Collyer, Mainoo and Garnacho should be out on loan somewhere?
Irrresepctive of whether he's good enough or not, asking Hojlund or any other player of a similar experience and age to lead the line as a lone striker in the PL is just plain stupid
Backtracking on his worst team comment. Saying he was referring to himself not the team 
Sounds like he's had a talking to
Sounds like he's had a talking to
Looking at the presser. live.. he is looking very tired already. Only been a couple months.
We broke himLooking at the presser. live.. he is looking very tired already. Only been a couple months.
Joined 1 - 6 months too early.
The body language experts are back.
Liverpool wanted Amorim but apparently decided against because of his insistence of playing 3-4-2-1, because they didn’t have the players for it. Going for Slot who has similar continuity to Klopp looks an inspired choice.
We’ve got to stop picking managers with wildly different philosophies. Van Gaal to Mourinho was a classic example. Other teams have an identity and pick a manager along those lines. It’s another mess.
I guess the 'hairdryer' was a one off thing then? What about him regularly accosting journalists? I'm not sure where you're getting this impression from but Pep went ape shit at Ortega last week, before that he was fighting with Haaland on the pitch a few months ago, Klopp regularly lost his shit. People need to separate losing one's temper and having a tantrum with emotional spiking.
He was told to apologise / alter the message. „Worst United side in the History” tag doesnt sell well to the sponsors.
And what did people make of that?
No need to make stuff up.
I'm glad he came honestly to apologise and gracefully explain himself.
Ironically Mourinho to Ole on paper was a great choice tactics-wise, both counter-attacking coaches.
That’s my opinion.
Seen a couple have already decided this is true without any evidence. A shame.
And it worked for a good while! But we're definitely prone to scattergun our managerial appointments
Fair enough. Just more likely that he realised that he was speaking too emotionally in the moment and decided to clarify today.
Starting to sound d like ETH already
Don’t expect too much with the greedy guy at the top. Hé won’t open the wallet to make a clearout. Most of our players with big wage are unsealable : Casemiro, Rashford, Antony , Shaw, Mount. And appart from Mainoo and Garnacho the rest are worse a big bag of pennies.
Collyer is not been put under pressure, neither is Mainoo, what are you talking about? Just making things up.
Asking Hojlund to do a basic job and keep the ball, is too much pressure then he does not deserve to be at this club. This is his 2nd full season, look at player like Jackson for Chelsea.
Asking footballers to keep their position and do basics is too much pressure then they should not be here.
Cool, you’ve presented it as fact though.
What exactly has Mainoo done for us to think he has a bad attitude?
This is all a setup by Manchester City.
Be intrigued, be very intrigued!
The Master Plan Begins: Testing Manchester United’s Rash Decision-Making
Stage 1: The Sanchez Decoy
City starts their long-term experiment to exploit Manchester United’s tendency for rash, reactionary decisions. They pretend to pursue Alexis Sanchez—a once-brilliant, now-waning star. Rumours swirl about City offering him a lucrative deal, knowing full well United’s leadership cannot resist snatching him away in a panic. United swoops in, offering Sanchez a ludicrous £500,000-a-week wage package, and City quietly backs out, grinning.
Objective accomplished: United’s wage structure is thrown into chaos, their squad harmony begins to crack, and City notes their rivals’ predictable desperation.
Stage 2: The Fred Trap
With Sanchez’s success as a case study, City shifts their sights to Fred, a decent midfielder who fits their narrative perfectly. Guardiola pretends to admire Fred’s potential as a midfield maestro, with planted stories leaking to the media about City preparing a bid. Predictably, United reacts like a moth to a flame, paying £47 million for a player who, while serviceable, fails to live up to the hype City planted.
Objective accomplished: United burns another chunk of cash, and City proves their ability to control United's transfer policy like puppet masters.
Stage 3: The Maguire Bait
Taking it to the next level, City hypes up Harry Maguire, making murmurs about his "ball-playing skills" and leadership. City’s planted interest inflates Maguire’s price tag, convincing United to break the world record for a defender at £80 million. Maguire becomes a magnet for memes while City sit back and chuckle.
Objective accomplished: United spends a fortune on a defender who becomes emblematic of their defensive struggles.
Stage 4: The Ronaldo Coup
Now for the pièce de résistance of this phase: Cristiano Ronaldo. United were looking like a force again under beloved legend Ole Gunnar Solksjaer. City needed to act fast, they pretended to bring their long-time rival to the Etihad in a stunning twist, knowing the emotional chaos this would unleash at Old Trafford. United, unable to let their fanbase see Ronaldo in blue, jumps in with an inflated offer and reunites with CR7. But the cracks soon show—Ronaldo’s return disrupts United’s tactical balance and sparks infighting.
Objective accomplished: United’s nostalgia-driven decision causes internal discord, leaving City free to focus on their relentless machine.
They briefly feign interest in the equally disruptive Paul Pogba to tempt United to offer him an expensive long term deal, but somehow United inexplicably make the right call! Hence the need for the nail in the coffin...
The Amorim Gambit: Setting the Stage for Chaos
Phase 1: Guardiola’s Double Life
Here’s where it gets truly diabolical. Pep Guardiola secretly takes over as Sporting Lisbon’s shadow manager, using Ruben Amorim as a stooge to keep up appearances. With Pep’s tactical brilliance, Sporting achieves success, burnishing Amorim’s reputation as one of Europe’s brightest young coaches.
Why? Because City knows that when Pep’s time at the Etihad ends (whether by choice or as a result of their 115 charges), United will inevitably try to copy their formula. Amorim’s profile as a “Pep-like visionary” is carefully crafted by Pep himself.
Phase 2: Preparing the Final Blow
When it looks like City might face serious punishment for financial breaches, they pull the trigger. Stories are leaked to the press suggesting City is eyeing Amorim as Pep’s heir. This is pure bait. United, predictably, panics. After all, if City wants Amorim, he must be the real deal.
Simultaneously, City stages an internal “fallout” with Omar Berrada, their Chief Operating Officer, who “defects” to United. What United doesn’t realise is that Berrada is still acting in City’s interest. Once inside United, he aggressively pushes for Amorim, claiming he’s the next Guardiola.
United’s Downfall
United, convinced by the media hype, the fake fallout, and their obsession with City’s formula, hires Ruben Amorim. What they don’t know is that Amorim is utterly unqualified. Every bit of his success at Sporting was orchestrated by Guardiola, who was pulling the strings from afar. Amorim’s tactics fail spectacularly, and United spirals further into chaos.
City, meanwhile, quietly brings in a legitimate successor for Guardiola while watching United implode. The long con is complete.
The Aftermath
As Amorim’s United crashes out of Europe and tumbles down the league table, City consolidates their dominance. The 115 charges may still be looming, but Pep retires knowing he not only led City to unprecedented success but also orchestrated the long-term collapse of their greatest rivals. Fans and pundits eventually piece together the scheme, but by then, it’s too late. City have cemented their legacy, and United’s reputation is in tatters.
Be intrigued, be very intrigued!
The Master Plan Begins: Testing Manchester United’s Rash Decision-Making
Stage 1: The Sanchez Decoy
City starts their long-term experiment to exploit Manchester United’s tendency for rash, reactionary decisions. They pretend to pursue Alexis Sanchez—a once-brilliant, now-waning star. Rumours swirl about City offering him a lucrative deal, knowing full well United’s leadership cannot resist snatching him away in a panic. United swoops in, offering Sanchez a ludicrous £500,000-a-week wage package, and City quietly backs out, grinning.
Objective accomplished: United’s wage structure is thrown into chaos, their squad harmony begins to crack, and City notes their rivals’ predictable desperation.
Stage 2: The Fred Trap
With Sanchez’s success as a case study, City shifts their sights to Fred, a decent midfielder who fits their narrative perfectly. Guardiola pretends to admire Fred’s potential as a midfield maestro, with planted stories leaking to the media about City preparing a bid. Predictably, United reacts like a moth to a flame, paying £47 million for a player who, while serviceable, fails to live up to the hype City planted.
Objective accomplished: United burns another chunk of cash, and City proves their ability to control United's transfer policy like puppet masters.
Stage 3: The Maguire Bait
Taking it to the next level, City hypes up Harry Maguire, making murmurs about his "ball-playing skills" and leadership. City’s planted interest inflates Maguire’s price tag, convincing United to break the world record for a defender at £80 million. Maguire becomes a magnet for memes while City sit back and chuckle.
Objective accomplished: United spends a fortune on a defender who becomes emblematic of their defensive struggles.
Stage 4: The Ronaldo Coup
Now for the pièce de résistance of this phase: Cristiano Ronaldo. United were looking like a force again under beloved legend Ole Gunnar Solksjaer. City needed to act fast, they pretended to bring their long-time rival to the Etihad in a stunning twist, knowing the emotional chaos this would unleash at Old Trafford. United, unable to let their fanbase see Ronaldo in blue, jumps in with an inflated offer and reunites with CR7. But the cracks soon show—Ronaldo’s return disrupts United’s tactical balance and sparks infighting.
Objective accomplished: United’s nostalgia-driven decision causes internal discord, leaving City free to focus on their relentless machine.
They briefly feign interest in the equally disruptive Paul Pogba to tempt United to offer him an expensive long term deal, but somehow United inexplicably make the right call! Hence the need for the nail in the coffin...
The Amorim Gambit: Setting the Stage for Chaos
Phase 1: Guardiola’s Double Life
Here’s where it gets truly diabolical. Pep Guardiola secretly takes over as Sporting Lisbon’s shadow manager, using Ruben Amorim as a stooge to keep up appearances. With Pep’s tactical brilliance, Sporting achieves success, burnishing Amorim’s reputation as one of Europe’s brightest young coaches.
Why? Because City knows that when Pep’s time at the Etihad ends (whether by choice or as a result of their 115 charges), United will inevitably try to copy their formula. Amorim’s profile as a “Pep-like visionary” is carefully crafted by Pep himself.
Phase 2: Preparing the Final Blow
When it looks like City might face serious punishment for financial breaches, they pull the trigger. Stories are leaked to the press suggesting City is eyeing Amorim as Pep’s heir. This is pure bait. United, predictably, panics. After all, if City wants Amorim, he must be the real deal.
Simultaneously, City stages an internal “fallout” with Omar Berrada, their Chief Operating Officer, who “defects” to United. What United doesn’t realise is that Berrada is still acting in City’s interest. Once inside United, he aggressively pushes for Amorim, claiming he’s the next Guardiola.
United’s Downfall
United, convinced by the media hype, the fake fallout, and their obsession with City’s formula, hires Ruben Amorim. What they don’t know is that Amorim is utterly unqualified. Every bit of his success at Sporting was orchestrated by Guardiola, who was pulling the strings from afar. Amorim’s tactics fail spectacularly, and United spirals further into chaos.
City, meanwhile, quietly brings in a legitimate successor for Guardiola while watching United implode. The long con is complete.
The Aftermath
As Amorim’s United crashes out of Europe and tumbles down the league table, City consolidates their dominance. The 115 charges may still be looming, but Pep retires knowing he not only led City to unprecedented success but also orchestrated the long-term collapse of their greatest rivals. Fans and pundits eventually piece together the scheme, but by then, it’s too late. City have cemented their legacy, and United’s reputation is in tatters.
I hope he sticks with his system and sticks to being outspoken and honest.
Anyone already calling for his head probably just need to go and focus on something else for the rest of the season. There will be ups and downs and it's cleary not something you're prepared to experience.
Anyone already calling for his head probably just need to go and focus on something else for the rest of the season. There will be ups and downs and it's cleary not something you're prepared to experience.
Did Amorim smash up a TV on the half way line or did he do it in the dressing room? Besides, what does it matter what people make of it, the question is did it get a reaction out of Ortega? People were all snowflake about Zirkzee getting booed the other week, he's been miles better since. Low bar but sometimes people need a wake up call to realise their chances at success are literally passing them by because they're scared.