Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

Having watched the first interview and absorb some of the things Amorim said, I can't help but to feel optimistic. I know it's partly heart guiding the brain, but I always felt ETH was too much of a technocrat and whilst at the time that's what we needed, in time it became apparent that he couldn't carry the team, players and club like a Utd manager should.

I really hope the players buy into his philosophy and ideas of playing, I know the younger players will, but he needs some of the seniors players to step up as well, or I'm sure they're out of here. That much he seems very adamant on.

Really looking forward to what he can do with the team, but I'm not naive enough to think he can get this team playing consistent winning football, but hopefully towards the last third of the season we can see something very good.
 
Why does the club spell his name wrong? I think it's like this Ruben Amorim.
 
Is anyone else completely disassociated from this?

I don't know if it's because I was away in the States for a week then I came back and it was the international break so maybe I fell off the hype wagon, but I still feel quite a lot of apathy. I haven't even gone out of my way to look at his interviews or press conferences, I've just happened to see some quotes.

Everything about Amorim seems great but it's hard to know what's real given what we've seen over the past few years. I have a bit of an "I'll believe it when I see it mentality" but even when/if I see it, I probably won't believe it's going to last.

Will probably feel more optimistic come the Ipswich game, that's how these things go.
 
DJ_21 said:
Ye you can tell in the way he communicates. The players will 100% understand his ideas a lot clearer than they did with ETH. I mean the Dutch have their way of explaining things but it isn’t always clear.
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The weird thing is that Dutch people generally have really good English. But ten Hag surprised me with how limited his was. Was van Gaal similar?
 
Insanity said:
feck MUTV! Everything is behind a paywall now. Earlier you could see the "90 in 20" highlights and other stuff but now it wants you to buy the membership even for those. Annoying shit.
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Yeah its bollocks its 4 USD for a month for me but I have no use for it after the interview.
GDaly95 said:
Is anyone else completely disassociated from this?

I don't know if it's because I was away in the States for a week then I came back and it was the international break so maybe I fell off the hype wagon, but I still feel quite a lot of apathy. I haven't even gone out of my way to look at his interviews or press conferences, I've just happened to see some quotes.

Everything about Amorim seems great but it's hard to know what's real given what we've seen over the past few years. I have a bit of an "I'll believe it when I see it mentality" but even when/if I see it, I probably won't believe it's going to last.

Will probably feel more optimistic come the Ipswich game, that's how these things go.
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And thats why youre not one of the best posters.
 
He comes across as far more of a people person than Erik ever did. Whether that - and everything else he brings to the table - is enough to have the team buy into his philosophy and get us back competing will take time to see.

I like him though. So far anyway.
 
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I always thought Ten Hag was a little stiff and remember comparing his persona to when Klopp first came in and how he instantly built a rapport with his squad, you could see that he oozed charisma.

Just watching Amorim and at least on a personable level, he comes across very likable. It was actually a very, very good interview and he said many things which were good to hear.
 
What I liked about the interview was the 'we think, our history' stuff. It would seem an obvious way for a new guy to plan to talk that way but it was very natural, like that's how he is actually thinking, straight from the off.
 
Christ, it's impossible to not like the man. I knew nothing about him till recently. Please god he is the one to turn our fortunes around. He's certainly the most likeable manager to walk through the doors in a long time. Has his work cut out though. Good luck to him.
 
Maagge said:
The weird thing is that Dutch people generally have really good English. But ten Hag surprised me with how limited his was. Was van Gaal similar?
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Didn't some of the Dutch folks used to describe him as the Dutch country bumpkin? Country accent and parochial.
 
Three things came against ETH:
1) disastrous Antony and Mount transfers
2) being stubborn tactically
3) selecting players not on merit, but based on favouritism

1) will have nothing to do with Amorim going forward, but it’s up to him to avoid 2) and 3) - let’s see.
 
Yakuza_devils said:
Mourinho and Amorim style of play is different. Amorim may have different way to bring out the best of Rashford. Gyokeres was an unknown and Amorim totally transformed him, just saying.

All I'm saying is, if Amorim would like to try Rashford as ST, no harm to let him try it out.
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Not doubting Amorin's credentials. But definitely doubting that Rashford will reinvent himself as a main striker for United. Mourinho and many others failed. You compared Gyo, but they both have different mentalities, one doesnt mind running and putting in a shift for his manager, while the other one just can't be bothered most of the time and has been part of teams that had no problem throwing managers under the bus. Not doing what was asked of them. He'll have to track back, work hard, not allow opposition players to run past him without even attempting a challenge, so lets see if he wants it.

Sink or swim.

I for one, would love to see the back of Rashy and he wouldnt be missed at all.
 
He had to start from a very bad position at Sporting and had to fill the gaps left by his quality players getting nicked by bigger clubs. That's one thing we have never had with previous managers post Sir Alex. Maybe Van Gaal was the closest when it comes into rebuilding but he was too much of an idealist. And to be fair we started seeing what he wanted us to be until he got the sack and replaced by Mourinho where all ideals were thrown away in favour of quick results. Amorim can do the rebuild AND is quite pragmatic with results but has an idea of what the team has to be. The recruitment team did very well this time to identify what the previous managers lacked.
 
Maagge said:
The weird thing is that Dutch people generally have really good English. But ten Hag surprised me with how limited his was. Was van Gaal similar?
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Ye LVG was quite similar. I think Koeman as decent English if I remember correctly.
 
Bo_devil said:
Not doubting Amorin's credentials. But definitely doubting that Rashford will reinvent himself as a main striker for United. Mourinho and many others failed. You compared Gyo, but they both have different mentalities, one doesnt mind running and putting in a shift for his manager, while the other one just can't be bothered most of the time and has been part of teams that had no problem throwing managers under the bus. Not doing what was asked of them. He'll have to track back, work hard, not allow opposition players to run past him without even attempting a challenge, so lets see if he wants it.

Sink or swim.

I for one, would love to see the back of Rashy and he wouldnt be missed at all.
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Again, let's give Amorim and Rashford a chance to try. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less. For all we all, they may surprise us!

In order for Amorim to do well, given our financial situation we basically can't sign any player, hence we need Rashford to be back on form.

Our attackers, Rashford, Hojlund, Amad, Garnacho, Bruno and Zirkzee all need to be back to their best for us to finish strong and hopefully Top 4
 
I feel kind of detached. There is little bit of cautious optimism but that's it. After ETH debacle my mind is just not ready yet. Wait and watch for now.
 
sglowrider said:
Didn't some of the Dutch folks used to describe him as the Dutch country bumpkin? Country accent and parochial.
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People wanted him out of Ajax for the first maybe 3 months because he was a provincial. Turned them into monsters and left a legend, however.
 
I was telling a friend the other day that his 3-4-2-1 is very similar to a formation I used on FM15 except that I had a single no.10 behind two strikers. I know it may sound weird but it almost feels like we’ll be playing that tactic I used, and it kinda excites me to see it in real life. I also used wingers out wide, not fullbacks.
 
Listened to a Podcast where Duncan Castles speaks to a Portuguese journalist about him and (briefly) Viana.

The journo was waxing lyrical about Amorim, about him being a genuinely decent man who gets players to really try for him.
Probably a bit like Ole with more tactical awareness.

I honestly think that Amorim will improve both United's team and attitude greatly when he finds his feet in the PL.

I think you've got this one right.
 
Gentleman Jim said:
Listened to a Podcast where Duncan Castles speaks to a Portuguese journalist about him and (briefly) Viana.

The journo was waxing lyrical about Amorim, about him being a genuinely decent man who gets players to really try for him.
Probably a bit like Ole with more tactical awareness.

I honestly think that Amorim will improve both United's team and attitude greatly when he finds his feet in the PL.

I think you've got this one right.
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Yep and we got a system in place where players won’t get away with mediocrity. With the people in place we are fully behind the manager. So if players don’t perform they will be the ones who are shipped out first. Amorim will be given time to get this right.
 
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Bo_devil said:
Not doubting Amorin's credentials. But definitely doubting that Rashford will reinvent himself as a main striker for United. Mourinho and many others failed. You compared Gyo, but they both have different mentalities, one doesnt mind running and putting in a shift for his manager, while the other one just can't be bothered most of the time and has been part of teams that had no problem throwing managers under the bus. Not doing what was asked of them. He'll have to track back, work hard, not allow opposition players to run past him without even attempting a challenge, so lets see if he wants it.

Sink or swim.

I for one, would love to see the back of Rashy and he wouldnt be missed at all.
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Don't be so sure.
We didn't have Gyökeres for the first 3 years, and while we didn't score as many goals as we did last season, we were still decent in attack.
When we had Tiago Tomás or Paulinho playing in that position, our style was a bit different, our offensive 3 switched around, they also pressed more.

Basically, don't look at Gyökeres as the type of player Amorim wants to be his striker. He won't have a problem making adjustments if different players give him what he wants.

FortunaUtd said:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rúben_Amorim

Guess they followed wikipedia as well as google. Are they wrong? Why is there an accent on the u in the title and not in the article?
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He adressed that on his last press conference.
His name doesn't have an accent.
It started when he was playing in Qatar, and he didn't really want to correct them at that time. It kind of stuck since then.

tenpoless said:
He had to start from a very bad position at Sporting and had to fill the gaps left by his quality players getting nicked by bigger clubs. That's one thing we have never had with previous managers post Sir Alex. Maybe Van Gaal was the closest when it comes into rebuilding but he was too much of an idealist. And to be fair we started seeing what he wanted us to be until he got the sack and replaced by Mourinho where all ideals were thrown away in favour of quick results. Amorim can do the rebuild AND is quite pragmatic with results but has an idea of what the team has to be. The recruitment team did very well this time to identify what the previous managers lacked.
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Our reality is different. Despite being a pretty big club, Sporting still has to sell players in order to grow and keep a positive cash-flow. Amorim knew that, which is why one of his focuses was precisely to develop young players, especially academy players, to sell them.
And while United won't have to worry about that, I suspect Amorim will still look at the academy as a way to improve the club identity, but also to bolster his squad without having to buy tons of players per position.
I don't expect him to go on the market for anything other than starting players.
 
Really like his previous work and he was my first choice as well, a little scared because Ten Hag was also the one I wanted before... There is clear difference in the demeanor, aura and the way Amorim conveys his message. If Ten Hag and Amorim say the same thing, it would come out 100 times better from Amorim.
Good luck and let's see that 343, can't wait for the Ipswich game.
 
Sporting4Ever said:
Don't be so sure.
We didn't have Gyökeres for the first 3 years, and while we didn't score as many goals as we did last season, we were still decent in attack.
When we had Tiago Tomás or Paulinho playing in that position, our style was a bit different, our offensive 3 switched around, they also pressed more.

Basically, don't look at Gyökeres as the type of player Amorim wants to be his striker. He won't have a problem making adjustments if different players give him what he wants.



He adressed that on his last press conference.
His name doesn't have an accent.
It started when he was playing in Qatar, and he didn't really want to correct them at that time. It kind of stuck since then.



Our reality is different. Despite being a pretty big club, Sporting still has to sell players in order to grow and keep a positive cash-flow. Amorim knew that, which is why one of his focuses was precisely to develop young players, especially academy players, to sell them.
And while United won't have to worry about that, I suspect Amorim will still look at the academy as a way to improve the club identity, but also to bolster his squad without having to buy tons of players per position.
I don't expect him to go on the market for anything other than starting players.
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Do you think Amorim will implement his 343 from day one, or will it be more gradual?
 
A first impression may mean little but it can be the start of everything. Defending his players, playing without fear and maintaining a clear identity. Amorim has a clear vision. But with Rashford, Shaw and Maguire still in the mix I find myself torn between doubts and fears. Despite, I still have hope.
 
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