Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach | Thread locked during matches

Give him a fecking striker. We controlled the game but never looked like scoring
 
stepic said:
One day people may realise that our two wingbacks play as forwards in attack.
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Hopefully on the same day, those same people realise that those are not the players we want in the positions we find them in.
 
Played well, players couldn’t make enough out of the possession or the positions we found in attack. No point complaining as as know there’s a lack of quality in attack so we move on. Hopefully next season we have some better technicians finding those positions around the oppositions box and we’ll be far more dangerous.
 
Unfortunately this Forest side are tailor made to beat us at the moment - they play in a low block and look to hit on the counter, and we don't have the footballing ability to play through them, nor the physicality to press high and force turnovers, and those traits also combine to leave us really vulnerable on the counter.
 
Dion said:
He's made the change everyone was begging for at half time.

I think people probably need to remind themselves he's been here less than 6 months, he' still learning the league and his players.
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Which change?
 
The point @Amar__ is making is absolutely correct. And the idea that you can’t be defensive despite winning possession is nonsense. The 5-3-2 is fundamentally a defensive setup, especially when you play conventional full-backs out wide as has been Amorim’s clear preference. It means we spend a lot of time recycling possession between three CB’s who are parked in our half, it means we have too many men behind the ball while in possession, and it means we’re often lacking numbers up front. It’s not a controversial take and it’s not difficult to see. There’s a reason we score so few goals under Amorim; he is the most defensive manager we’ve had based on what we’ve seen so far. I don’t even see how it’s debatable.
 
Disappointing, has to roll the dice a bit more and go direct earlier I think + does anyone know why Maz/Yoro keep switching sides (surely Maz should be RCB) and why Garnacho was not made to play on the right?
 
Don’t see point in blaming this game on Amorim or the system. Our attacking players are second rate and no manager or system will change that, especially in the short term.
 
If we get the majority of our recruitment (and sales) right in the summer I think next season will be a lot more positive as things are slowly taking a better shape, I think.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
He's the only pace we have, even when he's absolutely crap
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He isn't though, Dorgu for starters is quicker.

Garnacho offers nothing, we have to distort the system and force our wing back to play centrally in order to accommodate him, and in return we get a bunch of wayward shots, awful crosses, and the occasional overhit pass.
 
Forest didn't do anything after scoring on the counter.
We hit the post, goalline clearance and 20+ shots.
Garnacho has been awful today, wasted so many opportunities.

I guess people who weren't around in the last month and a half are going to spam this thread now.
 
redom said:
If we get the majority of our recruitment (and sales) right in the summer I think next season will be a lot more positive as things are slowly taking a better shape, I think.
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Very good match from us. Things are looking better.
 
Jev said:
The point @Amar__ is making is absolutely correct. And the idea that you can’t be defensive despite winning possession is nonsense. The 5-3-2 is fundamentally a defensive setup, especially when you play conventional full-backs out wide as has been Amorim’s clear preference. It means we spend a lot of time recycling possession between three CB’s who are parked in our half, it means we have too many men behind the ball while in possession, and it means we’re often lacking numbers up front. It’s not a controversial take and it’s not difficult to see. There’s a reason we score so few goals under Amorim; he is the most defensive manager we’ve had based on what we’ve seen so far, I don’t even see how it’s debatable.
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It's basically LvG style football
 
redom said:
If we get the majority of our recruitment (and sales) right in the summer I think next season will be a lot more positive as things are slowly taking a better shape, I think.
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Not asking for much then.
 
I only saw the last 25/30 minutes but we were actually really good. Desperately unlucky at the end (brilliant defending from Murillo) but we created loads and constantly looked a threat.

With performances like that week-in-week-out, I'm confident we'll be much closer to where we want to be next season. Things have generally been looking quite a bit better of late and I didn't see anything in those last 30 minutes to suggest we'd reverted to type.
 
It says it all about our forward line when Maguire looks far more threatening up top than all of them. This squad is horrendous.
 
Nero said:
We were the better team against a team widely considered to be much better than us. That won't stop the toxicity here though.
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Some sane views are really important in this thread…
If we won the way nottingham did today the would call it rightfully embarrassing and that we would have deswrved to lose
 
chris123 said:
Honestly think we have played extremely well tonight. And league results at this point are so meaningless, that performances are all I care about. And our style of play and understanding of the system is so clearly developing, and that's all that matters. We keep on this current trajectory, a few more players get healthy, we probably at least have a shot in the Europa which I wouldn't have said a month ago.
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Yep. The style of play is clear to see. We need some big upgrades in attack in the summer.
 
We weren't direct enough today but we were in the last few games. I liked his ballsy move to just put Maguire up top because Forrest really struggled to deal with it.
 
Leftback99 said:
It says it all about our forward line when Maguire looks far more threatening up top than all of them. This squad is horrendous.
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Alternative interpretation is that we actually had more numbers forward without being rooted to 3 at the back.
 
Awful tonight, clear Garnacho was appalling tonight and Dorgu giving the ball away numerous times in the 2nd half, and both lasted 96 minutes

His stubbornness to change tactics shows he's not a top level manager, and this is a feature across all levels, you can't just win with one tactic or formation unless you're the very best, otherwise you'll get found out eventually or never get going like us

ETH has a lot to answer for with the crap he brought in, but right now Ruben is taking us back even further, we are not as bad as the table suggests and honestly believe we'd be higher if we stuck with ETH (not that I don't think he shouldn't have been sacked)
 
Jev said:
The point @Amar__ is making is absolutely correct. And the idea that you can’t be defensive despite winning possession is nonsense. The 5-3-2 is fundamentally a defensive setup, especially when you play conventional full-backs out wide as has been Amorim’s clear preference. It means we spend a lot of time recycling possession between three CB’s who are parked in our half, it means we have too many men behind the ball while in possession, and it means we’re often lacking numbers up front. It’s not a controversial take and it’s not difficult to see. There’s a reason we score so few goals under Amorim; he is the most defensive manager we’ve had based on what we’ve seen so far. I don’t even see how it’s debatable.
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Disagree with this take, at least the part about it being the reason we don't score.

IMO we don't score because our forward players simply aren't good enough. I cant think of many teams in the league that have a much less lethal set of forwards.
 
Raoul said:
Agreed. Plenty of chances created, just no one to put them away.
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Plenty of chances? Can't think of any decent chance really. Our best chances were some shots outside the box and headers from weak crosses that are difficult to score from. We really only looked threatening when the ball was close to Casemiro or Maguire. None of our actual attackers bothered Forest one bit.

They did their homework by focusing on Bruno, doing their usual counter attacking routine that they've done all season but still surprised us somehow and sat back and enjoyed their defending. It probably played out close to exactly like Espirito Santo drew it up.
 
We need to win EL or else we will be stuck with Hojlund up top for another season
 
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