Willy Rider sounds like a dodgy western themed adult DVD you'd find at the back of a Chinese shop on holiday in Spain
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Willy Rider sounds like a dodgy western themed adult DVD you'd find at the back of a Chinese shop on holiday in Spain
The parallels to Pep are on the nose, this would read like his own backstory just swapped with being Spanish rather than Portuguese
Last time Amorim played against United, Jonny Evans scored against them 
And Now Amorim will come to manage Jonny Insane
And Now Amorim will come to manage Jonny InsaneWhich of the youngsters do you see getting a chance under him just out of interest?
Even though it's been an historically bad start for United in the league, the inconsistency of the other teams (bar the Scousers, annoyingly) means we're only 4 points off top 4.
So I'm wondering if the remainder of the season is going to be the "free hit" for Ruben that people are saying, where he can experiment with different players and systems to the potential detriment of results. Or is he going to come under pressure from the club (and fans!) to be pragmatic and get results at all costs in order to achieve this coveted top 4 spot?
Do we as fans have the patience to sacrifice a top 4 push this season for the potential longer term benefit of the team?
So I'm wondering if the remainder of the season is going to be the "free hit" for Ruben that people are saying, where he can experiment with different players and systems to the potential detriment of results. Or is he going to come under pressure from the club (and fans!) to be pragmatic and get results at all costs in order to achieve this coveted top 4 spot?
Do we as fans have the patience to sacrifice a top 4 push this season for the potential longer term benefit of the team?
Big plus that he was fully clothed as well.
And Cinema.Yes it does because English is a stupid mongrel language.
INE can make an AYN sound like spine or it can make a EEN sound.
For example, Marine. It’s not pronounced Mah-rhyn, it’s Mahreen.
Just to be extra confusing INE can also say IN-EE as in Aborigine, or also simple IN sound as in adrenaline.
Make of that what you will! Written language is hard!
Call him anything but Ruby. If his nickname is Ruby I'm gonna lose my mind.
@rimaldo wasn't enthused by that apparently
I don't think there's ever truly such a thing as a 'free hit' at United. Even when the expectations are depressed as they have been, there will always be pressure to deliver results, and rightly so.
Amorim will need to at least have elements of pragmatism if he wants to be successful here, and to be fair to him I'm sure he's already done that with Sporting to get them where they are. It's nice to talk about systems but a coach's primary responsibility is to improve and get the best out of the players they have at their disposal, at least until the club are able to sign the players who can execute the game plan to a higher level.
We got the balance of that horribly wrong with Ten Hag, who was given him far too much license to sign who he liked and play how he wanted, irrespective of results or competitiveness in matches. I'd like to think those mistakes won't be repeated and the next coach will take a bit more accountability if he sees the system he's trying to implement isn't working.
Brighton’s manager is showing that age doesn't matter when coaching. Aslong as you get the respect from the players which I’m sure Amorim will. I think they’ll love him.
Ruby, Ruby, Ruby, Ruby
Do you, do you, do you, do you
Know what you're doing, doing, to me?
Ruby, Ruby, Ruby, Ruby
Maybe, but only because football is a bit old fashioned and stuck in its ways. In any other profession 39 isn't considered particularly young. Numerous people have won nobel prizes before they reach 30. There's no reason that there can't be plenty of brilliant young coaches out there who are capable of winning the biggest trophies if given a chance
It's already made me sick in my mouth seeing people saying it on here.
OK judy
Exactly three, with one being the peace one
As someone who has loved to give every single player an Ole like name maybe I'm reaping what I sow with my piss taking. Rubeny is fine however. With a Portuguese accent.Complete side point, but I do wonder if this a result of a few hundred years of shifting cultures and peoples. Anglo Saxon, Latin, Dane (Viking), French, Germanic, Irish, Scottish, Gaelic, Welsh all mixing at some point or another. Being a history nerd (and Assassins Creed geek) I learned the other day during the Viking Age in Ireland, around Dublin there was Irish, Gaelic and Viking languages being used often, with words and meanings changings and shifting across them. Same in Scotland later under Robert the Bruce, where you had Gaelic, Scots, English and French all being used across the board. This largely happened after the Roman Age and all the way through until probably around the time of the War of the Roses. English was the 'free thinking' language, using a lot of words and meanings from others. I honestly don't think this was the case say, in Spain or Portugal or France where much of the same language was used consistently. So English became a very broad and difficult language to master.Yes it does because English is a stupid mongrel language.
INE can make an AYN sound like spine or it can make a EEN sound.
For example, Marine. It’s not pronounced Mah-rhyn, it’s Mahreen.
Just to be extra confusing INE can also say IN-EE as in Aborigine, or also simple IN sound as in adrenaline.
Make of that what you will! Written language is hard!
Sorry
it's a period in history I think about often and I am fascinated by the way cultures in Britain changed often after the Roman Age.From what I read, old english was spoken with every letters pronounced, as if a French was speaking englishComplete side point, but I do wonder if this a result of a few hundred years of shifting cultures and peoples. Anglo Saxon, Latin, Dane (Viking), French, Germanic, Irish, Scottish, Gaelic, Welsh all mixing at some point or another. Being a history nerd (and Assassins Creed geek) I learned the other day during the Viking Age in Ireland, around Dublin there was Irish, Gaelic and Viking languages being used often, with words and meanings changings and shifting across them. Same in Scotland later under Robert the Bruce, where you had Gaelic, Scots, English and French all being used across the board. This largely happened after the Roman Age and all the way through until probably around the time of the War of the Roses. English was the 'free thinking' language, using a lot of words and meanings from others. I honestly don't think this was the case say, in Spain or Portugal or France where much of the same language was used consistently. So English became a very broad and difficult language to master.
Sorry
Indeed, I remember an old lecturer saying that in Olde English you had to mean what you say when writing too, therefore what was written was very precise and particular and then how you spoke it was the same way. Bloody difficult language but fascinating I find.
Don't forget your 'Hail Ruben' sign.
You'll be 10 minutes behind everyone else though?
Mainly because most footballers don’t retire until mid 30’s. Of course they take some of those mental skills into management but it is like starting a new career.
The picture of Amorim meeting Shaw is hilarious. Needs no captions, the look says it all.
Yep, and it's the same rehashed/recycled points which were raised here 4/5/6/7 years ago like 99% of the time as well!So many still bitter and want to argue about Ole!
Rejoice! Ruben is here, let’s look forwards!
Last time Amorim played against United, Jonny Evans scored against them
Holy shit, this was the game at uni where I put on Braga HT United FT because United were CONSTANTLY (so it seemed) going down at half time. Remember it vividly.
So weird that a Braga defender from that game is now our manager.
I think we'll see more of the current batch initially
And I wouldn't be surprised to see the emergence of Obi-Martin, Mantato and others later on this season
Expecting him to be pragmatic would be counter productive in the long-term. Pep, klopp and Arteta (the 3 leading managers in the PL over the last 5 years) all refused to change their system and experienced teething problems at the start performing in the league below the expected standard for them. What was key though was that the signs of progression and their system being implemented by the team were on display and that as they recruited more players better suited to it that results would improve.
We have hired Amorim off the back of the work he has done at Sporting where he plays a very specific system and this is what we should expect him to deliver here. The time to see pragmatism is if it's clear that this isn't going to be a success system/tactic and then he needs to make the adjustments necessary to be a success here.
His sporting philosophy may not work here, the majority of the players may not suit and may need moving on to get players in who are. I'd rather find that out this season, than finding it out next season and we're in a similar position next year.
For people who follow Portuguese football, has Amorims rise been more spectacular than AVBs was? In other words is Amorim more likely to succeed than AVB in English football?
You're the one who brought Ole up in the first place and then wonder why people have a problem comparing someone who managed in Norway to someone managing in Portugal.So many still bitter and want to argue about Ole!
Rejoice! Ruben is here, let’s look forwards!
A league winning manager is a league winning manager, regardless of location and yet so many are still falling over themselves to talk Ole down. All I did was draw a fair comparison. Both league winners in their own countries, both went into struggling clubs and rebuilt them and turn around their fortunes.
For all we know Ruben might flop hard in the prem- most managers have a difficult job/period because of the nature of their position. Klopp was relegated with Mainz in 2007, but nobody says it makes him a bad coach.
Ruben has done well with SCP no doubt, but the prem is a totally different ball game, and the pressure and interest of leading United will be relentless in a way he’s never experienced before.
Yes.
AVB stayed in Porto only one season as head coach (2010/11). Before his arrival Porto had won 4 consecutive championships (between 2005 and 2009) and had lost the 2010 title to Benfica.
So he had a fantastic year (undefeated in the Portuguese league and winning 4 titles including the Europa league) but started with a team used to winning. He stayed only one year as Porto´s head coach.
Amorim started in March 2020 with Sporting after 18 years without winning the championship.
He had to rebuild the squad and won the 2021 and 2024 championships. In 2022 he finished 2nd with the same points of 2021 - 86/102 - but Porto broke the point record with 91/102.
So AVB was a one year wonder with a team that was used to winning and Amorim had a 4,5 years consolidated job rebuilding a team with huge history but not used to winning for almost 20 years before his arrival.
Slightly adjusted..I like the song.
But he shouldn't be called Ruby
Stop your messing around (Luke-Shaw)
Better think of your future (Rash-ford)
Time you straighten right out (Hoj-lund)
Creating problems in town (Sanchoooo)
Ruby
A message to you, from Ruby
A message to you from Ruby
This narrative that every manager we’ve had since Fergie is clueless, is toxic.
There are no bad managers in PL, it’s the top of the food chain.
Shaw as one of the options for lcb will keep him fresher, less running. Ten Hag played him there and said that as well, when Shaw was coming back from injury.
Very reassuring that. I think on a surface level they look similar in terms of age and achievements but yeah enough differences that it should pan out differently.
Hopefully Ruben can enter his "Special One" phase now.