Good post. We have to back Amorim 100%. Another good post I came across online:
I'm Portuguese. Growing up, people always referred to Porto, Benfica and Sporting as "the big 3" here in Portugal, but throughout my life Sporting had always been a level below Porto and Benfica. They had last won the league back in the 2001/2002 season, I was too little to even remember it because I was born in 1997. I remember questioning throughout the years "why is Sporting even mentioned as one of the big 3 anymore?", until Amorim took over. I cannot overstate how big of an impact he had at that club. Sporting was finally able to win the league under his management and the team he managed to build was genuinely quite outstanding, considering the low budgets Portuguese teams have to work with.
As big of a club as United is, the truth is that right now being a United coach is a pretty mean life. It is not a job that many would want. High risk, low reward. Amorim had Champions League football at Sporting and under his guide they were still the best team in the league, he could've won another league title this year and had a good run in Europe as well. The writing was already on the wall, Sporting was clearly going to dominate Portugal this season if he had stayed. He could've waited another season and gotten a job at another big club elsewhere.
I believe Amorim is at United for all the right reasons. I really believe he wants to challenge himself and that he wants to do right by your club. This is being said by a Porto fan, by the way. So there is no bias here. He is a genuinely good manager and I wholeheartedly believe everything he does is for the good of the club. I've already seen a few United fans turning on him for the way he treated Rashford, claiming that it was personal. It's just not true, he's not like that, and the fans have to stop being so empathetic towards a player who has been in the top 10 highest earners in the Premier League for years whilst not even having been able to break 10 G/A last season. United are already struggling financially as it is, and they're having to pay over 300k a week to a player who apparently can't even be bothered to give his best in training. Regardless of how talented he is and how much you love him, the reality is that Rashford's contract was a one sided deal that benefited only him, and the portion of the fanbase that's claiming "he dedicated his life to this club!" seem to almost be implying that he had done so for free and out of the kindness of his heart, and also seem to never question whether the club had been getting their money's worth, which they absolutely haven't.
Regardless of what happens this season, United have to back him. You have to stop being stuck in this endless loop of swapping managers because it should be clear by now that there is no man on this planet that can singlehandedly turn this club around by himself, certainly not overnight. Give him time, give him a few years. Stop panicking everytime the team loses, he hasn't had a chance to buy the players he needs and is having to work with a team built by several different managers who had different play styles. The squad is a complete mess at the moment.
You need to trust the process. Know that Amorim is a good manager, know that you made a good decision in picking him up and know that things may get a lot worse before they get better. If the fanbase doesn't fully commit to a manager and immediately resorts to putting pressure on the board to sack him every time he goes on a series of bad results, United will be forever stuck in limbo.
I tend to agree with 65% of this post we do need to see this through and back the coach but he needs to stop tinkering with the team and find his best team and stick to it. I don’t subscribe to the players are all awful, Onana played in a CL final a few years ago and was widely considered man of the match, Mazroui, MDL, Maguire, Yoro and Martinez (Before injury) are all Elite Defenders.
Bruno, Eriksen, Casemiro all aging but you start one and have one or two from the bench, Ugarte and Collyer mobile and tiger ish, our real issue is all of our attacking and creative players, the ones that score and create goals are young inexperienced players.
Zirkzee could be great if he settles, he finds clever pockets of space, Rasmus is better than what he’s shown this season. Amad, Kobbie and Garnaucho all have elite potential but they need time and the managers love, I’m not sure they are getting much from Ruben?
We lack a 26-27 year old leader in Midfield, a 26-28 year old CF who leads the attack, and one more number 10. Rashford could and should have taken his last chance at United, with how threadbare we are as a club, he should have been that leader in attack but he’s not because he's brittle mentally and Amorim was right to call him out, however he probably thought he could get rid of him and get someone in.
That decision could and should have waited til the summer, Antony going was a good move he has no end product in the EPL.
The club is desperately hoping to find two potential leaders in Shaw and Mount and hope they come back soon and influence the season’s final games. #clutching at straws
Ruben is not proven in English Football, he didn’t do what Jose did with Porto and win a EUFA Cup then a Champion’s league, he’s clever and could be seriously great but let’s not kid ourselves, he’s making a lot of mistakes with team selection and he’s not reading the room right to allow him to manipulate players for the short term, the mid term and the long term.
I suspect he’s highly strung with a Latin temperament but you can’t call your players shit every week and expect them to perform, you can’t say your 63 year old goal keeping coach offer more than Rashford who needs a different approach. Yes Rashford should go, but he could have gone in the summer after playing well for us to get a Barcelona move, now if Garnaucho or Amad gets injured, then what?
We could have really threatened the FA Cup and Europa league with the right 3 or 4 out in January and the right 2 in, we needy a striker in the mid 20’s who could handle the pressure of this club.
We should as a club, under no circumstances sack RA unless the club is relegated, however Omar Berrada who brought him needs to sit down with him and tell him to reign in the comments, he’s too honest for his own good and the 8 Games he’s lost yes 40% overall and 54% in the EPL means he need to improve and look at himself rather than calling out the squad all the time.
He needs to be told that there is 60-80m for summer if we don’t qualify for Europe and he would have had 27 games to qualify for Europe if he averaged 2 points per game he would have qualified for the CL but when you average 1.1 points per game per game your team is mid to bottom 5 in the table
I also don’t like all of the stupid comments ;
“worst team in history”
“Players don’t know the correct distances to start and move”
“I don’t want to win a cup competition it masks over the real problems”
How about shut up Ruben and concentrate on wining 1 of the 2 cup competitions your in instead of making up an excuse already as to why your not capable of coaching this squad to win a trophy!
ETH won two trophies, even Ole should have won a trophy and got to a major European final, because if you win the FA Cup, the club plays Europa League and you might have £100-150m to spend and if you win Europa League, the club will have £200m+ to spend, however when you’ve called your players the worst in history, I very much doubt they will go the extra mile for you.
And for context in the last 25 years of both domestic cup competitions which is a total of domestic cup 50 trophies, not league titles but domestic cups United have won more than any other English team with
9 from
50.
City 8, Chelsea 8, Liverpool 7, Arsenal 7, Spurs 2( the Same as Leicester!)
So the so called big 6 have won 41 of 50 domestic cups from 1999 to 2024.
We want to win a cup, we like wining trophies and as fans we don’t care how you do it, you can be cold and efficient like Jose, Structured like LVG with a 3 at the back system or produce a masterclass 4222 system like ETH we don’t care how but we do care that you should care, because wining a trophy at United when 4 of the favourites are out is a great opportunity.
