literally nothing clear about that.Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
literally nothing clear about that.Exactly. The class of 92 managed, as did Rooney, Ronaldo and many more. You either develop the elite mentality needed through hardwork or you feck off elsewhere.
Thought the same.
Not the only one you took straight from there. They also suggested Douglas Luiz and Pablo Barrios.
Bollocking for what exactly?
If that was the case, then we will stay in this mess for a long time.
This team need a shock and they got it, if they cant take it..well they can move on.
People keep saying this but it's absolute nonsense. Even if we weren't skint, we'd start next season with 75% of this season's players.
That’s not what I said.
Luiz and Nunes would be superb signings.
You can't seriously tell me we hired him without this being discussed
Would it surprise you? They may have known about three at the back, but also his dogmatism?
It's hilarious how people constantly underestimate how difficult it is to do a squad overhaul unless you pull off the Chelsea or Man City model with loads of cash available. We don't have that.
I don't agree.
Care to elaborate?
I used to think that Matheus Nunes could have been a good signing, when he was at Sporting. What he has done, since coming to England, hasn't been convincing at all. Douglas Luiz would only make sense, if he was a bargain, considering how his Juventus spell has gone so far. Plus, there are a number of players that I'd prefer.
The speed at which the club backed him to bin the big names I'm sure he was hired for a cultural revolution as much as tactics or formations. The best players need formations to shine, ours seem to need them to do the basics on 200,000pw. Don't think people actually knew what that long fabled clear out was going to look like. It's here and they want us to hold on so we can go back to getting Rashford and Garnacho their one breakaway goal per month.
Fair enough he's had succes with 3421.
But does that mean he will never play another formation in his career? Quite extreme.
But does that mean he will never play another formation in his career? Quite extreme.
While I agree this inflexibility is weird, it's not that uncommon that a manager would play 4-2-3-1 wherever he goes
How many 4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3 managers change wherever they go very rarely
Which is a statistically far more proven and succesful formation, more acquainted with most (top) footballers and probably for a reason.
But I guess you make a point.
Yeah also fair point!
What's the point of this?
Look I totally support him over the players but it was crystal clear he had been given a dressing down over what he said about being the worst team.
He was completely on the back foot during the press conference
I worry the media are going to break him. The pre-match for Rangers it constantly felt like they were trying to catch him out, fecking vultures.
I'm am pretty sure he would have said he's doing things his way, his system.
I am also pretty sure that's what we would have wanted.
You can probably tell I fully support Amorim from my username, but I think there was no need to come out and justify or clarify anything to the press. Just double down and say "how can anyone possibly disagree that this is the worst Man United teams of recent years - look the table, goals scored, goal difference etc. - it is up to the players to prove me wrong."
This is generally an issue with a lot of honest people. They assume that other people are honest too. Those are vultures in the media room, Amorim, and they are waiting to put the knife in.
This is generally an issue with a lot of honest people. They assume that other people are honest too. Those are vultures in the media room, Amorim, and they are waiting to put the knife in.
I’m sure Fergie said those exact same words to Giggs, Scholes, Becks, Ron and Rooney behind closed doors. All the while watching over them like a KGB agent and keeping them away from media and away from night clubs to protect them from their weak mentalities.
I don't think he backtracked. He never meant it like that. I thought I was slow reading everyone take it a certain way because it was always clear he was very clearly talking about the collective vis a vis his managerial performance. He started and finished with his record and his insistence on his formation. 'We are the worst, me included'.
Well, maybe so. Still, it’s important to remember that when you talk at a press conference, you are talking to several different people at once. You are talking to the tabloid vultures just looking for an angle to bite. At the same time you’re talking to a few senior journalist whom you know might write something to buy you a few weeks extra time if you help them see what’s really going on. Simultaneously you are talking to thousands of fans who might back you in the stadium at 0-1 down to Sot’on or slaughter you on SoMe while your insecure and narcissist players gulp it down. And you’re also talking to your insecure and narcissistic players and to the people who will meet them at the butchers, in the street, or in their home, either pestering them with despondent looks and questions or bigging them up like they just scored a hat trick vs Brighton really, or at lest would have if the gaffer only didn’t cramp your style.
It’s neigh on impossible to hit the sweet spots or even avvoid crashing like a bull in a china shop into some of these needs at a press conference. The smartest thing might well be to be measuredly honest while trying to make a show of protecting your players as individuals while maybe also lighting the torch under their arses as a group.
Solskjær did this part of the job impressingly well, Van Gaal too in his idisyncratic way. Mou always draws the attention away from the players and onto himself, until he imploded in paranoid personal attacks on 19 year old kids no holds barred. Ten Hag did boringly well for a very long time.
What they all find out, though, is none of it matters a dingo’s kidney if the team loses a few too many games, at which everyone will just tag along with the vultures regardless. That breaks everyone after a while.
Swap Van der Sar for Schmeichel and Ruud for Van Persie and you'd have an even better team.
Not sure if he got heat from higher ups, but when journalists pressured him, he started apologizing and saying "I am young manager and I make mistakes"
I must admit, I hated that. You are not a toddler, you are Manchester United head coach. You made a decision - do not apologize for it. Has anybody ever seen Sir Alex apologize for anything? He has made ton of mistakes, but never an apology. Gotta be in charge, right or wrong - it is part of the f..ing job. And before anybody starts "it was a different time" - no it wasn't. When has anybody ever seen Pep apologize for anything?
Everybody makes mistakes, and it is not even a fact that Ruben was wrong. We are f..ing bottom of the league, if you said we are horrible, stop apologizing
Proper mental it's Jan 23rd and haven't improved the squad.
Should be getting 2 in if no one of use leaves.
3 in minimum if Garnacho leaves. Clocks ticking.
Manager needs to be backed
Should be getting 2 in if no one of use leaves.
3 in minimum if Garnacho leaves. Clocks ticking.
Manager needs to be backed
Football doesn't evolve every 2-3 years or Pep would be fossilized by now.