Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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It's not that different from what we did with the previous guy in charge...
For those clinging on to the hope of Top 4 or a cup win….why do you do this to yourselves?
We aren’t finishing higher than mid table. It’s not about the time we have left to “catch-up”. It’s about the lack of quality players at this club fuelled by the abhorrent recruitment decisions we’ve made over the last decade.
We aren’t finishing higher than mid table. It’s not about the time we have left to “catch-up”. It’s about the lack of quality players at this club fuelled by the abhorrent recruitment decisions we’ve made over the last decade.
Bit of an exaggeration, don’t you think? The fact is, both are wingers, and improving the team’s balance would naturally lead to scoring more and conceding less. Right now, the balance just isn’t there, with a right-footed left wing-back and a left-footed right wing-back. It’s a setup that disrupts the team’s fluidity on both ends of the pitch.
5 wins from 15 games is absolutely mental.
Edit: wrong thread! Not his fault
Edit: wrong thread! Not his fault
And the storm/struggle begins. I expected days like this but still hard when it happens. Feel like listening to some underground hip hop. The streets be feeling it.
Very true. Its all mental, which doesn't paint a very flattering picture of ETH's time here.
That approach was correct but the recruitment was not. It we don’t fix our recruitment no coach can save us.
Was always going to be a rough start, but all we can do is keep the faith.
I like some aspects of his setup, and he has a distinct style of play he’s trying to implement. But it’s clear he’ll need help off the field and in the transfer market. Whether he gets that at this dysfunctional club is a huge question mark; it’s the part of the process I have the least faith in.
I like some aspects of his setup, and he has a distinct style of play he’s trying to implement. But it’s clear he’ll need help off the field and in the transfer market. Whether he gets that at this dysfunctional club is a huge question mark; it’s the part of the process I have the least faith in.
They were absolutely bottlers before ETH as well.
Some of these players are broken and beyond repair in a utd shirt.
Because they are not being coached properly. Bruno has been a liability for ages.
Gone are the days of the fabled “new manager bounce” …we’ve hit rock bottom and are now ploughing our way underground to reach new depths of decay. Hope Amorim’s love football and career doesn’t get decimated by this poorly run club.
He did the same as Amorim? He was direct and took them head on + eventually they broke him. Amorim will end up the same unless Ineos are decisive in the summer.
Ohh common what a ridiculous comment
Come on. You don't need to be coached to not play a silly, risky one two in your own half when you know the opposition are pressing and early in a second half. It's brainless.
I wish the answer was that simple. There is a mental malaise plaguing this club. Psychologically these players are defeated even before kicking a ball.
Yes, but this time let's wait for him to implement a system first before blowing another 600m & then being at the same junction again 2 seasons later.
In his first season, Klopp couldn't get consistent results either. However, the performances inproved consistently and you could see a semblance of a plan on the pitch. One could notice considerable improvement in Liverpool's playing style even with the shit players he had in his first season. You could see his vision on the field.
The same needs to happen here too with Ruben. We need to see things on the pitch that gives us the confidence that things will improve with better signings.
I believe in him & think he is man, but he has to make the team show much more performance wise for us to he confident that he is the right guy and we need to blow 200m in the window on the players or positions he identifies.
Oh my god
talk about an overreaction!Half the squad are players ETH wanted, so its hard to make a believable argument he wasn't complicit in his own demise.
I know I know, stick to your ideas and all, but can we play the principles with a different shape, for example Dalot is no threat on the left as a wing back and neither Garnacho or Rashford are comfortable in between the lines.
We don't have the tools to make this work, it's a great idea but he'll need to make certain signings to make it click.
A 4-2-3-1 were Amad is allowed to roam off the right and Mazraoui bumps forward from the right.
We don't have the tools to make this work, it's a great idea but he'll need to make certain signings to make it click.
A 4-2-3-1 were Amad is allowed to roam off the right and Mazraoui bumps forward from the right.
You make it sound like we played well in these last 18 months with 4231.
I don't think it is. I'm not participating in the Man Utd manager boom and bust cycle again.
I like the guy, I hope he succeeds (obviously). He's certainly more charismatic than any other post Fergie coach we've had except Mourinho.
I'm just being realistic.
The messiah complex United fans have about managers is what leads to false expectations. I can still remember thinking we were the dog's b-ks after we knocked Barcelona out of the Europa League under Ten Hag.
I can see a lot of plusses from what Amorim has done so far. You can see, structurally, what he is trying to achieve. He seems to be able to get it across too and, you know, he may well figure out how to get us attacking well and defending well. But I'm just going to go off what I'm seeing.
The changes today weren't great. We certainly didn't lose because of him. No manager sends their team out to defend so terribly and use the ball so wimpishly. But he didn't positively effect the game either. I'm not going to gloss over that because my job now is to stand by our new manager. Been there, done that.
He definitely was, but this group pre ETH still had these problems. It’s like players join and there’s some culture there that saps away at their combative side. ETH had to deal with a lot of crap with clearing out the squad and I do think the replacements bar Antony are generally much better in terms of attitude/workrate etc. but the hard thing now is replacing Rashford and Bruno.
I agree and I hope he'll be able to hold his nerve, as we're already on the bottom half of the table and certainly capable of falling away even further.
I pin my hope on the fact that he's already proven capable of navigating a similar situation in the similar landscape of sporting and portugese football where I'd imagine expectations are akin to united.
Would he consider do we think a 433? Whilst keeping his core football philosophy as it were.
Just need to give the man time. He’s taken over a group of players that just aren’t good enough to carry the United name unfortunately.
Crap result today though there are still positives in the way he’s coaching us, I actually thought we were pretty good in the first half today after their goal before it went badly wrong in the second.
Crap result today though there are still positives in the way he’s coaching us, I actually thought we were pretty good in the first half today after their goal before it went badly wrong in the second.
We've been massive bottlers since Ole, and there are still players here from that era which says it all.
I know it shouldn't matter....I know.... But I really doubt being told that you're shite at every opportunity by your own fans helps our players either. But I digress...
Can't believe there's eejits in here righting him off already! Actually, wait, no it's exactly what I thought would happen because this forum is full of negative twats.
Can't judge this manager too much because he took over a proper shitshow.
The problem with 3-5-2 is you're asking players to play in unfamiliar positions which requires a level of intelligence. This squad is genuinely the dumbest group of football players I've ever seen.
The problem with 3-5-2 is you're asking players to play in unfamiliar positions which requires a level of intelligence. This squad is genuinely the dumbest group of football players I've ever seen.
We did not. But Dalot at LWB is not working and will not work. 3 CBs passing the ball between themselves is not a joy to watch either and we still leak goals and chances far too easily. Amorim obviously needs a lot of time and new players but he has had limited impact so far with 4 points in 4 games.
Garnacho has been playing like a dumpster fire these last few games. He’s not the answer to anything, any time soon, that’s for damn sure.
If you could get him drunk in the pub and you could get him to tell you who out of the current squad of players he would keep, I wonder who it would be. Amad, Maz + Ugarte and maybe Yoro because he is young. That about it?
Mental.
This wouldnt be a good idea at all because some idiot would just tell the press what was said and it'll be all over the papers the next day
I did think people might jump to the whole formation excuse if things weren't going well, but I expected it more from the media and ex players who'd go on about the glory days of 4-4-2 and all that. We've played 4-2-3-1 for years and it's really not been any better and as you said, today's goals had little to do with the formation. Let's give it time.
Not just chatting about the formation but there's some folk saying that they always knew that it wouldn't work. Unfortunately they never put this into writing at any point until now - but they were definitely thinking it, honest.
Maybe Mainoo too but yeah that's about it