Absolutely spot on around 4min 30 saying that the first thing the fans want to see is players actually putting in the effort.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Absolutely spot on around 4min 30 saying that the first thing the fans want to see is players actually putting in the effort.
The media really are hoping he says something bad against Rashford. He hasn't helped himself but the spotlight on Rashford is massive and everything he does is analysed by fans and media. Good to see him protecting his players where he can.
Enjoyed that.
What do rival fans think of him? Is it red tinted glasses to think he comes across ridiculously likable?
I understand it’s not a dig at Amorim and that you’re not advocating naivety. It’s all fair to not like the way we played.
I think it is very difficult, when you watch a game and notice something lacking, to know wether it’s due to the coaching instructions or due to the player, wether it’s due to attitude, to confidence, to ability or to the counterplay of the opposition.
What I did note, was that in the 1st half, we were very clearly organized in the first two thirds of the pitch, that we regularily played out from Arsenal’s high pressure either slowly ot through Højlund, and that Arsenal were forced to fall back in a manner and an amount I’ve only seen a few times the last few years on their turf. To me that means they didn’t want to and even if it means they hade a slow day st work or that Arteta was insure of what our tactics would be, it was also the result of very good play on our part. Because that’s how good Arsenal are, and they are in great form at the moment.
I also noted that in the ladt third, Arsenal where very well positioned and organized. This was unsurprising, as that defensive organization to me has been Arteta’s biggest stamp on that side, far more than any attacking ideas they have. Most teams struggle to break it down, and even second choices like Kiwior and Zinchenko (I’m not sure I’d call Timber a second choice) execute it incredibly well. If United had the likes of Salah, Haaland or Vinicius, or a well drilled attacking play with many strings to play at, we should be able to test it alot more from all the good positions we aquired in the middle of the pitch. This is not the case now, and so it may say something about the players intentions or instructions, but to me it’s more likely that the spaces needed where not opening, and when going for individual prowess, Saliba is good enough to snuff out Højlund, Timber and Saka together is too much for Garnacho etc.
I agree with you that United could have set out with more daring in the last third. Amorim’s post match comments that he was happy with how the players played in the first half with regards to taking control of the game, but not with what they did in terms of hallenging Arsenal in the last third, to me points against what you said about there not being aim of creating more chances, or that the possession was merely defensive in intent.
To me, an away game against teams like Arse, Coty or Pool at the moment is the least interesting to judge development in this phase. They are much better than us at their main game. What Solskjær and Ten Hag (IMO two badically very good managers) demonstrated was that you could create chances against these teams by attacking very directly with the players most apt to do that, but that you’ll have to live with conceding the ball in 8/10 plays and spend the rest of the time in a low block or risk conceding 6 or 7. In the long run, this didn’t tell us of our progress in developping general play.
Maybe a different strategy could have increased our chances at hurting Arsenal, maybe not, but I think the only thing of any Interest going forward, was the fact that we managed keeping control of Arsenal in open play for 75 mins while sticking to our main play and having more of the ball than them, and a fairly good control of the midfield. That can be built upon. The rest is circumstanvial to me.
Well, an exception to that is the corners, where we have improved markedly under Georgson, and looked unnecessary vulnerable now the roles have been changed in set piece coaching.
I'm not alone then... I absolutely love listening to him speak and he seems a great guy. Tactically he seems completely on the ball too.
I hope he stays here for a long time.
I hope he stays here for a long time.
Extremely likeable guy. Much more so than our previous managers. Says the right things without it seeming scripted. His analysis of fans wanting to see effort, wins and domination in that order is quite simple and spot on.
How come?
That part about him wearing the shorts because Bruno wasn’t allowed to, I do hope them being good mates doesn’t interfere with him picking the right team.
Great guy though, we got the right one this time hopefully.
He did some punditry in Portugal, I wonder if we'll ever see him on Sky Sports
Amorim will be juggling several different things over the first couple of months.
1. Stabilise the teams performances and moral.
2. Introducing a style of play and trying to get his ideas instilled in the players.
3. Try to get results to a least stay in with a chance of top 6 finish and to progress as far as possible in the cup competitions.
4. Assessing what his player resources are. Who will fit into which role, as he sees it.
I expect the rotation (and some odd selection choices) will continue to satisfy the 4th requirement, until he finds the team he wants.
How long will it take for him to decide Rashford is a duffer?
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1. Stabilise the teams performances and moral.
2. Introducing a style of play and trying to get his ideas instilled in the players.
3. Try to get results to a least stay in with a chance of top 6 finish and to progress as far as possible in the cup competitions.
4. Assessing what his player resources are. Who will fit into which role, as he sees it.
I expect the rotation (and some odd selection choices) will continue to satisfy the 4th requirement, until he finds the team he wants.
How long will it take for him to decide Rashford is a duffer?
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Can't imagine any rational oppo fan would dislike him. Its not like he has a Mourinho-like personality.
Yep, everyone understands form comes & it goes, but 100% effort is the bare minimum fans should expect from highly paid professional athletes. You can always see “effort” buys any player a lot of leeway over the years. No matter if they’re not great footballers or in a downturn of form - “at least they put in a shift and tried” is at least some consolation.
Harsh on @duffer
Rashford wishes he could reach my levels of excellence.
If it doesn’t work under this guy then we may as well pack it all up.
Started off with a draw and then ecked out a win against some European minnows, the past 4 matches read 2-1-1, not exactly honey moon period worthy.
Unless by honeymoon period you mean positive fan sentiment which again i don't think he had any particular bump through that period, he's just steadily improved the team.
My Chelsea supporter colleague thinks he's shit and 3421 will never work in the PL. Can't wait for him to be in the mud.
He's obviously under no illusions about what kind of team he has taken over. Says "a storm will come" because he "knows his players and knows football", and clearly isn't impressed with their fitness or their application.
Strange take from a supporter of a club who hired a manager not so long ago that used the same system and secured them top 4 and a CL.
I said to him they've literally won the league and a CL with two managers who used a back three system but his response was just 'yeah but it wasn't sustainable'.
Good god I’m getting sick of the wall to wall interviews and pressers. Let the man coach!
Love that he’s making the players applaud the fans after every game. Win or lose.
Just read that Amorim has been pencilled in for interviews with the following editorials next week
Scientific American
Popular Mechanics
Wall Street Journal
Also he's got a guest slot on 'Ancient Aliens' Season 35 Episode 17 airing next week on the History Channel.
Scientific American
Popular Mechanics
Wall Street Journal
Also he's got a guest slot on 'Ancient Aliens' Season 35 Episode 17 airing next week on the History Channel.
I don't think we can complain with the results. Ipswich are very hard to beat at home and never give in, so a draw with them was always a possibility. Smashed Everton and the Europa league team, and lost to Arsenal. We're beating who we should beat and that wasn't the case with ETH.
Hopefully that trend continues today, I think anything other than 3 points will be considered disappointing.
Well, forest are doing well at the moment. We should win, but don't be shocked at an upset.
I wouldn't be shocked, but at the same time we should be winning today really after that disastrous Arsenal second half performance. Hopefully we're motivated enough to bounce back.
Benching Rashford. Good man
Not only answering honestly but also with respect, I liked it when he said Manchester United is a MASSIVE club, which is true, big club adored and followed by millions globally, but the team is mid table as of now, true as well without being disrespectful.
He also not pinning blames on individuals, saying things like "everyone must improve" when asked about Rashford, it is good not to single out anyone in a group, best is to focus the comments to the media on the group, things like us, we , the team, etc...
He seems very clever in how he manages to be honest while still not giving the media any ammunition to fire back at him with.
As I feared after the last match, changing defence and with new faces, set pieces are a real issue for us at the moment. Not sure whether the Portuguese league has any teams that are strong from set pieces, but at the moment, it looks a real weakness, that we aren't working on.
Only at United we can't even have a managerial bounce since hiring Ole as a caretaker.
We did poorly on player market over the decade. Prime Fergie wouldn't fix this.
Great now I’m terrified every time we concede a corner
Our senior ‘stars’ feel they have nothing to prove.
He's been here for less than a month and this is the best trained we've looked since Sir Alex retired. In terms of structure on and off the ball, passing patterns, team knowing when to press and when to defend and not having huge holes all over the place. Amorim looking just like an excellent coach.