Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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You have to try not to let them sap the life out of you!It's tiring to most of us, let alone to him
I did enjoy the win against Everton. It was awhile since we were that comfortable in a game. It's not constant negativity. As I said, I didn't like the Arsenal performance so I'm calling it as such.
Fair enough. I guess I see things differently to a lot on here.
I have seen enough to know things will pick up. It won’t be smooth sailing but we will become consistent again. Weather we can be serious title challenges is another story but I’m going to enjoy watching Ruben implement his style and more importantly standards.
Great snipit today from him that we need to sprint forwards and back. He knows what he is doing and I am really looking forward to see what he achieves. Everything about him is positive and honest.
It’s ok to believe again don’t be scared.
Great snipit today from him that we need to sprint forwards and back. He knows what he is doing and I am really looking forward to see what he achieves. Everything about him is positive and honest.
It’s ok to believe again don’t be scared.
One person who seemed to agree with some of your assessment was Amorim, who clearly was unhappy with decisions made by the players when there was opportunities to attack several times. He was going ballistic on the sidelines a few times. To me, that would indicate that maybe the setup wasn't ultra defensive but rather the fact that the players are still very new to the system and don't know when to do what offensively yet.
Coaches usually say that coaching the defensive setup is less time consuming than the offensive. We just haven't had the time to get the patterns of play down yet. I don't think it has anything to do with an "ultra-defensive" setup for this particular match.
I guess this is where I differ from a lot of people. I can agree if one or two players didn't attack that it's down to them but not when every single one of them refused to attack. That would suggest, atleast for me, that they were prepared for the game by the coach to be as risk averse as possible and more concerned about not conceding a goal rather than trying to score one.
Then that explains a lot. Better just ignored.
Set up against Arsenal was perfectly fine given players availability and capabilities. No matter what that match was written off anyway. For me at least by setting the team correctly the manager met my expectations, and the players met my anticipation by losing the game anyway.
Ruben is starting to figure out what a bunch of overpaid and overrated players he’s got at his disposal
I love how he doesn’t hide from the truth.
I like how he doesn't shy away from the facts to the media, I think he has the personality the charisma for it to come across well to the players
The stuff he said since he’s joined, it is clear that he has the full backing from the leadership team, player power has finally come to en end.
If the player don’t or won’t buy into this Managers ideas then we might as well all go home.
I’m normally a ‘let’s wait and see ‘ person but I really think we have the right guy , I’m excited but we’ll need to be patient
I’m normally a ‘let’s wait and see ‘ person but I really think we have the right guy , I’m excited but we’ll need to be patient
He's 100% correct, not sure if the great team comment is beneficial but he is not lying.
The recruitment in the last 10 years has been diabolical, and shockingly it has been made worse under every manager. Utd have ended up with a squad lacking the athletic basics needed to succeed in the PL. That was one of the most frustrating things about Ten Hag, he talked as if he understood that was a problem, but continually targeted players and played a style that exacerbated the issue, making his drawn out failure a frustrating inevitability.
Amorin appears to have identified this issue very early on and his team selection backs it up, recutiment will tell the full story though.
Amorin appears to have identified this issue very early on and his team selection backs it up, recutiment will tell the full story though.
I think this is a pretty implausible take on the game.
Low ExG - the most interesting point of the post, and a relevant fact. Just not the only one. Most interesting about it is the causes for it. Were we cautious and careful away to Arsenal? Yes. Is that cowardly? No, anything else would have been stupid. Was that the only reason? No, it was also a matter of not finding the solutions in the final third. Is that due to not trying? Is it due to not hsving an aim? No, silly idea. It’s due to not being good enough yet in attacking movements to trouble Arsenal without opening up defense. Still we could have gone to the break 1-0 up if Dalot had scored, and no one would have complained about it.
1 st half was exemplary based on the circumstance. Context. Assuming that Arsenal wanted it so at home is unrealistic.
2nd half was different, due to Arsenal, corners, goals and changes. Lots to improve.
It does feel like that doesnt it? Lets hope it stays that way!
It doesn't help that we give our players obscene contracts, definitely has an effect on their motivation and hunger to succeed in my opinion. Once you join United you're already set for life with a fat juicy wage, trophies are just for egos after all.
He’s handled a difficult situation with class. Well done Amorim.
Almorim needs a few more games to instill a winning mentality.
Not sure I agree it’s gotten worse, it’s just been a consistent level of shit for 10 years.
Even if we ignore who Moyes signed because of the chaos of that one season, Van Gaal signed some proper duds and it didn’t get much better from that point.
The Antony signing clouds the perception of recent transfer activity but I wouldn’t call it significantly worse than under any other manager, we’ve even seemingly signed some players who might actually be worthy of the shirt (Maz, Onana)
Definitely. I think he'll be given time to get the team the way it needs to be, most of them are useless.
I think we differ in how we define "not being good enough." If we tried something and failed, I'd say that shows they're not good enough yet. But if they don't try at all, I’d argue that means they didn’t aim to be attacking enough. In my view, that first half we didn't threaten nearly enough. It wasn't because Arsenal were defending exceptionally well or sweeping everything up; it was more about us repeatedly passing the ball back when we got near their box and generally playing it too safe.
For further context, Arsenal were missing three of their first choice back four, so I honestly feel we could have been more of a threat. And just to clarify, I’m not calling for an all-out attack, as some others may have misunderstood. I'm simply saying we didn’t take enough risks or show enough intent in the attacking situations we had.
Also, for the record, I'm not writing off Amorim already or anti-Ruben as some posters seem to think. I just didn’t like that performance, and I really hope and expect we can deliver better than what we showed against Arsenal.
And a few more good players
Love the way he talks to the media, gives me real Fergie vibes. Proper man crush developing here.
Sort of skates by how few good players we actually have sometimes in the grand context of every.
Even if you just compare our squad to Arsenals, it blows ours individually out of the water. We have to recruit better moving forward (this summer was a solid start it seems).
One of Ten Hags soldiers till the end.
As far as Amorim goes, he’s absolutely encouraging me with how frank he’s been answering questions. The first thing you want to see with a new manager is if they can diagnose problems quickly, which he’s absolutely done
Can't fault him so far, infact been a joy to watch. This job isn't easy and the big lad makes it look like he's got it all under control. Very impressed.
More importantly I think he has the respect and authority to cull this squad...from the board up. But and there always is.....results have to come. Getting beat by arsenal away 0-2 happened at the best of times. Relax
More importantly I think he has the respect and authority to cull this squad...from the board up. But and there always is.....results have to come. Getting beat by arsenal away 0-2 happened at the best of times. Relax
Absolutely spot on around 4min 30 saying that the first thing the fans want to see is players actually putting in the effort.
The media really are hoping he says something bad against Rashford. He hasn't helped himself but the spotlight on Rashford is massive and everything he does is analysed by fans and media. Good to see him protecting his players where he can.