I do remember some strong Old Trafford form, however even when it was good, I rarely felt we actually played as a team, where anybody could pop up and score a goal like today. It was very reliant on Rashford's purple patch. Then you have our away form under him which was always fairly shite.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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I do remember some strong Old Trafford form, however even when it was good, I rarely felt we actually played as a team, where anybody could pop up and score a goal like today. It was very reliant on Rashford's purple patch. Then you have our away form under him which was always fairly shite.
Ye, I’d take 1-0s ever week. 3pts is all that matters at the end of the day. The trouble with 1-0s though is if you switch of near the end of the match it soon becomes 1-1. I can’t settle during games unless we’re 2 up and it’s after 70 minutes. We always concede late corners when we’re only a goal up and it’s very nervous to watch.
Its just great to see a style of play after three games that he is trying to implement while under Ten Hag we were absolutely clueless and no one knew what type of style we played which was the biggest issue. He seems to be a mastermind at stretching teams and getting our players into the best positions to maximize output. I think we finally have a world class manager who will get the best out of the players at his disposal. Love how he is playing Rashford up top and getting the best out of him where Ten Hag struggled all season. Rashford is miles ahead of Hojlund in this moment of time. Don't let the two goals against Bodo fool you.
What I like about him is that he doesn’t seem to be the kind of smart arse we’ve hired before. Says all the right things, is charismatic, seems to have the players inside already, and as long as he’s smart about it and does his job properly he’ll keep them onside, which is more than half the battle. Easy and lazy comparison to make but he reminds me of a young Jose, which was the best version of Jose.
I think one difference is our manager bounce before Amorim didnt come with a complete revamp in playstyle to be a more modern one. So far we are moving forward in the terms of that, even if you dont count the results.
His personality is so much better than boring depressing ten hag
I mean so is a wet sponge compared to ETH
heh
Didnt we miss out on top 4 once because of GD too?
Should he have subbed Kobbie and Licha after third goal, what do people think out of interest?
He sucked the life out of me whenever he spoke, God knows how the players felt.
I mean they are both working their way back to fitness. I would have liked Amad and Rashford to be rested but they didn’t really play mid week game. It was a short run out.
Like his sobering comments in the post match interviews, we weren't good in many parts of the game but we were very clinical and composed in front of goal, and solid defensively for the most part, slowed down the game and kept the ball when needed.
His style is slowly taking shape but we need our players to perform better consistently for it to work better
His style is slowly taking shape but we need our players to perform better consistently for it to work better
That's damning.
Early days but looks like we’re getting what we ordered. What i appreciate most about Amorim is that we did not need to go through 3 bloody transfer windows to start seeing evidence about a style of play. Demanding players from the board before you are able to deliver the promised style of play sounds fraudulent. I believe a good manager should be able to demonstrate ideals with the available resources. The levels of efficacy of delivery is a different discussion but a style of play is paramount.
Another trait that has endeared the new manager to me is how he emphasises about the standards we need to be at as Manchester United Football Club. Relinquishing control to the likes of Everton (no disrespect intended) is not permissible if we ever intend on returning back to Elite Status. I’m hopeful he will be able to get players to remember the standards that must be upheld everytime the badge is donned.
I’m aware we will take a battering at some point this season but as long as the indicators around the progress we’re making is evident, I’m down for the ride.
Another trait that has endeared the new manager to me is how he emphasises about the standards we need to be at as Manchester United Football Club. Relinquishing control to the likes of Everton (no disrespect intended) is not permissible if we ever intend on returning back to Elite Status. I’m hopeful he will be able to get players to remember the standards that must be upheld everytime the badge is donned.
I’m aware we will take a battering at some point this season but as long as the indicators around the progress we’re making is evident, I’m down for the ride.
Exactly. For too long we’ve been blinded by results over performances. I loved what he said after we drew vs Ipswich. He could have played a different way, maybe won, but next year United will still have the same issues.
Performances are more important them results for the long term benefit of the project.
could start a cult he's so charistmatic
the Rubenistas
the Rubenistas
Or a wet biscuit
It's amazing how Amorim is able to turn united into a winning team. Just a few seasons ago, United lost to Everton by 4 goals and now United beat them by 4 goals. It's an 8 goals defecit. Truly extraordinary!
That's why if you eliminate the euphoria of the 4 goals and the performance of a few players; we didn't really create the goal chances via his attacking approach. More like we scored capitalising on defensive mistakes.
The patterns of play is still not that apparent especially in the final third
Well it wasn't 4+ goals... it was 4 goals.
Top teams do that. They press and make sure other teams make mistakes. Very important we continue to press high.
Patterns of play will come with each passing week. It is difficult to build one when you play 1 game every 3 days. You just have to go one step at a time. But the performance is far better than whatever we have produced in last 18 months.
For twenty something years we were favored in all but maybe 4-5 games every season. I understand people have unrealistic expectations but that was a reality united fans were lucky enough to experience for decades. Your last point is also true. The caf during that time would argue over minor things, complain after winning titles etc. It's just what happens to a fanbase so spoiled on success.
While I agree with you, I do think there's a difference already. The 3rd goal against Bodo and the 2nd Rashford goal today, simple but we rarely scored those type under ETH. I think those goals point to a better approach to feeding the striker.
Yes and no. I think the plan is obvious. To expect a pattern of play after no preseason and just 3 weeks is too much. But let’s look at the positives.
1) Bruno no longer wasting possession with his Hollywood passes.
2) No stupid long shots from Bruno or Rashford
3) Players are now passing from positions they’d usually shoot from. Zirkzee early on to Amad, most of Amad’s assists.
4) We are better at keeping possession from defence to attack.
You can’t expect someone to become a boxer after after one boxing session. But you can see if they’ve taken on board what they learnt and are trying to implement it.
Came here to say the same thing. We actually weren’t very good in our overall play despite the score line and it was great to listen to a manager actually acknowledge that.
Good grief. That's horrendous.
One perhaps minor thing that I noticed in this last game is how we kept possession of the ball right off the first kick-off; in the previous regime we always used to kick off, send it back to one of our defenders, who would then launch it deep, and inevitably we'd cede possession. Not a big thing, but that used to drive me crazy.
I agree. There seems more organisation, with players seeming to know where the other will be. Fleeting moments, but certainly more so from the right side.
I just dont want to fall in the trap like with ETH where silverware/results masked the crappy, one-dimensional play that he developed over the past 24 months. We are making baby steps.
Agree. The fact that we have been scoring so many more goals since ETH left is progress enough.
And long may it continue.
This is quite a big change to be fair. It shows that we’re trying to keep possession a lot more rather than waste it. Same with Onana doing less long balls like he used to do. The long ball he did do against Everton actually found one of our players.
Its called forcing errors. Its why klopps liverpool press like possessed mad hounds up top for 90 mins.
So refreshing to see pro active substitutes
Positive goal difference! Entertaining football! Squad rotation! 
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but when was the last time we saw 6/7 changes to a team and we play with an identity?
I remember Jose, he never used to like to rotate much, Ole did a few times in the cup games but we looked out of sorts.. Ten Hag made excuses when he had to change the team.
Amorim, comes in and makes 6 changes per game and we play with identity. He plays a ST one game and a false 9 another game but instead of using the same structure for both, changes it to suit.
Playing Rashford with Zirkzee, meaning Zirkzee pulls CB out, Rashford drifts centrally which created space for Amad. When Hojlund plays he plays more 10's to get closer to him.
Just shows his adaptability as a coach.
My main negative would be the midfield, we are still too easy to play against, alot of times Everton played into the lines and we were not tight or just not aggressive.
We cannot play like that against Arsenal, so it will be interesting to see how he adapts against a big team.
I remember Jose, he never used to like to rotate much, Ole did a few times in the cup games but we looked out of sorts.. Ten Hag made excuses when he had to change the team.
Amorim, comes in and makes 6 changes per game and we play with identity. He plays a ST one game and a false 9 another game but instead of using the same structure for both, changes it to suit.
Playing Rashford with Zirkzee, meaning Zirkzee pulls CB out, Rashford drifts centrally which created space for Amad. When Hojlund plays he plays more 10's to get closer to him.
Just shows his adaptability as a coach.
My main negative would be the midfield, we are still too easy to play against, alot of times Everton played into the lines and we were not tight or just not aggressive.
We cannot play like that against Arsenal, so it will be interesting to see how he adapts against a big team.
Regarding the midfield I think that is a player issue. Someone like Ugarte makes a huge difference and he would probably work well with Mainoo, but our other midfielders are lacking. I would expect Amorim to prioritize the midfield together with the LWB the coming windows.
Ten Hag could not play his football with even a single injury in the entire squad apparently. He needed every players available and in top form.
People are starting to realize how much of a nonsense all these excuses really were, and it’s only going to become more and more apparent.
It also keeps the squad happy, hungry and motivated. You don't want players disgruntled because they're not getting gametime, and you don't want regulars to get too comfortable knowing someone else won't get a chance to take their spot.
I think for now, through till the winter break Casemiro + Ugarte might have to be his solution in the middle. The issue I think is that, everyone else needs to comfortably learn their defensive positions (wingbacks + 2 AMs) on the defensive transition. So while they're learning, its sensible to just give them a bit more help in the middle. You can then soon move to a more expansive midfield set up
So happy to see all the ETH lovers seeing the light and finally embracing change after making a case for an oaf for 18+ months.Positive goal difference! Entertaining football! Squad rotation!
God speed, my friend. It's a brave new world!
We actually have a better GD than CityPositive goal difference! Entertaining football! Squad rotation!
