Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

Newton said:
Loved Rubens first interview, and really felt it when he said we will see 'an idea'. Which is what we've been lacking for a while. I don't expect the results to be the deciding factor in his first few games, but if he can give the fans something that encourages us all then I will be happy.

With that said, I will be judging him on the personel he picks in his first few line ups, for far too long we've tried to smash together as many attacking players as possible, to the detriment to the midfield, control of the ball/pitch/territory and overall chance creation. For me, chances are created when you have control, not by just having loads of attackers on the pitch at once.

I'd much rather see a team like this:
Onana
Back 3
Mazraoui - Ugarte - Casemiro - Dalot
Bruno - Amad
Højlund

Than something like this:
Onana
Back 3
Mazraoui - Ugarte - Bruno - Garnacho
Amad - Rashford
Højlund

Now ignoring those players for now as they are not important, it was more to illustrate the point that we need to be solid, have players in their natural positions and not asking them to do things that sacrifice the natural strengths of their games.

For instance, when Kobbie comes back, depending on how we are setting up, do we get him in those front positions where he can do damage (yet still provide defensive energy when needed) or do we stick him in a double pivot, taking away some of his attacking threat and placing more responsibility on the 6 all in order to get an 'extra' attacker on the pitch (which becomes moot when we don't have the possession high enough up the pitch)?

Having not watched loads of his Sporting team I'm interested to see if the back 3 in itself helps us keep it solid and keep good possession, or if we need to still get bodies in midfield, in which case I'd much rather forsake an attacker or two for control of the game. It always seems to me like ETH tried to get all his good players or attackers on the pitch at once, leaving big holes in the middle of the field and it being pointless anyway as we couldn't create any chances for them.
Click to expand...
I agree with all this but differ very much on Kobie, I think he has to be developed as a well rounded midfielder as I don't see much more in him in an attacking sense beyond great technique. As a first phase orchestrator he has potential and he has shown potential to develop his defensive game to a level where he won't need carrying in a double pivot. If he can increase his stamina he'd be a great midfield General.
 
Rojofiam said:
Exactly what I've been saying for months.

The current squad is already capable of a 70+ points tally over a 38 game league season. Ten Hag had them massively underperforming for more than a year.

A good number of the players with no real future at the club are in the last year of their contracts: Eriksen, Evans, Lindelöf, maybe Maguire as well. We've already got rid of a lot of players last summer too: AWB, McTominay, Greenwood, van de Beek, Martial, Varane, Sancho.

Casemiro and Antony might be difficult assets to sell, but both of them provide at least some usefulness to the squad. Still, it's only just two players and I'm sure there will be opportunities to sell Casemiro to Saudi Arabia or somewhere outside Europe, and I think Antony will accept that he has to leave if he barely gets any game time, rather than warming the bench with no future at the club.

If you look at our wage bill, we've put ourselves in a really good position over the last 24 months and now actually have a lot of space for new players, and to offer our current best performers improved terms when the time for that comes.

Our lowish net spend last summer, combined with many "pure profit" sales (McT, Greenwood, Carreras, Kambwala) to help PSR, as well as the supposed continued external investment into the club by Ratcliffe should put us into a healthy financial status as well, with a lot of money to spend on the market, if we wish to.

I think this squad doesn't need gutting at all. A few departures and a few good additions each summer will see us turn into title contenders within the next two seasons IMO, if Amorim and his coaching staff are as good as we, and Ineos want to believe they are.
Click to expand...

Yeah this squad is definitely better than it looked under ETH.

Also it's not feasible to tear up the squad every time a new manager comes in. That is exactly the sort of thing we wanted to stop with ineos being in charge of transfers rather than the manager.

It's not even like we aren't going to sign anyone, we just can't keep spending 200 million every summer
 
TheReligion said:
The overly miserable doom merchants. You know who.
Click to expand...
God forbid people being miserable after more than 18 months of absolutely dire football and our worst ever PL and European performance. Was the worst period in my 20 odd years of being a United fan to watch the club.
 
VP89 said:
Maybe he doesn't have his full squad together yet..
Click to expand...
Get out of here with you logic and common sense!

santeria13 said:
God forbid people being miserable after more than 18 months of absolutely dire football and our worst ever PL and European performance. Was the worst period in my 20 odd years of being a United fan to watch the club.
Click to expand...
You name vil also go on ze list!! :lol:
 
Probably over worrying but Amorim and particularly his coaches are so young.

29 and assistant manager at United.

There can't be too many examples of such a young management team at a big club.
 
Marwood said:
Probably over worrying but Amorim and particularly his coaches are so young.

29 and assistant manager at United.

There can't be too many examples of such a young management team at a big club.
Click to expand...
Isn’t this equivalent of an academy player playing in the first team?
 
Marwood said:
Probably over worrying but Amorim and particularly his coaches are so young.

29 and assistant manager at United.

There can't be too many examples of such a young management team at a big club.
Click to expand...
Damn never thought it like that… I think the only similar case I can think of was Jose’s assistant at Spurs. He too was 29 or 30 if I recall.
 
Marwood said:
Probably over worrying but Amorim and particularly his coaches are so young.

29 and assistant manager at United.

There can't be too many examples of such a young management team at a big club.
Click to expand...
Mourinho was 41 when he first went to Chelsea. Wasn't Pep in his early 40's when he took over at Barca? I don't see age being a problem at all if they're capable. If anything, it's a positive for me.
 
Marwood said:
Probably over worrying but Amorim and particularly his coaches are so young.

29 and assistant manager at United.

There can't be too many examples of such a young management team at a big club.
Click to expand...
The 29 year old is the assistant manager?!
 
santeria13 said:
God forbid people being miserable after more than 18 months of absolutely dire football and our worst ever PL and European performance. Was the worst period in my 20 odd years of being a United fan to watch the club.
Click to expand...
Life is more fun when people don’t become drains on others!
 
VP89 said:
The 29 year old is the assistant manager?!
Click to expand...

Yeah Amorim's right hand man. Another coach is 28.

Not like there's any rules on this it just feels like a pretty unique experiment.

Like others have said Pep and Mourinho were young so it's possible. No idea if they had experienced coaches around them though.
 
Marwood said:
Yeah Amorim's right hand man. Another coach is 28.

Not like there's any rules on this it just feels like a pretty unique experiment.

Like others have said Pep and Mourinho were young so it's possible. No idea if they had experienced coaches around them though.
Click to expand...
McKenna won 2 promotions at his age.
 
Marwood said:
Probably over worrying but Amorim and particularly his coaches are so young.

29 and assistant manager at United.

There can't be too many examples of such a young management team at a big club.
Click to expand...
Well we’ve been through old and experienced coaches and guess what. Nothing changed. At least these coaches will bring the fun back to our football. They’ll bring modern ideas aswell as there not ancient.
 


Some more pics in there. Mainoo, Yoro, Malacia, Shaw and Mount all trained apparently. Martinez and Lindelof to be assessed.
 
DJ_21 said:
Well we’ve been through old and experienced coaches and guess what. Nothing changed. At least these coaches will bring the fun back to our football. They’ll bring modern ideas aswell as there not ancient.
Click to expand...

This is actually what I've been saying. These guys will just bring us into the modern era and way of playing which is good.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.