**At first
Then once he finished second and got the micky mouse double...
Boom Gyokeres. Boom Mbappe. Boom Davies. Boom Modric regen whose name I don't know yet.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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**At first
Then once he finished second and got the micky mouse double...
Boom Gyokeres. Boom Mbappe. Boom Davies. Boom Modric regen whose name I don't know yet.
Good decision and actually what I thought we should be doing. If he can't get us to atleast challenging for the top 4 this season with the current squad then he's another failed coach anyways.
So Erik spunks £600 million on Eredivisie rejects, leaves with a £15 million payoff and Ruben has to come in and clear the mess without as much as a pot to piss in. Great stuff.
Pretty much. Makes not sacking him in May look like even more of a joke.
Antony has been the only one who's been an unequivocal disaster. Rest all have been decent to good. It's up to Amorim to get consistent good performances out of them.
If he's as highly rated as he is, then he should be able to do exactly that and with those improved performances he will be able to sell them for good money to get players he wishes.
Depends what a restricted budget amounts to. 1 or 2 big signings and a couple of squad fillers shouldn't be an issue. I'd say there's 3 glaring holes in the squad at present in a 343 and hopefully we have players that can grow and make at least 2 of those positions their own.
CM we hope Mainoo is the real deal and can adapt to Amorim
ST hopefully Hojlund benefits from Amorims coaching as much as Gyokeres.
LWB is looking a challenge, but there is potential in Amass
CM we hope Mainoo is the real deal and can adapt to Amorim
ST hopefully Hojlund benefits from Amorims coaching as much as Gyokeres.
LWB is looking a challenge, but there is potential in Amass
We don't really need to gut the squad. His job is to get the best out of the current group, and then in the summer we can add 2 or 3 quality players. I'm sure he'll be backed if he wants to add a couple of players here and there.
I hope he has given every player the hair dryer the minute they walked in.
Let them know who the big boss is now Big Ruby Ammo
Let them know who the big boss is now Big Ruby Ammo
All well and good hoping that Mount can thrive. Staying fit is his issue. You can't hang your hat on him.
Untapped potential. 
About as untapped as joining the California goldrush a hundred years or so later.
About as untapped as joining the California goldrush a hundred years or so later.
Have we had a year without a "United are skint and aren't going to spend any money" story?
Back to this.. How many times has this been discussed?
1. Amorim did not want to leave in the summer.
2. We did not have our board in the summer.
So if we sacked him in the summer, it still would have cost us 15m, it was widely reported.
Finally, if we did sack him, it would have been Tuchel or Di Zerbi and in my opinion, I am glad he wasn't sacked then as those 2 managers were not what I wanted for many reasons.
I hope he doesn't back down on his system and formation. We never saw ten Hag's Ajax system here, like he didn't try.
Even if we have poor results stay with the system until it clicks, of it doesn't change players or whatever but that's the reason you were brought here. By all the reports his football is exciting and successful, better gamble for it to eventually click for us than revert to the same old counterattacking basic football we've played since Mourinho.
Even if we have poor results stay with the system until it clicks, of it doesn't change players or whatever but that's the reason you were brought here. By all the reports his football is exciting and successful, better gamble for it to eventually click for us than revert to the same old counterattacking basic football we've played since Mourinho.
He has come out in his interview and said from game 1 you will see a style / system.
So I am hoping that we see his way of playing rather than him overly adapting just to get results, which is what was the downfall for Ten Hag.
He obviously needs easy wins at the start, that will help players / fans believe in his style of play. Ten Hag started really badly, showed up multiple flaws in his game. Everytime we went a goal down to our rivals in the first 20 mins, the game would end 3 plus goals.
Its only games we scored first really we won under Ten Hag.
Amorim needs to make sure our mentality is strong.
“Just go out and have fun and express yourselve lads”
If that’s really where we are at then Amorim is as helpless and doomed as every other manager since SAF.
That isn't the basics? It's about keeping a proper shape, tracking runners, being careful with the ball.
Under ETH there were huge gaps everywhere and it made the team easy to play against.
If people think Amorim is going to have this squad of players looking great in a 3-5-2 in the space of a week, you're in for a nasty shock...
I dont see why we cannot look more than competent ? I have seen Spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool, Villa, Brighton all looking good within weeks of their new manager joining.
This excuse as fans that football requires x years to build a system.. its completely false.
Most managers who do well, get the team playing in the style / system almost within few weeks.
I recall Klopp, it was the same, instant impact. Poch at Spurs was the same, instant impact.
Whereas on the other hand, what manager has not had an instant impact and succeeded?
Not too worried tbh. Squad does indeed have a lot of potential.
Garnacho, Amad, Mainoo, Ugarte, Yoro, Rasmus, De Ligt, Dalot, Mazraoui.
You could only argue a top striker could be brought in to share the load with Rasmus, but considering how Amorim coached Goykores to be so prolific - you'd expect the same with Rasmus given their attributes are pretty similar.
This squad has a lot of potential to compete for a CL spot, yes.
Where's the arrival photos? Where's the training photos leak?
Mount was signed for big money as a first choice attacking mid, and has in 1,5 season 2 goalcontributions all comps.
He adds some energy to our pressing up top but that is basically it. He most definitely belongs in the disaster category.
How many games/minutes has he played?
Absolutely. We have a number of very talented young player’s in both the first team squad and the under 23s/18s.
Its correct we need to get more from what we have and supplement that with the odd signing (and direct signing) rather than start from scratch.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is likely a transfer muppet.
I don`t know, maybe 20 games in total?
Wait, people here thought he wouldn’t be tasked with making our players better and shocked to hear the annual skint notice?
I refuse to believe that people would think this
I refuse to believe that people would think this
Some of you are such glass half empty people.Untapped potential.
About as untapped as joining the California goldrush a hundred years or so later.
There is absolutely untapped potential in the squad, especially from players just signed and those who have underperformed. Amorim is undoubtedly a better manager than ten Hag having done it in a more competitive league, and has the charisma to actually get players running through walls for him. It really could just be a case of these players being instructed poorly and we could see some playing so much better in a system where everyone knows their roles. Some might not but to just tar them all with the same brush is reductive.
It's the same as those saying ETH spunked 600m down the drain. Does this figure include Ugarte? Yoro? De Ligt? Martinez? It's just such a pointless catch-all way of looking at things.
Has been plagued with injuries. Not due to his quality as a player. If he stays fits(big if), he can easily contribute more. He has shown it previously in this very league.
Did we overpay? Yes, paying 55m for a guy with 1 year left on his deal is clear overpaying but I don't think anyone thought he'd be injured as much as he has.
This was the biggest alarm for me. Restricting the new guys budget after spanking another 200m for the dead man walking is comically lacking sense.
Have a look
Nobody ever thought Mount was signed as our first choice attacking midfielder as that would be Bruno.
We offered 250k per week and the nr7 shirt to a player intended for squad depth?
He has taken part in 26 games in total all comps, roughly 1100 minutes in his time here. Point?
Frankly it's embarrassing seeing us at the top of the spending tree with such little to show for it. It's about time we got the most out of the current crop while adding a few players every window. I'm sure quite a lot need refining in their games while others just need to move on and have had plenty of opportunities to prove themselves. Signing 5 players every window is extremely costly while we hardly get anything back from selling. I hope Amorim extracts as much as possible from the players as he can.
Hate it say it but Liverpool have done well with so little turnover. Although I think that will end once their core players (Salah,etc) move on.
Hate it say it but Liverpool have done well with so little turnover. Although I think that will end once their core players (Salah,etc) move on.
The injuries are certainly unfortunate. But he has also been fit for long enough periods to be able to show his worth here imo. Has not done nearly enough.
Bro, where's the training pics?
The Glazer era social media team would have shown Ruben getting up out of bed.
The Glazer era social media team would have shown Ruben getting up out of bed.
New manager bounce coming soon.
Time will tell but feel you have misinterpreted this one.
He is very specific, he will go with something HE KNOWS, not the players he doesn't say I will accommodate my philosophy or style to fit the team. He simply says they cannot play defensively. The 343 isn't defensive. That's a 1990s English 442 is king opinion.
One telling part of Amorim's interview that has been overlooked in these pages is the fact that he said, as a player, he played every position apart from GK and CF. He stated that that is partly what he meant by team and a team player. I suspect that he will be expecting many of the current squad to have that adaptability and to not moan about it.
Keane had it. He played anywhere in midfield, full-back, CB. Wes Brown, Phil Neville, O'Shea ... adaptable. Rio played everywhere! It was a privilege to pull on the shirt and play anywhere for United and the manager.
Of the current squad I think that Mazraoui, Dalot, Martinez, DeLigt, Mainoo, Fernandes, Mount, Shaw, Zirkzee, Amad, Garnacho, Antony and even Rashford to a degree could be adaptable. Malacia could play FB or LWB. Maguire, Lindelof and Evans are comfortable in a back 3 or back 4.
Now, I expect the usual suspects to chip in with "Rashford - get rid," and "Antony is the worst ever signing," and Mount, Shaw, Malacia are never fit etc. But there are plenty of other dedicated threads for spleen-venting.
I am optimistic.
Keane had it. He played anywhere in midfield, full-back, CB. Wes Brown, Phil Neville, O'Shea ... adaptable. Rio played everywhere! It was a privilege to pull on the shirt and play anywhere for United and the manager.
Of the current squad I think that Mazraoui, Dalot, Martinez, DeLigt, Mainoo, Fernandes, Mount, Shaw, Zirkzee, Amad, Garnacho, Antony and even Rashford to a degree could be adaptable. Malacia could play FB or LWB. Maguire, Lindelof and Evans are comfortable in a back 3 or back 4.
Now, I expect the usual suspects to chip in with "Rashford - get rid," and "Antony is the worst ever signing," and Mount, Shaw, Malacia are never fit etc. But there are plenty of other dedicated threads for spleen-venting.
I am optimistic.