Tommy Doc just said on the radio...
He also said thet Eammon Dunphy is a brain donor.
Heh heh heh...Those Celts.
He also said thet Eammon Dunphy is a brain donor.
Heh heh heh...Those Celts.
Roy Keane is a disgrace to his profession...
- Thread starter 26 may 1999
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Originally posted by 26 may 1999:
<strong>Tommy Doc just said on the radio...
He also said thet Eammon Dunphy is a brain donor.
Heh heh heh...Those Celts.</strong><hr></blockquote>
well let him "disgrace"manchester united with his incredible and inspirational preformaces for years to come.
walking past a market stall in town today selling Ireland tops, i stopped to ask the guy if he had any Keano tops... LOL if looks could kill i wouldnt be around now, The guy had loads of Ireland tops with Keano printed on the back of em with Roys number and he couldnt get rid of em. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
Bitterly disappointed that Keane could not be part of the World Cup - you would love the ragging debate in Ireland.
Hurrrraaahh for Eamon Dunphy
Hurrrraaahh for Eamon Dunphy
Tommy Doc is one of the bitterist bastards going.
He just can't wait to have a dig at anything United.
He just can't wait to have a dig at anything United.
A lot of the 'experts' are having a go at Keano (wrongly imo) and the one that really made me laugh was Jimmy Greaves who said Keane put himself before his country, now for those of you that don't know Jimmy Greaves was the man who was injured for the 66 world cup final but in the sqaud and went round wembley sulking after the game, where as Keane has played with an injury and played 200% in each game as always to battle for Ireland to get to the world cup, and does anyone need to remember how Keane put himself before the lads in Turin, that Keano is one feckin disgrace to his profession <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Oh yeah whys everyone up so early on a Sunday?
Is there something goin on or what
Is there something goin on or what
A tad ironic The Doc criticising someone for unprofessional behaviour. Shagging/eloping with the missus of your physio might also be seen as unprofessional in some circles.
If every player in the Republic of Ireland team had Kean`s drive, will to win and willingness to speak out for his team mates when they are taken for granted by officialdom, they would be World Cup champions.
Thanks largely to Keane, Ireland are at the World Cup. Mick McCarthy is a poor manager for suggesting that Keano was malingering - the only thing wrong about Keano`s attack back was the timing.
If Keano is a disgrace then I pray for more such disgraces in the Manchester United team!!!!!!! <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
Thanks largely to Keane, Ireland are at the World Cup. Mick McCarthy is a poor manager for suggesting that Keano was malingering - the only thing wrong about Keano`s attack back was the timing.
If Keano is a disgrace then I pray for more such disgraces in the Manchester United team!!!!!!! <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
To be fair to Doc, I've listened to him a lot on TalkSport and I haven't heard him slag off United - always comes across as a fan imo.
He's got this one wrong though.
It's OK thinking Roy handled it wrong, but to call him a disgrace shows a very one-sided view. Has he even considered what provoked Roy in the first place.
This is a good article from FTT.
"It is a shame that Roy Keane - in my opinion the best midfielder in the world - will not be gracing the World Cup Finals this summer, and I believe manager Mick McCarthy, the FAI and the player himself must share all of the blame.
As a United fan, I have to say that in the long run Keane's absence will, of course, be of benefit to us. His knee and hamstring have been of real concern for some time now, so at least he can rest up for the summer and by the time the real action begins in August, he will be raring to go.
It is somewhat ironic that Keane's presence in the qualifying stages was a key factor in Ruud van Nistelrooy not travelling to the Far East this summer with Holland; now Keane will join the Dutchman, our two most impressive players from last season taking a much-needed and deserve breather.
Yet whilst Ruud's absence from the World Cup was in every sense forced, the same cannot be said of captain Keane. The most important player to pull on a red shirt since the days of Eric Cantona, Keane is/was also the key figure to the Irish set-up, and only this time last week a Republic squad without Keane was as absurd as it was ridiculous.
But due to the events of the past few days, Keane will not be parading his undoubted world class qualities on the same stage as Zinedine Zidane, Rivaldo, Luis Figo and other players of similar standing. It would be naïve of me to suggest this has nothing whatsoever to do with anything Keane may or may not have said, but at the same time I also think there are parties who should be sharing the blame for Keane's absence.
Step forward, Mick McCarthy: it was inexcusable for the manager to question the integrity of his captain in front of the rest of the squad and coaching staff. The Irish manager accused Keane of feigning injury for the last qualifying game against Iran, despite him knowing full well that Keane couldn't play due to a knee injury that had also kept him out of much of United's programme. As if this wasn't bad enough, McCarthy then claimed that Keane didn't care for his country - no wonder Keane blew up. In fact, it is a mystery how McCarthy didn't cop for one.
If McCarthy had a problem with Keane bemoaning the atrocious conditions in which he and the rest of the squad were expected to train in, it should have been dealt with in private - not in front of the rest of the squad. Keane has claimed that the manager wanted him out, and as ridiculous as this sounds, on the evidence it is hard to disagree with that. McCarthy knew Keane would react to his accusations, so why inflame the situation in front of his team mates? Perhaps McCarthy wanted to show once and for all who the boss is, who knows - whatever his reasons for accusing Keane like he did, it was pure and simple disgraceful man-management.
Step forward, the FAI: Keane has been at loggerheads with the FAI for sometime now - remember his disgust at the fact that players had to travel to away games in the cheap seats whilst management and directors enjoyed the luxury of business class? This problem was soon rectified, but it is clear that the lessons weren't learned, judging by what Keane and the rest of the players charged with turning Ireland into a genuine World Cup force had to contend with: a seventeen hour flight, which was four more than necessary (why didn't they fly direct like England?); a training pitch that was hard and resembled a car park, complete with just two goalposts; no training kit; no footballs; they were advised to drink a high-energy drink throughout the tournament, yet it never turned up; amateurish training methods; the lost goes on.
Keane has described it as like 'being on tour with the Dog & Duck', yet claims this was just the tip of the iceberg, albeit an incredibly big tip. But what people are underestimating is the way Keane believes the FAI let him down over the Niall Quinn fiasco. Keane had let it be known to all concerned that he wouldn't make the Quinn testimonial between Sunderland and Ireland, yet that didn't stop the press speculating as to why he didn't show. Why didn't the FAI release a statement to back up what Keane had earlier told them? Instead, they were happy to let their most important player become subject to intense media criticism, whilst he was trying to overcome his injury problems and prepare for a World Cup. Actually, why didn't Quinn himself make comment? Which brings me nicely on to...
Step forward, the 22-man Irish squad: you can understand, if not fully agree with, the stance the rest of the squad showed following the Keane/McCarthy bust-up. They showed solidarity to their manager, and why? Because they didn't want to run the risk of being booted out themselves, which is fair enough. Yet privately, more than a handful of them agreed with Keane - they too are professional footballers, nobody can tell me they were entirely happy with training conditions?
But it is their duty to be publicly seen supporting their manager. But to publicly milk it? Quinn, Steve Staunton, Alan Kelly and Jason McAteer, in particular, were almost positively glowing in their criticism of Keane, making it impossible for their captain to return to the fold. They now claim they don't need Keane, which we all know is more than a tad optimistic. And finally...
Step forward, Roy Keane: I make no secret that Keane is the most important player we have at Old Trafford, and nothing he does could make me feel any less of him. Yet, and I hate to be the one to bring this tired argument up, he is a professional footballer who is fortunate enough to be given a talent that allows him to earn in access of £50,000-per-week, and then some. For the sake of all those fans back in Ireland who idolise him, could he have voiced his concerns, by all means, to McCarthy in private and not in the papers, got his head down and worked for the cause for what is, after all, not likely to be more than four weeks?
But whatever the reasons, whoever the real villain of the piece is, what is certain now is that Keane will take no part in the World Cup. It is a great shame for the player, the team and the Irish fans, and a shame that could have been resolved with that greatest of assets - common sense."
He's got this one wrong though.
It's OK thinking Roy handled it wrong, but to call him a disgrace shows a very one-sided view. Has he even considered what provoked Roy in the first place.
This is a good article from FTT.
"It is a shame that Roy Keane - in my opinion the best midfielder in the world - will not be gracing the World Cup Finals this summer, and I believe manager Mick McCarthy, the FAI and the player himself must share all of the blame.
As a United fan, I have to say that in the long run Keane's absence will, of course, be of benefit to us. His knee and hamstring have been of real concern for some time now, so at least he can rest up for the summer and by the time the real action begins in August, he will be raring to go.
It is somewhat ironic that Keane's presence in the qualifying stages was a key factor in Ruud van Nistelrooy not travelling to the Far East this summer with Holland; now Keane will join the Dutchman, our two most impressive players from last season taking a much-needed and deserve breather.
Yet whilst Ruud's absence from the World Cup was in every sense forced, the same cannot be said of captain Keane. The most important player to pull on a red shirt since the days of Eric Cantona, Keane is/was also the key figure to the Irish set-up, and only this time last week a Republic squad without Keane was as absurd as it was ridiculous.
But due to the events of the past few days, Keane will not be parading his undoubted world class qualities on the same stage as Zinedine Zidane, Rivaldo, Luis Figo and other players of similar standing. It would be naïve of me to suggest this has nothing whatsoever to do with anything Keane may or may not have said, but at the same time I also think there are parties who should be sharing the blame for Keane's absence.
Step forward, Mick McCarthy: it was inexcusable for the manager to question the integrity of his captain in front of the rest of the squad and coaching staff. The Irish manager accused Keane of feigning injury for the last qualifying game against Iran, despite him knowing full well that Keane couldn't play due to a knee injury that had also kept him out of much of United's programme. As if this wasn't bad enough, McCarthy then claimed that Keane didn't care for his country - no wonder Keane blew up. In fact, it is a mystery how McCarthy didn't cop for one.
If McCarthy had a problem with Keane bemoaning the atrocious conditions in which he and the rest of the squad were expected to train in, it should have been dealt with in private - not in front of the rest of the squad. Keane has claimed that the manager wanted him out, and as ridiculous as this sounds, on the evidence it is hard to disagree with that. McCarthy knew Keane would react to his accusations, so why inflame the situation in front of his team mates? Perhaps McCarthy wanted to show once and for all who the boss is, who knows - whatever his reasons for accusing Keane like he did, it was pure and simple disgraceful man-management.
Step forward, the FAI: Keane has been at loggerheads with the FAI for sometime now - remember his disgust at the fact that players had to travel to away games in the cheap seats whilst management and directors enjoyed the luxury of business class? This problem was soon rectified, but it is clear that the lessons weren't learned, judging by what Keane and the rest of the players charged with turning Ireland into a genuine World Cup force had to contend with: a seventeen hour flight, which was four more than necessary (why didn't they fly direct like England?); a training pitch that was hard and resembled a car park, complete with just two goalposts; no training kit; no footballs; they were advised to drink a high-energy drink throughout the tournament, yet it never turned up; amateurish training methods; the lost goes on.
Keane has described it as like 'being on tour with the Dog & Duck', yet claims this was just the tip of the iceberg, albeit an incredibly big tip. But what people are underestimating is the way Keane believes the FAI let him down over the Niall Quinn fiasco. Keane had let it be known to all concerned that he wouldn't make the Quinn testimonial between Sunderland and Ireland, yet that didn't stop the press speculating as to why he didn't show. Why didn't the FAI release a statement to back up what Keane had earlier told them? Instead, they were happy to let their most important player become subject to intense media criticism, whilst he was trying to overcome his injury problems and prepare for a World Cup. Actually, why didn't Quinn himself make comment? Which brings me nicely on to...
Step forward, the 22-man Irish squad: you can understand, if not fully agree with, the stance the rest of the squad showed following the Keane/McCarthy bust-up. They showed solidarity to their manager, and why? Because they didn't want to run the risk of being booted out themselves, which is fair enough. Yet privately, more than a handful of them agreed with Keane - they too are professional footballers, nobody can tell me they were entirely happy with training conditions?
But it is their duty to be publicly seen supporting their manager. But to publicly milk it? Quinn, Steve Staunton, Alan Kelly and Jason McAteer, in particular, were almost positively glowing in their criticism of Keane, making it impossible for their captain to return to the fold. They now claim they don't need Keane, which we all know is more than a tad optimistic. And finally...
Step forward, Roy Keane: I make no secret that Keane is the most important player we have at Old Trafford, and nothing he does could make me feel any less of him. Yet, and I hate to be the one to bring this tired argument up, he is a professional footballer who is fortunate enough to be given a talent that allows him to earn in access of £50,000-per-week, and then some. For the sake of all those fans back in Ireland who idolise him, could he have voiced his concerns, by all means, to McCarthy in private and not in the papers, got his head down and worked for the cause for what is, after all, not likely to be more than four weeks?
But whatever the reasons, whoever the real villain of the piece is, what is certain now is that Keane will take no part in the World Cup. It is a great shame for the player, the team and the Irish fans, and a shame that could have been resolved with that greatest of assets - common sense."
Originally posted by stoned.rose:
<strong>Tommy Doc is one of the bitterist bastards going.
He just can't wait to have a dig at anything United.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Isn't he the one who disgraced himself and the entire club when he got caught nobbing the physios wife?
Regardless what anyone else thinks Roy Keane has gone down a bit in my estimation of him
He's gone up in mine.He has principles and he stuck to them..If only more were like him at least you know where you stand
Keano is the man <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
Keano is the man <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
If Roy Keane is a disgrace to his profession then I am my mum's aunt....Enough already!!!
Fact1: Keane is a model professional
Fact2: Keane gives 150 % in every match
Fact3:Keane has a red-hot temper
Fact4: Keane doesnt feign injury - the fact that he is still playing after that vicious knee injury is testament to his professionalism and character.
Fact5: Keane has a red-hot temper and everyone knows it.
Fact 7: Keane does not feign injury....
Fact 102: Keane has a red-hot temper and speaks his mind....
Fact 103: Keane has a limited vocabulary for expressing anger, unprofessionalism of training staff and FAI and bad management.
Fact 104: Link limited vocab and red-hot temper = verbal argument nobody wants to mention.
Fact 105:Mick McDUNNO must have known this....
Fact 3001: Enough already!!! Criticise Roy Keane's choice of words and his timing BUT NEVER CRITICISE HIS PROFESSIONALISM
<img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
Fact1: Keane is a model professional
Fact2: Keane gives 150 % in every match
Fact3:Keane has a red-hot temper
Fact4: Keane doesnt feign injury - the fact that he is still playing after that vicious knee injury is testament to his professionalism and character.
Fact5: Keane has a red-hot temper and everyone knows it.
Fact 7: Keane does not feign injury....
Fact 102: Keane has a red-hot temper and speaks his mind....
Fact 103: Keane has a limited vocabulary for expressing anger, unprofessionalism of training staff and FAI and bad management.
Fact 104: Link limited vocab and red-hot temper = verbal argument nobody wants to mention.
Fact 105:Mick McDUNNO must have known this....
Fact 3001: Enough already!!! Criticise Roy Keane's choice of words and his timing BUT NEVER CRITICISE HIS PROFESSIONALISM
<img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
Mick McCarthy is a disgrace to his profession.
He is a stupid, blinkered, beligerent oaf.
Docherty is just a bitter little man. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
He is a stupid, blinkered, beligerent oaf.
Docherty is just a bitter little man. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
Keane will never be a disgrace to his profession. I am deeply dissapointed too for Keane that he will not be in the World Cup.
But for all I care, the FAI and Mick McCarthy can go eat thier own asses. They lost the most important player Ireland have and they have no one to blame but themselves.
But for all I care, the FAI and Mick McCarthy can go eat thier own asses. They lost the most important player Ireland have and they have no one to blame but themselves.
Holy Smoke! some of you are so blind...Sure Keano is a great player/leader and legend of Manchester United...
But WTF! He defines unsocialable and unprofessional behavior off the pitch...The way he's slagged his co-workers(of club and the national team) and the fans over the years...it can only be blind love for him... with the nonsense typed in his behalf above.
But WTF! He defines unsocialable and unprofessional behavior off the pitch...The way he's slagged his co-workers(of club and the national team) and the fans over the years...it can only be blind love for him... with the nonsense typed in his behalf above.
Originally posted by LABOB:
<strong>Holy Smoke! some of you are so blind...Sure Keano is a great player/leader and legend of Manchester United...
But WTF! He defines unsocialable and unprofessional behavior off the pitch...The way he's slagged his co-workers(of club and the national team) and the fans over the years...it can only be blind love for him... with the nonsense typed in his behalf above.
Most of those he has criticised have deserved it.
As a captain he has a right (duty?) to publicly state his views about effort of players, professionalism of support staff etc. Hopefully, it stops the players slacking and makes the administrators improve.
His complaints about the fans are aimed at the prawn sandwich brigade. These are people who turn up because they have tickets and it is the place to go. When the football bubble bursts they will move on without a thought about the game. Half of them probably have no interest in what happens on the pitch. When criticising the atmosphere at OT, Keano usually says our support at away games is great. It is clear who he is complaining about. Most fans probably agree with him. These people are at the game at the expense of some proper fan, often because they have been given a ticket or got it through business connections. Short term it's good to get their money but they won't show any loyalty when we struggle or the game drops a bit in profile.
Originally posted by LABOB:
<strong>Holy Smoke! some of you are so blind...Sure Keano is a great player/leader and legend of Manchester United...
But WTF! He defines unsocialable and unprofessional behavior off the pitch...The way he's slagged his co-workers(of club and the national team) and the fans over the years...it can only be blind love for him... with the nonsense typed in his behalf above.
Well firstly on a prick would actually say something like 'holy smoke'
And whenever he has criticised the players it has been because they have deserved it, and I think its a lot better that he speaks his mind than just pretending everythings great and at the same time he has never actually singled out a player for abuse so its unlikely to affect anyone in a negative way, as for 'slagging off' the fans, he made a comment after the Kiev game about the suits and he also said in that interview that the hardcore reds were the best in the country. Now how many United fans don't slag off the suits because I know I do and theres been plenty of times this season when Keane has praised the fans and he always mention the fans deserving better when the team feck up.