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IF he comes to United this summer, I would expect Nike pay his transfer fee.
It's not unreasonable.
It's not unreasonable.
Originally posted by Jens:
I´m going to floor the next guy that mentions Ronaldo and Nike in the same sentence.
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I know, it is getting out of hand but I still wouldn't mind having the world's best player in our team (maybe biased)!
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>In that case, why would it be in their best interests that he move to United ? Why not just keep him at Inter and save the money. It's not like Nike nor the player are hurting for cash.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The world's best team, with the world's best (cough, cough) player.
Purely for the marketing value.
I suspect Nike would have made Ronaldo a Brazilian citizen, had he not already been one.
Originally posted by Jens:
<strong>I´m going to floor the next guy that mentions Ronaldo and Nike in the same sentence.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ronaldo... and... Nike! - C'mon give it your best shot
Originally posted by Jens:
<strong>I´m going to floor the next guy that mentions Ronaldo and Nike in the same sentence.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If Ronaldo moves to Manchester United, I wonder if Nike will have anything to do with it.
Originally posted by DanishDevil:
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Ronaldo... and... Nike! - C'mon give it your best shot </strong><hr></blockquote>
It looks like there's a line forming...
Originally posted by PhillipVIII:
<strong>we can make $$ off Ronaldo.
build a rehab room just for Ronaldo.
sell tickets, charge people 5 bucks to see Ronaldo.
5 bucks more to see his knee cap (in the next room).
$$!
definitely gona be the most utilized room in Manchester.</strong><hr></blockquote>
has dan snyder bought utd?
I would expect Nike pay his transfer fee.<hr></blockquote>
In that case, why didn't Umbro buy Owen or Shearer for us? What a load of crap
Originally posted by blythy:
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In that case, why didn't Umbro buy Owen or Shearer for us? What a load of crap </strong><hr></blockquote>
How would buying English players increase Umbro's profile abroad? Not taking anything away from Umbro, but they do not have nearly the amount of resources that Nike do.
Originally posted by blythy:
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In that case, why didn't Umbro buy Owen or Shearer for us? What a load of crap </strong><hr></blockquote>
ah... but Nike did tell Ronaldo to move to Inter! If he moves to United they'd make buckets loads thro' mrechandise in the far east.. this due to our and Ronaldo's popularity over there!!
Originally posted by giggzy:
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ah... but Nike did tell Ronaldo to move to Inter! </strong><hr></blockquote>
And Inter then payed his buy out clause. He doesn't have such a thing at Inter, and they don't have to sell him. And if they don't want to sell him, they won't.
Geesh, we are not going to pay tens of millions for a striker whose fitness is still a major doubt. And don't give me that nonsence about Nike paying his fee, it doesn't happen in the real world.
Originally posted by Amir:
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Geesh, we are not going to pay tens of millions for a striker whose fitness is still a major doubt. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, I mean when would United ever spend millions on a striker with dodgy knees...
Originally posted by -Rob-:
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Yeah, I mean when would United ever spend millions on a striker with dodgy knees...
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A striker who had ONE injury and got over it and played a couple of months for PSV with no problems is one thing. A player who had two similar serious injuries over two years and had another aborted come back since then AND is now injured again and doubtful for the semi finals is quite another.
Insurance costs would be higher than the fee probably.
Originally posted by Amir:
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And don't give me that nonsence about Nike paying his fee, it doesn't happen in the real world.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Real World? Don't be so naive...
You might be surprised what happens behind closed doors when it comes to big business.
After all, Nike is an American company...
Originally posted by Amir:
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A striker who had ONE injury and got over it and played a couple of months for PSV with no problems is one thing. A player who had two similar serious injuries over two years and had another aborted come back since then AND is now injured again and doubtful for the semi finals is quite another.
Insurance costs would be higher than the fee probably.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I accept that Ronaldo's injury problems have been worse than Ruud's but Ronaldo is starting to look like he is back to his best. The fact that United have showed that they are willing to gamble on spending millions on a striker who has suffered from injuries in the past indicates that they may be willing to do it again.
Ruud played two months at PSV last year but didn't play that well. Yet United signed him on what they had seen of him BEFORE his injury. Ronaldo was some player two years ago and there is no reason why under the correct manager (Sir Alex) he can't get back to his best.
Originally posted by -Rob-:
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The fact that United have showed that they are willing to gamble on spending millions on a striker who has suffered from injuries...</strong><hr></blockquote>
INJURY, not injuries. Thats the main difference. Ronaldo hasn't had a clear three-month run in several years. Ruud had ONE injury and he has shown his fully fit physically before we signed even, even if he was lacking match fitness and sharpeness.
Ronaldo has not proven anything. I don't think he's really shown he is back to his best either. We'd be wiser looking for the new Ronaldo rather than the old one.
As for the 'Real world' and Nike, well, frankly, I don't see any sports company spending tens of millions to get a player from one team to another, unless we are talking about moving a player from a small club to a big one. People can day dream ofcource and well, they can enjoy.
I like to live in reality.
Originally posted by yaps:
<strong>...Nike don't exactly need the money...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Nike don't need to exploit labor laws in third world countries, either.
Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
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Inter may not have as much say over him leaving as they'd like. Perhaps they want to offload him before his contract runs out or he gets injured again? Maybe they are fed up with paying for an injured player?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Inter have all the say as it's up to them. Yes, they could well sell him before his contract runs out, but if they decide to keep him at all costs - they will.
Originally posted by Jens:
<strong>I´m going to floor the next guy that mentions Ronaldo and Nike in the same sentence.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ronaldo & Nike
Originally posted by Norwegian Red:
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Ronaldo & Nike </strong><hr></blockquote>
That's not a full sentence though
Originally posted by Red Sun:
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Nike don't need to exploit labor laws in third world countries, either.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> innit.
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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That's not a full sentence though
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Yep, I'm too afraid to be floored... (but I almost did make a sentence though) <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" />
Originally posted by jedi master yoda:
<strong>do you people really think grand master ferguson will let his decisions, especially team selection, be influenced by idiots in suits, especially from Nike</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes I do. I am not convinced that Ronaldo played in the 1998 World Cup final because of purely football reasons. If Nike have that influence over Brazil for a world cup final how much influence on United for a game against a low ranking premiership side?
Obviously Fergie will resist pressure from Nike but his decisions are influenced by many factors. Sure he has the final say but he allows input from others. Before deciding if a player is fit he consults with various medical staff and the player, possibly others (his assistant for example). Same before deciding who to rest. Can we be sure none of these will be 'got at'?
Also why was Seb continually picked when he was clearly out of form? Perhaps it is easier to play a big name, expensive foreign star than to drop him and cop the flak. What would our investment be worth if other clubs knew that our expensive signing did not fit in? The press had a field day about Seb being a waste of money. Imagine if he had been in the reserves for half the season. Clearly there are issues off the field to be considered.
Players like Veron and Ronaldo are great if they fit in. When they don't they can cause major problems for the manager. Add in the history of injuries and the likely price and I would be very cautious about signing Ronaldo. Having said that - I will support Fergie's judgement. I hope he remembers we need a lot of money to fix the defence!
Originally posted by Due South:
<strong>Hey! I just heard a rumour that Nike was going to buy Tiger Woods for UTD.....Apparently he is going to replace Barthez in goals ....Tiger never misses the ball.
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Top idea. He also plays with a much smaller, harder ball than the FIFA standard so should be unbelievable when he uses a regulation football
While we're at it I'd get them to sign Eric Bristow for us, the consistency with which he hits such a small target should make the striker's role a doddle.