Roland Garros - 2003 French Open

sidsutton

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Second slam of the year!

That useless turd Federer. :mad: <---borrowed mad face from Elfie

I had a nibble each way with Federer and he gets dumped out in straight sets by Luis Horna!

I've gone for a Ferrero/Coria final in the men's.

Women is very much wide open. Serena is probably slight favourite until someone steps up and beats her in a slam but I fancy Henin to win this year. I'd prefer her over Clijsters anyway.
 
Other seeds to have gone out include Corretja and Srichaphan for the men.

Only Likhovtseva for the femmes, je pense!
 
Oh, Alexandra Stevenson is the other women's seed out. Dr. J must be embarassed to have produced such a loser.
 
Henman looks like he might even manage his customary first round win. It's all happening in Paris.
 
Yeah, decent result for Henman. Don't result Rusedski to do the same.

Defending champ Albert Costa hanging on by the skin of his teeth, just sneeked out the 3rd set.
 
Not fit enough to win though.

Ta da Gregory.
 
Well they're both pretty wank really. I have no great expectations of either.
 
^ Very pretty though, just needs to eat a little bit more. Got beaten by an American teen, good game it was too.
 
Originally posted by One_hit_wonder:
<strong>^ Very pretty though, just needs to eat a little bit more. Got beaten by an American teen, good game it was too.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Harkleroad wasn't it?Agassi just hangs on
 
Hopefully Agassi is still tired from the Ancic match and Malisse can finish the job!
 
Originally posted by sidsutton:
<strong>Hopefully Agassi is still tired from the Ancic match and Malisse can finish the job!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nope,Agassi wins
 
Originally posted by ManUinOz:
<strong>Lleyton Hewitt knocked out overnight, no Aussies left in the tournament. Bring on Wimbledon tennis wasn't meant to be played on clay.</strong><hr></blockquote>


:eek: By Spaniard Tommy Robredo,Defendind champ Costa narrowly avoids the same thing
 
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Can see the headlines now: Venus fly-trapped

Anyone see her reaction after the game, she seemed on the verge of tears. She praised her opponent, rather condescendingly to me.

Must say I thought Davenport looked under the weather. Didn't think after watching her the other day she'd get far, and she hasn't.
 
Originally posted by shakiraa:
<strong>agassi will win the french open!
and i hope jennifer capriati will win too..</strong><hr></blockquote>
Capriati is already out
 
Originally posted by shakiraa:
<strong>agassi will win the french open!
and i hope jennifer capriati will win too..</strong><hr></blockquote>
Agassi out,losing to Guillermo Coria
 
Originally posted by Melvinyeo:
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Agassi out,losing to Guillermo Coria</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thank feck for that. My Ferrero/Coria final isn't looking too bad of a prediction so far.
 
Men's semi-finals

Coria vs Verkerk

Ferrero vs Costa

Ferrero vs Coria final for me,Costa must be feeling tired after yet another 5 setter with Robredo
 
yessssssssssss get in there Henin

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

go home man beast

true talent comes through

bye bye
 
ALLEZ JUSTINE!!!!
Fabulous result--she's an awesome competitor.
I would love to see her win the title, but at the same time I don't want Kim to lose.

I'm always wondering why I totally despise the Williams sisters. I think their arrogance is what's most offensive. Even now, I'm sure that Serena will say something outrageous in the press conference about how she had a previously-undisclosed injury, or she just didn't play her best tennis--they never give one bit of credit to anyone who beats them (although I think Venus has become a lot more humble lately--I almost feel sorry for her). And the bullshit accusations of racism against anyone who dislikes them are just that--bullshit. I know plenty of people who are big fans of other black athletes (like Chanda or Tiger), but root against the Williams' every time.
 
Originally posted by Ruby:
<strong>ALLEZ JUSTINE!!!!
Fabulous result--she's an awesome competitor.
I would love to see her win the title, but at the same time I don't want Kim to lose.

I'm always wondering why I totally despise the Williams sisters. I think their arrogance is what's most offensive. Even now, I'm sure that Serena will say something outrageous in the press conference about how she had a previously-undisclosed injury, or she just didn't play her best tennis--they never give one bit of credit to anyone who beats them (although I think Venus has become a lot more humble lately--I almost feel sorry for her). And the bullshit accusations of racism against anyone who dislikes them are just that--bullshit. I know plenty of people who are big fans of other black athletes (like Chanda or Tiger), but root against the Williams' every time.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I supported Justine today, but I didn't like the way the crowd was against Serena today. It was like the game between Hingis and Graf a few years ago. Personnally I would never applaud a fault made by a player, that's cruel. I think the audience was against her because 1) she's the number one 2) she had beaten Mauresmo 3) Henin is very popular in France 4) this game was a bit like David against Goliath .I think it's a good thing to see that a good technique can beat powerness, still Serena Williams deserves at least respect.

Another problem is that the father had given a very offensive interview to L'Equipe Magazine just before the tournament that had schocked people. His declarations contribute to make his daughters unpopular, because when you hear them they're not so unpleasant (Serena has cried during the press conference). In this interview he spoke about his childhood in Louisianna. He has suffered from racism as a child but now he sees racism everywhere, in America and Europe. It is as if he was at war with the entire world. For him, people can't stand to see them at the top just because they are black. It is not that simple.
 
Originally posted by Elfie:
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I supported Justine today, but I didn't like the way the crowd was against Serena today. It was like the game between Hingis and Graf a few years ago. Personnally I would never applaud a fault made by a player, that's cruel. I think the audience was against her because 1) she's the number one 2) she had beaten Mauresmo 3) Henin is very popular in France 4) this game was a bit like David against Goliath .I think it's a good thing to see that a good technique can beat powerness, still Serena Williams deserves at least respect.

You are right about that--I hate seeing anyone applauding mistakes like double-faults--Serena was the reigning champion and she certainly deserves respectful treatment. But of course the crowd at Roland Garros would suport Justine--Serena should have expected that!! She's a professional, so she should have just dealt with it.

Another problem is that the father had given a very offensive interview to L'Equipe Magazine just before the tournament that had schocked people. His declarations contribute to make his daughters unpopular, because when you hear them they're not so unpleasant (Serena has cried during the press conference). In this interview he spoke about his childhood in Louisianna. He has suffered from racism as a child but now he sees racism everywhere, in America and Europe. It is as if he was at war with the entire world. For him, people can't stand to see them at the top just because they are black. It is not that simple.</strong><hr></blockquote>


The Williams' father is a strange case. From all accounts he has been a loving father (and there are a lot of really abusive parental relationships in junior-level tennis), but he also says a lot of crazy things (like he decided to have two extra children and raise them to be tennis players when he saw how large the prize winnings were???!!) But I just don't see players like Venus & Serena suffering from racism the way that real pioneers in American sports once did. Arthur Ashe had difficulties finding clubs where he was allowed to play when he was young & Jackie Robinson (he integrated baseball) was also treated horribly. I think that sometimes the Williams' dad overstates the obstacles faced by he and his daughters to simply create a more compelling story. Chanda Rubin is also from Louisiana, I'm sure that she has suffered from racial discrimination to some extent, but yet she is always gracious.
 
Originally posted by Ruby:
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I think that sometimes the Williams' dad overstates the obstacles faced by he and his daughters to simply create a more compelling story. </strong><hr></blockquote>

That's not impossible, given the personality of the guy. I thought it was a form of paranoia...
 
i enjoyed it

watching her being brought down a peg or 2

good to see henin take the piss with that amazing back hand of hers

made the man beast look like a tank at times
 
Must say it is fantastic that those 2 monsters are out. I can not tolerate their power tennis.
 
Originally posted by AhmedDimwitson:
<strong>Must say it is fantastic that those 2 monsters are out. I can not tolerate their power tennis.</strong><hr></blockquote>

agreed mate
 
You can dislike them but to call them "human beasts", "monsters", that's too much. They're human beings and if the father hear words like that no wonder he sees racism everywhere. The esclavagists thought black people were beasts, like animals. Myself I think Serena (not Venus who is taller but thinner) has too many muscles for a girl but words like that are just digusting.
 
Originally posted by Elfie:
<strong>You can dislike them but to call them "human beasts", "monsters", that's too much. They're human beings and if the father hear words like that no wonder he sees racism everywhere. The esclavagists thought black people were beasts, like animals. Myself I think Serena (not Venus who is taller but thinner) has too many muscles for a girl but words like that are just digusting.</strong><hr></blockquote>

whats me calling her a man beast got to do with racism?

she could be blue and i would still call her a man beast

she should join the mens tour then we would see better matches from the women
 
Originally posted by RUDDY:
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whats me calling her a man beast got to do with racism?

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Because in the past that's what white people thought about black people, you know slavery etc...I'm not saying you're a racist but you should use your words more carefully, because words have a sense and an history, a painful history in this case. You can say she has too many muscles but not that way.
 
Originally posted by Elfie:
<strong>

Because in the past that's what white people thought about black people, you know slavery etc...I'm not saying you're a racist but you should use your words more carefully, because words have a sense and an history, a painful history in this case. You can say she has too many muscles but not that way.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Ruddy showing his extensive knowledge of tennis again. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by sidsutton:
<strong>Ruddy showing his extensive knowledge of tennis again. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

why because id rather watch style like henin insted of brute force and power of the williams sisters?

whats that got to do with tennis knowledge?
 
If you think removing the Williams sisters from the women's game would make it a style game instead of a power game then, no, you don't know what you are talking about. Apart from the odd few, they all try and play a power game from the baseline. Is Clijsters a finesse player? Davenport? Capriati? Seles? Dokic?

Look at the young players coming up, the Russians and other East Europeans. Are they playing serve and volley? Are they playing cute angles? No. They go for a big serve and then try to hit powerful groundstrokes off both sides. And topspin off both sides too. Henin succeeds against the power players because she can mix the spins. Mauresmo to a lesser extent but she is shackled by mental frailties. That's also why Conchita Martinez can still hang around the top 20.

Like it or not, the power game is here to stay in the WTA. And it was prevalent before the Williams sisters came along. They just took it to another level. In time someone else will take it to another level after them.