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£20m for new Pele
Manchester United have been told they will have to pay £20million to bring the player known as “the new Pele” to Old Trafford. Sir Alex Ferguson wants 19-year-old Brazilian Robinho – who plays for Santos – to bolster United’s Champions League challenge next season. But the Sao Paulo kid is also being tracked by Inter Milan, Real Madrid and Barcelona. And Pele himself said: “Robinho has the ability to be even better than I was.”
Sports staff, Daily Star Sunday
 
Already discussed in the following thread. Hes good but he hasn't got the caps. :(
Some good posts in there.

<a href="http://www.redcafe.info/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001967" target="_blank">Redcafe Robinho thread</a>

<a href="http://www.soccerage.com/pt/04/36961.html" target="_blank">Soccerage profile</a>
 
He's very different to Cisse and Portillo. Very very skillful.
Cisse is a better all round striker. Portillo looks good also as an out and out striker. Robinho is closer to Ronaldinho.
 
he is shit hot...

no doubt he is better than cisse or ronaldinio...

unfortunatley we can not get a work permitt...

check back through some old threads and you will see stuff i have posted about him...

pele thinks hes the don as well... but you realy need to see him controll a ball a couple of times and you will know what he means... the copa libedores (ok so how do you spell it) has been on eurosport and this kid is realy realy special
 
Originally posted by MrMarcello:
<strong>Is he tall? Does he have the physical frame to handle the rigors of the Premiership?</strong><hr></blockquote>

hes tiny... so was maradona tho... the kid is all aboy skill skill and more skill
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yeah..i think we can forget about him..he have not earn any caps yet..
think he should have lots of problem gettin a work permit..
 
Other countries don't have this law so by the time he's got those caps he will probably be in Italy or Spain, unless we lend him to Antwerp for a couple of seasons. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by MrMarcello:
<strong>Is he tall? Does he have the physical frame to handle the rigors of the Premiership?</strong><hr></blockquote>

For comparision:
Robinho- 173cm 5'7" ------- 61kg/ 134lbs/ 9stn8
DeFoe-----170cm 5'6"------- 65kg/ 144lbs/ 10stn4
Owen------176cm 5'8"-------- 70kg/ 154lbs/ 11stn
Not much difference between Robinho and DeFoe and Owen. Robinho will probably not grow much taller, he turned 19 in January, but he should be able to build up his physique.
And as was said he is all about skill and flair, most exciting young player to emerge this season IMO (including Wayne Rooney).

Going a little off topic but on the subject of prodigies, a rumour that SAF has been tipped off about 14yo american(or ghanian if you prefere :D )- Freddy Adu.
<a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/grant_wahl/news/2003/05/01/wahl_insider/" target="_blank">Journalist gives Fergie Adu tip</a>
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Robinho(its not his real name), looks like Brazilian prefer another R in national side.
 
True...but the MLS offers more competition then a Belgian or Portugese league...now if United loaned him to say PSG or Zaragoza or some club in top flight Spain, Italy, France, or Germany, then yes, he should choose that route...but the MLS is not as crap as most think...it's actually a decent league and I would rate the MLS on par with French first division, and above Scotland, Greece, Turkey, etc.

I think it would be good, especially marketing wise, for United to tie up an agreement with a MLS club. Especially to send young guys and players recovering from injuries to get a few games in during the summer.
 
Originally posted by MrMarcello:
<strong>True...but the MLS offers more competition then a Belgian or Portugese league...now if United loaned him to say PSG or Zaragoza or some club in top flight Spain, Italy, France, or Germany, then yes, he should choose that route...but the MLS is not as crap as most think...it's actually a decent league and I would rate the MLS on par with French first division, and above Scotland, Greece, Turkey, etc.

I think it would be good, especially marketing wise, for United to tie up an agreement with a MLS club. Especially to send young guys and players recovering from injuries to get a few games in during the summer.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Its not as crap as it was the MLS but it has a way to go. How many players does the MLS supply to the top european teams? Or note that only one american has got as far as a CL quarter final -O'Brien of Ajax.

Now Robinho to Sporting sounds plausible.
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loaning him out the MLS would be incredibly stupid, the quality of defenders is horrendous and he would most likely get injured in a clumsy challenge
 
You can actually get a WP if the club can justify it by saying that the player would add to the quality of the premiership, i've heard.
Juninho didn't qualify for a work permit the first time at Boro. In fact i think he still doesn't. Is there any chance of an approach like that working?
The club could show the FA his multiple step over trick. ;)
BTW the Brazilian coach has said he won't bow to public pressure and cap him. Bastard wont hep us out at all.
 
Originally posted by alex hurley:
<strong>You can actually get a WP if the club can justify it by saying that the player would add to the quality of the premiership, i've heard.
Juninho didn't qualify for a work permit the first time at Boro. In fact i think he still doesn't. Is there any chance of an approach like that working?
The club could show the FA his multiple step over trick. ;)
BTW the Brazilian coach has said he won't bow to public pressure and cap him. Bastard wont hep us out at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Were there not rumblings about changing the work permit law? Its a real toughie, hence the Sporting and Nantes deals.
;)
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Originally posted by redinsyd:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

It's worse!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Its probably evolved at a comparable level to the dutch league lately. Trouble is, no foreign youngster should be subjected to playing in a country and culture where football is so unimportant. It would work for local kids, but not for a highly rated youngster from Brazil.
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Welcome for the new Pele! Brazil is producing a new Pele every two or three years in recent decades. So I'm already expecting that the new one should be around the corner. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

I've looked at Robinho's photo once. He is slim. He will easily be blown out of the stadium by a strong defender if he plays in England now! :D
 
Somehow all you guys seem to think that the Brazilian, Uruguayan and Argentinian defenders Robinho has been facing are a bunch of sissies relative to EPL defenders <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
<strong>Welcome for the new Pele! Brazil is producing a new Pele every two or three years in recent decades. So I'm already expecting that the new one should be around the corner. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

I've looked at Robinho's photo once. He is slim. He will easily be blown out of the stadium by a strong defender if he plays in England now! :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Some healthy skepticism, but he does have remarkeable skill, even by brazillian standards. He looks puny when facing big defenders but he beats them just the same, they just look clumsy next to him. And apparently he gets plenty of the: 'touch that ball and I'll break you're legs' and is not fazed at all.
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I like the guy's head. I mean, he is not some silly wanker who will spoil his talent by going random.

He is from very humble origins and very down to earth. His mother was from far up north and was "given away" as a 12 year old to a couple from Sao Paulo and then as a 14 year old to a couple in Santos. Nothing abnormal, nothing to do with not loving your child, sometimes even the opposite: letting go to make sure they can eat and survive and maybe even get a proper education.

It was "Mother's Day" here in Brazil last Sunday and guess what the guy did?

He used the media's interest in him to his own benefit, getting one of the channels to find her mother's original parents and reuniting her with them on her day. Of course he had to endure some tacky Jerry Springer type thing but he did get his family back together again.

I think it is very healthy for him to look into the simple things rather than think aboout fast cars and attempting to buy his way into happiness.
 
Originally posted by antohan:
<strong>I like the guy's head. I mean, he is not some silly wanker who will spoil his talent by going random.

He is from very humble origins and very down to earth. His mother was from far up north and was "given away" as a 12 year old to a couple from Sao Paulo and then as a 14 year old to a couple in Santos. Nothing abnormal, nothing to do with not loving your child, sometimes even the opposite: letting go to make sure they can eat and survive and maybe even get a proper education.

It was "Mother's Day" here in Brazil last Sunday and guess what the guy did?

He used the media's interest in him to his own benefit, getting one of the channels to find her mother's original parents and reuniting her with them on her day. Of course he had to endure some tacky Jerry Springer type thing but he did get his family back together again.

I think it is very healthy for him to look into the simple things rather than think aboout fast cars and attempting to buy his way into happiness.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nice story Antohan, refreshing.
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