Rivals Draft R1 - Michael vs harms

Who will win the match?


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TEAM MICHAELF

My team will play a 4-2-3-1 formation. I will now provide some details of what I consider to be my teams strengths and/or advantages in this match up. Further details on the players at these particular clubs will be provided in the match thread.

  • My teams attack down the right hand flank particularly given I do not notice any specialist LB's in my opponent's team. In his 5 seasons at Palmeiras, Arce was always included in the ideal team of the America's (finishing joint 2nd in the South American Footballer of the Year in 1999) and won the Bola de Prata as the best RB in the Braziian top flight in 1998, 2000 and 2001. Arce was a brilliant crosser from both set pieces and open play with this post describing him as the best he'd seen. Arce is complimented by Mbappe who during his time at PSG has always been in the Ligue 1 team of the season (excluding 19-20 where this team wasn't selected), has been the Ligue 1 Player of the Year every time bar 1 (excluding 19-20 where this award was not given) and has been Ligue 1 top goalscorer 5 times (out of 6).
  • Goals win matches and I feel like my team has many goalscoring threats. In addition to Mbappe mentioned earlier Jose Manuel Moreno, who in 1980 was given the Konex Platinum Award as the best player in the history of Argentine Football, between 1936 and 1939 in the Argentine league scored 24 in 33, 32 in 31, 24 in 31, and 20 in 24. Striker Ove Kindvall in his 5 years at Feyenoord finished as the top goalscorer in the Dutch league 3 times (67/68, 68/69 and 70/71) finishing 4= (with Cruyff) in the 1969 Ballon d'Or
  • I feel like the abilities of my central defensive pairing mesh well with the pace, strength and aerial ability of Sol Campbell being partnered by Anatoli Bashashkin who during his 2 spells at CSKA was chosen by the National Coaches Council as the best player in his position 4 times (50, 51, 55 and 56). When former teammate and future CSKA and USSR manager Valentin Nikolayev said that Beckenbauer reminded him of Bashashkin "In terms of physique, style of play and behavior on the field, reliability and technique of playing on defense, speed, game thinking, if they were put side by side, it would be indistinguishable from each other. Of course, this only applied to defensive actions, attacking raids with the completion of attacks, which Beckenbauer brilliantly practiced, were not encouraged in our times." (Source) In 2003 former Lokomotiv Moscow and USSR striker Valentin Bubukin described Bashashkin's ball playing abilities as follows "Bashashkin began to organize the attack of his team. Instantly assessing the situation on the field, he gave an accurate pass to a partner in a better position" (Source). Bubukin concluded that "I am firmly convinced that Anatoly Vasilyevich would still be one of the strongest central defenders in European football today." (Source)

TEAM HARMS

The inspiration for this team is, hopefully, clear – it’s a traditional W-M formation that was reinvigorated by Guardiola this season by moving Stones (Marquinhos in this case) in midfield. It fits my oldies quite well – inside-left Vukas and inside-right Bobek slot into their roles perfectly (both were quite all-rounded attackers – creative, outstanding dribblers and goalscorers) and Julinho taking up his usual role as an outside right (Brazil only switched to front 4 with his successor, Garrincha). Before City did it this season I didn’t think that it was possible to recreate with so many defenders (who are good but not truly outstanding with the ball) but now I wanted to try it for myself – and there’s no doubt that the technical ability of my front 6 (excluding Marquinhos) is simply outstanding.

At the back I have the cool head of René Henriksen (Danish player of the year in 2000, during his stint at Panathinaikos), a defender who relied more on his reading on the game than on physique, surrounded by physical monsters in Ruggeri and Fernandes. The latter played in every defensive role on the right – from centre back to wing back – and with his height and athleticism he would be a great Walker replacement; Ruggeri was usually deployed centrally even though he had spent a lot of his peak in a back three and his pace and experience would help me a lot on the left. Marquinhos is obviously there in a hybrid role, dropping deeper in the defensive phase – I wanted to have a defender with a significant experience of playing in midfield at the highest level and he’s certainly the one for the job. Ardiles is partnering him in midfield engine and he’s going to help my team a lot under pressure with his dribbling skills and endless stamina.

I’ve already spoke about Vukas & Bobek – two of Yugoslavia’s all-time greats – who slot in nicely in their natural roles and up front they’re partnered with Henrik Larsson: a very complete striker who will serve as a point of reference in the opposing box. While on the right we have the original right wing wizard from Brazil, Julinho, on the right it’s Paulo Futre, one of the greatest wingers of the 80’s who at his peak finished 2nd in a Ballon d’Or vote (on the back of his last season at Porto).

Bernard Vukas:
In 2000, he was voted by the Croatian Football Federation as the best Croatian player of all Time, and in a poll by Večernji List, he was voted the best Croatian athlete of the 20th century.

He came to Hajduk Split in 1947 and stayed there until 1957, playing 202 games and scoring 89 goals. With Hajduk, Vukas won the Yugoslav First League title on three occasions, in 1950, 1952 and 1955, and he was the league's top scorer in the 1954–55 season with 20 goals. In 1950, Vukas helped Hajduk win the Yugoslav First League undefeated, a record which has never been broken.

Stjepan Bobek:
Usually a forward or attacking midfielder, Bobek was renowned for his technique, vision and goalscoring ability and is commonly regarded as one of Yugoslavia's greatest players.

During his time in Partizan, he played 468 games and scored 403 goals, still holding the club record. Bobek won two Yugoslav League titles and the Yugoslav Cup four times. He was the top scorer of the Yugoslav First League twice, in 1945 (25 goals) and 1954 (21 goals).

Julinho:
Best right winger that Brazil had before Garrincha came along. At 1960, during his stint at Palmeiras, he was included in World Soccer's World XI. A highly creative, talented, and dynamic player, with a slender build, Julinho usually played as a right winger, where he operated as a playmaker, and was known for his speed, vision, tactical sense, powerful shooting ability, and dribbling skills, which enabled him to cut into the centre and shoot on goal or create chances for other players. He was also known for his ability to build attacking plays, or get to the touchline and deliver accurate curling crosses to his teammates.

Eddy Graafland:
3rd best Dutch keeper of the XXth century behind van der Sar and van Breukelen according to IFFHS and Feyenoord's greatest ever keeper.

René Henriksen:
A classy libero-ish centre back, Dutch Footballer of the Year during his time at Panathinaikos.

Mario Fernandes:
An undoubted positional GOAT of Russian football – it doesn't say much but if not for religious reasons (he found God in Russia and was very reluctant to leave the country despite having options) he would've became a really great player, I do genuinely believe so. He had all necessary tools to do so – pace, athleticism, outstanding one-on-one and pretty great technically. Hopefully people remember his performance from the 2018 World Cup where he had shown his true level to a wider audience than he was able to at CSKA Moscow.
 
Harms team looks lovely with some juicy combinations but that’s a kryptonite right flank from Michael.
 
I'm pretty happy with Ruggeri on Mbappé to be fair. Relatively happy.
And I'm not a fan of Deco in this role, especially against my overcrowded midfield.
 
As promised further details on players:

Toni Schumacher (Fenerbache): Spent 3 seasons at Fenerbache (88/89-90/91) when aged 34-37. In 1988 and 1989 he shared the Footballer of the Year Award in Turkey as well as winning the Most Successful Foreign Athlete of the Year in Turkey award. After originally retiring aftwe leaving Fenerbache, he was signed by Bayern Munich in October 1991 to play in goal when their top 2 goalkeepers were both injured.

Francisco Arce (Palmeiras): Arce was at Palmeiras for 5 seasons between 1998 and 2002. During those 5 seasons Arce was always included in the ideal team of the America's (finishing joint 2nd in the South American Footballer of the Year in 1999) and won the Bola de Prata as the best RB in the Brazilian top flight in 1998, 2000 and 2001. Arce's strengths were his crossing and free kicks.

Sol Campbell (Tottenham Hotspur): Campbell was at Tottenham between 1992 and 2001 being included in the PFA Team of the Year for 1998/99 and winning 40 England caps between 1996 and 2001 while at Spurs. When he left Tottenham, both Barcelona and AC Milan were interested in him before he signed for Arsenal. Campbell's strengths included pace, strength and aerial ability.

Anatoli Bashashkin (CSKA Moscow): Bashashkin spent two spells at CSKA Moscow from 1947-1952 and from 1954-1958. He played for Spartak Moscow after CSKA Moscow was dissolved by Stalin and Beria following the USSR's defeat to Yugoslavia at the 1952 Olympics with Bashashkin also losing the National Team Captaincy. While at CSKA Moscow, he was chosen by the National Coaches Council as the best player in his position 4 times (1950, 1951, 1955 and 1956) with Bashashkin also finishing 1st in 1953 while at Spartak Moscow and the list not being chosen in 1954. In 1952 no CSKA players were chosen as the best 3 in their position, despite 5 players being in the Olympics squad (including 4 who played in a majority of the USSR's matches) and having 8 1st's, 1 2nd and 1 3rd in the previous years award which suggests that the National Coaches Council were not willing to risk Stalin's anger given his reaction to the Olympics defeat mentioned earlier. In 2003, Valentin Babukin who played for the USSR national team and played at club level for Lokomotiv Moscow during Bashashkin's era, opined that he thought that Bashashkin would still be one of the best CB's in European Football today (in 2003) (Source). Former club and national teammate (as well as future CSKA and USSR National Team Manager) Valentin Nikolayev said that Beckenbauer reminded him of Bashashkin in the following way:

In terms of physique, style of play and behavior on the field, reliability and technique of playing on defense, speed, game thinking, if they were put side by side, it would be indistinguishable from each other. Of course, this only applied to defensive actions, attacking raids with the completion of attacks, which Beckenbauer brilliantly practiced, were not encouraged in our times.
(Source)

Babukin also described Bashashkin's on ball abilities as follows:

Bashashkin began to organize the attack of his team. Instantly assessing the situation on the field, he gave an accurate pass to a partner in a better position
(Source)

Tommy Gemmell (Celtic): In my opinion the greatest ever Scottish LB (with only Andy Robertson as a rival), Tommy Gemmell made 247 league appearances for Celtic in 10 years from 1961 to 1971 winning league titles in his last 6 seasons at the club in addition to 18 caps for Scotland and winning the 1967 European Cup (scoring in both that final and defeat in the 1970 final). Gemmell was 2 footed and capable of playing on either side was a good tackler and had a powerful shot. Gemmell finished 6th in the 1967 Ballon d'Or.

Zlatko Čajkovski (Partizan Belgrade): Cajkovski spent 10 years at Partizan between 1945 and 1955 during which time he won 2 league titles (never finishing lower than 6th) and 3 cup titles while winning 55 Yugoslavia caps. Cajkovski had high levels of stamina and tenacity as well as great marking skills and metronomic passing. His zigzag dribbling style also made him difficult to predict when he chose to run with the ball. Here are some quotes from this @Enigma_87 post with more details on Cajkovski:

His jump and header was something special. He never marked opposition's attacker so closely, when the ball was in the air and going toward them. First, he always knew where the ball is going to fall, and then when he realized where the ball is going, he would start to run and then jumped (that gave him advantage in the air, because everybody else waited for the ball, and then jumped from the place they were standing all that time). Using all of these things (his jump, reading of the game, positioning), he was often superior in the air, even when he guarded much higher players.

Hungarian national team coach from '50s, Gusztáv Sebes, gave a statement, after seeing friendly game between Partizan and Honved, that before the game he couldn't decide who is better half player in Europe, Čajkovski or Bozsik. After the game he was completely sure that Čajkovski is the best half player in Europe.

Čik had a lot of legendary duels with the opposition attackers, during his career, but one probably stands out from the others. Partizan was on the South-American tour and they had to play against Peñarol (beside other teams). The day of the game came, players came out on the field, referee was there, fans were there, but the start of the game was being postponed. Partizan players were wondering what is happening, and than they saw. 10-15 minutes after the game should start, the biggest star of Peñarol, Schiaffino, was coming on the field, with the crowd cheering like they were in trans. While he was coming on the field, Bobek said something to Čik, that probably struck the nerve. Čik was very eager to play, and he couldn't wait for the game start. Since the game started and right until the end, Schiaffino couldn't be found on the field. He was so outplayed by Čik, that he couldn't receive the ball for 15 minutes in a row. On top of that Čik dribbled, assisted and joined the attack. Miloš Milutinović later said that all Partizan players knew, that after that "movie star" entrance made by Schiaffino and Bobek's words, Čajkovski is going to be the best player on the field.

Deco (Porto): Deco made 148 league appearances for Porto in 5 seasons between 1999 and 2004. He finished 2nd in the 2004 Ballon d'Or as winning the Portuguese League Footballer of the Year Award in the 2003/2004 season. Deco was hard-working, tactically intelligent, and had great ball control, dribbling and passing skills which helped him create chances often through passing lanes that no one else had spotted.

José Manuel Moreno (River Plate): Moreno played for 13 seasons in 2 spells at River 1935-1944 and 1946-1948 winning 6 league titles (interesting trivia: Moreno was the first player to win top flight league titles in 4 different countries). In 1999 IFFHS chose him as one of the 25 best footballers of the 20th century and in 1980 was given the Konex Platinum Award as the best player in the history of Argentine Football. In this post from 2005 at bigsoccer argentine soccer fan describes Moreno as follows:

He was a complete player with great ball skills who could play right, left, anywhere on the the field, went back to retrieve the ball, defended, and joined the attack, and was very capable of both creating chances and finishing them.

In this post @Pat_Mustard posted a profile which described Moreno as follows:

Moreno had the permanent magnetic presence of a rotating star for the fans. Very few came so close to such a unanimous admiration of the general public, and the attraction of multitudes of people to witness his masterful goals, his combinations, his dribbling, his vigorous headers (each cross from Peucelle that Moreno headed was generally a goal, especially in the NT) and elasticity, his conduction of attacks, his job as a hard worker for the ball in the back-line to build up progress going forward, his unsurpassed resistance, and his Apollo-like athletic figure that was admired by the people. He was the leader for his clubs and the NT. He had it all: speed, skill, mischief, and a panoramic view of the entire field which was a repertoire that made him as complete as anyone. He was a winner that gave his all and demanded all from his teammates. No one was more valiant than him – capable of playing injured with blood dripping or his tooth’s knocked out. His total personality brought the stands to their feet with the magnetism that’s reserved for the true idols – that was Moreno, an irreplaceable figure, which left a trail of unforgettable memories.

Kylian Mbappe (PSG): Kylian Mbappe has spent 6 seasons so far at PSG scoring 148 league goals in 176 league appearances. Mbappe has been the Ligue 1 top goalscorer for each of the last 5 seasons. Excluding the 19/20 season where awards weren't given, during his time at PSG Mbappe has always been in the Ligue 1 team of the season and has been the Ligue 1 Player of the Year 4 out of 5 times.

Ove Kindvall (Feyenoord): During his 5 seasons at Feyenoord Ove Kindvall finished as the top goalscorer in the Dutch league 3 times (67/68, 68/69 and 70/71) scoring 129 league goals in 144 league games for Feyenoord overall and finishing 4= (with Cruyff) in the 1969 Ballon d'Or. In this post at PES Miti del Calcio JeanMarc describes Kindvall as follows:

A player with fantastic sense for a goal and real danger in the box. He had fantastic acceleration, in first 10 meters his speed was amazing. Mobile striker with very high leap. He was used even in deep lying striker position but even as a attacking midfielder, especially in NT matches. Kindvall’s was an uncomplicated pattern. He didn’t particularly go in for complex dribbles or firing in powerful shots from distance. He was a goalscorer and concentrated on the skills that helped him to achieve that end. The first ten metres, where the initial pace is generated by the speed of thought and an ability to identify and exploit opportunities, was one of Kindvall’s most potent weapons. Add in that uncanny ability granted to all great goalscorers to know where and when to be in order to score, and Kindvall had the complete package.

Ivica Šurjak (Hajduk Split): Surjak spent 10 years at Hajduk between 1971 and 1981 winning 3 Yugoslav league titles and in the league scoring 52 goals in 272 games. Surjak started his career as a LB but could play in many positions (particularly in the national team where he could play up front or in central midfield to accommodate Dzajic. Surjak's best skills were his pace and crossing.
 
Gone for harms by a whisker. I think Deco in this setup is a bit lightweight against that square of harms.