Rio would be great but what about a keeper?

[MancFanFromManc]

Signing Rio would be awesome. I think we should keep well clear of Thuram (not another French defender pleeeeease) and Nesta (would struggle with the Prem pace).

But what really concerns me is Fab. I know we can never replace Smikes but surely we need a commanding presence between the sticks. Someone solid to give his defence confidence.

Rustu was talked about before the World Cup and he's the main reason why Turkey (who??) have gone so far.

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
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Rustu was talked about before the World Cup and he's the main reason why Turkey (who??) have gone so far.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So? If we want to sign a keeper by his world cup performances, we can sign Rustu. Or we can sign that guy who plays for France, he was good too.

I would be very happy keeping the keeping situation as it is. I should start a campaiqn with this slogan.. 'keep our keeper'.

 

[Dans]

Dear Amir,

Are you Elfie in disguise?

Are you Elfie in disguise, are you Elfie, are you Elfie, are you Elfie in diguise?

Are you Elfie in disguise?

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>Are you Elfie in disguise?</strong><hr></blockquote>

In a nutshell...

No.

I think...

 

[Dans]

Barthez out, Barthez out.

 

[Davo]

I'm going to ask Ahmed for his expert opinion on whether Bobo should be replaced, on the grounds that he's a dodgy keeper..

He'll know

 

[Due South]

Barthez is just plain dodgy....there is no kinder way to put it....Does nt know when to come or stay...cant take crosses and lost all ability to read the game....hence no big match saves.
New slogan:
Bobo must go!!!Free Bobo!!!

<img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

 

[Sambora]

What surprised me is why we didnt try to get Chris Kirkland? Great potential who doesnt seem to mind learning his trade like he is at scouseland.

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by Sambora:
<strong>What surprised me is why we didnt try to get Chris Kirkland? Great potential who doesnt seem to mind learning his trade like he is at scouseland.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I suppose it's because we got Roy Carroll.

 

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>Barthez out, Barthez out.</strong><hr></blockquote>



Behind a strong defence, having learnt the lessons from last year, there's no rasons Fab can't do well next year. Last year wasn't his usual standard. Against Uruguay he has shown he could still produce great football.

 

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Due South:
<strong>Barthez is just plain dodgy....there is no kinder way to put it....Does nt know when to come or stay...cant take crosses and lost all ability to read the game....hence no big match saves.
New slogan:
Bobo must go!!!Free Bobo!!!

<img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

feck off. Ferguson will decide anyway.

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by Elfie:
<strong>



Behind a strong defence, having learnt the lessons from last year, there's no rasons Fab can't do well next year. Last year wasn't his usual standard. Against Uruguay he has shown he could still produce great football.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It was the defence;s fault last year that Bobo kept running out of the area for no reason and throwing the ball to the opposition attackers..

 

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>Dear Amir,

Are you Elfie in disguise?

Are you Elfie in disguise, are you Elfie, are you Elfie, are you Elfie in diguise?

Are you Elfie in disguise?</strong><hr></blockquote>

He's not Elfie in disguise, and I'm not the only one to like him. But I think there are a few "Redpie" in disguise on this forum !

 

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>

It was the defence;s fault last year that Bobo kept running out of the area for no reason and throwing the ball to the opposition attackers..</strong><hr></blockquote>

What you can't understand twat it's that he has always played like that, trying to cut the actions before the ball came into in his net by ANTICIPATING. Obviously when it works nobody notices. When it doesn't it's awful but in the past it worked.

If you consider the Arsenal game where the Arse had 17 shots vs 3 for us, don't say to me he was the only problem that day...Some here (I remember some posts by Giggzy, Livvie, and some others who had the intelligence to see that).

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by Elfie:
<strong>

What you can't understand twat it's that he has always played like that, trying to cut the actions before the ball came into in his net by ANTICIPATING. Obviously when it works nobody notices. When it doesn't it's awful but in the past it worked.

If you consider the Arsenal game where the Arse had 17 shots vs 3 for us, don't say to me he was the only problem that day...Some here (I remember some posts by Giggzy, Livvie, and some others who had the intelligence to see that).</strong><hr></blockquote>

Is it also ANTICIPATING when he dribbles the ball out for no reason and gets caught?

Is Bobo your dad?

 

[Sambora]

Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>

I suppose it's because we got Roy Carroll.</strong><hr></blockquote>


we didnt have carroll at the time, and kirkland was available.

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by Sambora:
<strong>


we didnt have carroll at the time, and kirkland was available.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Kirkland was available, Carroll was available. We went for Roy, I am quite pleased with his performances.

Mind you, Kirkland cost something like 7-8m I think. I'm not sure we had that kind of money to spend on a back up keeper after the outlay on Ruud and Seba.

 

[MancFanFromManc]

Chaps,

I'm sat here watching Rustu have a blinder against Brazil (not that they know anything about attacking football eh).

Mind you, now I've said that, I'm now waiting for the Fab-like clanger

 

[blythy]

We have two good keepers

 

[Dans]

Elfie's rattled........again

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
<strong>I'm sat here watching Rustu have a blinder against Brazil (not that they know anything about attacking football eh).</strong><hr></blockquote>

So should we sign a player in a not-so-delicate position as goalkeeper on account of a good World Cup?

 

[MancFanFromManc]

CLANGER! Right on cue. Mebbe a bit harsh, but still.... <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />

 

[MancFanFromManc]

Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>

So should we sign a player in a not-so-delicate position as goalkeeper on account of a good World Cup?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Having a good WC helps. But its not purely on his WC performances. He's been raved about for some time now.

 

[Neil Thomson]

Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
<strong>

Having a good WC helps. But its not purely on his WC performances. He's been raved about for some time now.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Correct, we were linked with him before the WC.
I wouldn't call that a clanger, it was a wonderfully disguised shot by Ronaldo. But he'll be kicking himself that he didn't get a firmer hand on it.

 

[MancFanFromManc]

Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>
Correct, we were linked with him before the WC.
I wouldn't call that a clanger, it was a wonderfully disguised shot by Ronaldo. But he'll be kicking himself that he didn't get a firmer hand on it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Bit depressing watching the Turks create chance after (half) chance against 11 Brazilians where we couldnt create any v 10

 

[Neil Thomson]

Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
<strong>

Bit depressing watching the Turks create chance after (half) chance against 11 Brazilians where we couldnt create any v 10

</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah. Turkey would have beaten us too. Mind you, did the turks have a defence?

 

[skivandam]

Currently, the best keeper in the world at this present time is Rustu from Turkey. May be hard to buy him because his value maybe 10mill plus after his performances.

 

[Cigar]

Barthez is a world class keeper, I really dont see the need to replace him, especially when new players are needed in other areas!

Rustu would be a great sigining, but we don't need him - p.s. anyone that paid attention to the world cup, will realise that although, france's tournament was short, barthez was arguably their best player!

 

[Dans]

Kahn, despite not being human, is definitely the best keeper in the world. Rustu is a very good keeper but not the best.

 

[Raoul]

Rustu saved Turkey's honour today. The score could've been 4-0 to Brazil. Some of his saves were just sick.

 

[giggzy]

rustu's the best IMO

 

[Amir]

Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>rustu's the best IMO</strong><hr></blockquote>

Best what? Keeper in the world? keeper in the tournament?

 

[PhillipVIII]

Rustu is the best keeper in the tournament, Kahn extremely close in second place.

isn't Rustu somewhat of a free agent?

 

[Raoul]

Originally posted by PhillipVIII:
<strong>Rustu is the best keeper in the tournament, Kahn extremely close in second place.

isn't Rustu somewhat of a free agent?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Kahn = 5 clean sheets
Recber = 3 clean sheets

But then again, Kahn hasn't faced Brazil twice.

They're both world class, and obviously better than anyone we have. As for Barthez, one would have to seriously question whether he still has the passion and hunger to compete at this point of his career, having won every major trophy there is to win. I seriously doubt that his presence will inspire confidence for our squad in the future, after two very average years.

 

[giggzy]

Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>

Best what? Keeper in the world? keeper in the tournament?</strong><hr></blockquote>

probably the best keeper in the world...and has just shaded Kahn as the best GK in the tounament.

 

[PhillipVIII]

wonder if someone would pay around 6 mil for Barthez...

 

[Dans]

Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>But then again, Kahn hasn't faced Brazil twice.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ahhh, but Rustu didn't face the mighty full of fight Oirish now did he?

 

[Raoul]

You're asking for it Dans.

 

[Dans]

Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>You're asking for it Dans. </strong><hr></blockquote>

To be sure I am so I am.

 

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>

Kahn = 5 clean sheets
Recber = 3 clean sheets

But then again, Kahn hasn't faced Brazil twice.

They're both world class, and obviously better than anyone we have. As for Barthez, one would have to seriously question whether he still has the passion and hunger to compete at this point of his career, having won every major trophy there is to win. I seriously doubt that his presence will inspire confidence for our squad in the future, after two very average years.</strong><hr></blockquote>

His first year wasn't average at all, he had the best defence of the premiership in 2000-2001. I'm not the only one to think that, remember that he was voted best United player of the year by Redcafe's members, and by some papers .You have a short memory, and you used to praise him at the time.

And Fab has an absolute passion for the game, it's his trademark. He has said that the only thing that can console him of losing the WC is to win games again.