Redcafe Cricket Draft- MightBeRight vs Desert Eagle

Who will win based on players in their prime, team tactics and balance?


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KM

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Here you go, Interval will add in the second post
 
Please vote on basis of performances post 1990 only
Mightberight
Marcus Trescothick
Gautam Gambhir
Jacques Kallis
Virat Kohli
AB De Villiers
Ajay Jadeja
Andrew Flintoff
Shakib Al-Hasan
Mitchell Johnson
Stuart Broad
Andre Nel

12th man: Shaun Tait

Explanations
mightberight said:
Marcus Trescothick
Gautam Gambhir
Jacques Kallis
Virat Kohli
AB De Villiers
Ajay Jadeja
Andrew Flintoff
Shakib Al-Hasan
Mitchell Johnson
Stuart Broad
Andre Nel

In my opinion, I have one of the deepest batting line-ups in the draft. Trescothick and Gambhir both rattle along at an 85 S/R - with 23 centuries between them - but should they fail, I've got Kallis, AB De Villiers and Virat Kohli to step in. They have runs written all over them. The latter two will especially throw caution to the wind, knowing that Jadeja, the big-hitting Flintoff (an avg of 32 with 89/SR) and Al-Hasan will be in line to clear up the innings. Johnson (avg 17, S/R of 96 - the perfect tailender) and Broad are no slouches with the bat either, should a bowling attack be in for some luck.

Due to my batting depth, I've picked 6 bowlers - but I don't think I've shirked on quality. This is an ODI draft and if we're basing it on that format, Flintoff and Johnson are quite simply two of the most effective ODI bowlers of the 2000s. Flintoff has an average of 24 and a quite ridiculous Econ of 4.38 - he has to be talked about in the premier tier of ODI bowlers. Mitchell Johnson is a small step behind with an average of 25.5 and an Econ of 4.85. They are supplemented by Jacques Kallis, who needs no introductions, Stuart Broad who clocks an average of 27.5, and Saffers hitman Andre Nel who also has similar stats. Al-Hasan offers a change of pace with his tricky spin and, without the weight of Bangladesh on his shoulders but with proper pace bowlers to soften batsmen up, you can only expect his bowling to be even more effective. The man has an average of 28.8 and an Econ rate of 4.3, and the stats will only get better.

Desert Eagle has some very good players, but I don't think he's quite matched the balance that I have. The batting lacks a punch and Sehwag, while venomous, fails to have superstar consistency in ODI formats. Warne is of course a premier spinner, but he doesn't have a lot of supplement; don't be fooled by Steyn, he is a better test player than he is ODI - his stats hugely pale in comparison to Johnson and Flintoff. Gillespie is no better than my top bowling options and Duminy, Collingwood, Ganguly and Astle will get tonked all over the place by my batsmen.

v/s

Desert Eagle
Virender Sehwag
Saurav Ganguly
Robin Smith
Neil Fairbrother
Paul collingwood
JP Duminy
Mark Boucher
Agit Agarkar
Shane Warne
Jason Gillespie
Dale Steyn

12th man: Nathan Astle

Explanations
Desert Eagle's desert eagles


Virender Sehwag
Saurav Ganguly
Robin Smith
Neil Fairbrother
Paul collingwood
JP Duminy
Mark Boucher
Agit Agarkar
Shane Warne
Jason Gillespie
Dale Steyn

12th man: Nathan Astle

My openeers are deadly if they get set. Sehwag has a ridiculous strike rate to go along with 15 centuries in all sorts of conditions while Ganguly reached 1000 ODI runs in a calender year 4 times! Not to mention they can chip in with a few overs ( both have loads of odi wickets) and are excelllent fielders.

My middle order consists of 3 english men. Smith and Fairbrother both average almost 40 and especially loved playing against quicks as demonstrated by their numbers against the great west indian side of the late eighties/early nineties. Then comes Collingwood, Mr.dependable. Average of 35 with over 30 knocks of 50 plus runs. A calm customer and true professional who adds solidity to my middle order and will be able to chip in with quite a few economical overs.

Then I have two South Africans who are excellent fielders, match winners and love batting with the tail. Duminy with his fielding and part time spin is tailor made for the short version of the game while Boucher has seen it and done it everywhere.
 
Voted MBR, I think his batting line up is better and his bowling options aren't bad either.
 
MBR's middle order is just a cut above DE's. I'm also not sure about the make up of his 5th bowler as well and that also has an impact.
 
Tough one. Desert Eagle's bowling attack stands out with two match winners in Warne and Steyn. There's no-one in the MBR's bowling who can run through the team alone. However MBR's batting is a class apart from DE's batting.

Basically it's between MBR's batting and DE's bowling. Need some time to think over it.
 
Pretty sure all my quicks have a better average than Steyn, and Gillespie doesnt have a better one than eithet Flintoff or Johnson. Warnes a problem but wont be able to carry it home, imo.
 
If you think anyone out of Nel, Flintoff, Broad (lol), or Johnson (lol lol) is a better bowler than Steyn you must be stoned.
 
I like DE's bowling, but his batting is too suspect, imo.
 
This is an ODI format, is it not? This is the problem - people base on tests and use that as marker. Flintoff and Johnson are better ODI bowlers than they were in tests. And in the case of Johnson, he clearly gets a lot of shit because he's never really fulfilled his test potential and it came after the Australian old guard retired.

Flintoff: 24.36 average, Econ rate 4.36, best figures 5/19, strike rate 33.2

Johnson: 25.52 average, Econ rate 4.85, best figures 6/31, strike rate 31.5

Steyn: 28.2 average, Econ rate 5.03, best figures 5/50, strike rate 33.5

I don't like using stats too much, but it's clear that Flintoff and Johnson are both at Steyn's level and then some more. Steyn also has a horrendous average against England - 50.

Nel and Broad enjoy similar stats to Steyn.

But in any case that's a great point well made DE, I especially like your use of "lol." Oh, and the stoner wisecrack. Brilliant.
 
Steyn's a better bowler than what you have mbr but overall your team is superior, no doubt.
 
Voted for MBR, DE's middle order is quite shit. MBR's batting lineup is ridiculously deep.
 
MBR's batting lineup is ridiculously deep. Plus he chose Shakib!

I vote for him