Reality-Monopoly Draft - R1: Tuppet vs Pat_Mustard

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

vs

....................................... TEAM TUPPET .................................................................................. TEAM PAT MUSTARD ...................................


Team Tuppet:

Tactics:

We line up in a pretty straight forward 4-3-3.

Starting with attack as it is the best feature of our team, we sport the best left winger, the best right winger and the best header of the ball (and one of the best overall striker in this pool) in all of the draft. We would strive to play direct attacking (& counterattacking) football, moving the ball quickly to one of the two stars on the wing, and giving them as much as possible time on the ball. While our fantastic midfield mean we are going to have our fair share of ball, keeping the ball as a defensive tactic is not what we are looking to do.

Dzajic and Matthews are superlative creators. Both of them have twisted and turned some of the best defenders in the history of game, Nilton Santos, Vogts, Camacho, Hanappi, Alf Sherwood and many more. Sandor Kocsis is the greatest header of the ball that this game has seen, he would play his usual center forward role. Dzajic would play as left wide forward, both providing and cutting in to score. He has an almost 1 in 2 record anyway, but its the big games where he shines, with him being top scorer in 1968 Euro and second top scorer in 1976 Euro. Stan Matthews would also cut in from time to time utilizing his brilliant dribbling to full effect. His main remit though is utilizing his classic wing play to create chances for Kocsis. Matthews played as outside right in W-M, and the right winger feeding near post crosses to the number 9 is the key attacking move in this formation. Matthews was probably the best ever at both setting up and delivering the final ball in this key connection.

I know Pat has a very good defense, but no defense can live with my front 3 all game. With service of Dzajic/Matthews and heading of Kocsis, we are bound to score goals. The only question is whether my players would see enough ball, and that leads me to my midfield. A combination of 3 highly intelligent and hard working midfielders, we are set up to win the ball through middle as much and as early as possible. Neeskens & Van Hanegem are both fantastic passer and quite creative. Van Hanagem in particular is the main man feeding the ball to my front 3 as the primary playmaker of my team, while Neeskens would do what he always did, covering every blade of grass on the pitch and arriving late in the box to cause chaos in a true attacking box to box fashion. Deschamps is a perfect foil for both of them, as a hard working, intelligent and technically proficient defensive midfielder behind them. I have confidence that this midfield would win the ball and feed our forwards enough time to make a difference. There are also a decent amount of goals from our midfield, esp Van Hanegem who here is playing more in his Feyenrood role than Dutch team role, where he had to accept a secondary role behind Cruyff. He would be given more freedom to run the game here.

Our defensive line up is slightly pushed high. We sport a classic Stopper/ball playing defender duo in Desailly-Chivadze. We all know Desailly, a monster of a defender, he would be the more aggressive CB moving forward to deal with danger and winning aerial duels. While Chivadze with his anticipation, technique and positioning would sweep up danger behind him. Known as Georgian Backenbauer, Chivazde was fantastic on the ball, providing playmaking capabilities from defensive line, which is important to provide an outball for a quick counter. On right we have Vogts - great full back and a defensive monster, he would playing in more defensive role. He would need to be on top of his game as he is facing Gento-Brehme, but with Neeskens helping him out to make sure he doesn't get double teamed, I think he would cope. On left side we have Ziege, an important cog in the Euro 1996 winning German machinery. He was not the greatest defender, but was rapid, hard working and a great crosser. His attacking contribution would help provide more chances for my team, esp as Dzajic looks to cut inside. His relative weakness in defending are well covered by a hard working and defensively sound midfield in front of him, 3 brilliant defenders alongside him and arguably the best goalkeeper in the draft behind him

Gordon banks provide solidity in defense taking normal (not sweeper) goal keeper role. Selected as the second greatest goalkeeper of 20th century behind only great Lev Yashin by IFFHS, his accolades speak for themselves - selected in PFA team of century & FIFA goalkeeper of the year 6 consecutive times from 65 to 71. Gordon banks is a legend of the game.

Team Pat_Mustard

Formation: 4-2-3-1

We'll play a fairly direct, high-tempo brand of football in possession here, with the great Raymond Kopa pulling the strings, bags of flair, strength and pace on the wings, and a legendary centre forward in Silvio Piola leading the line.

Defence:

It's pick your poison really against an attacking line like Tuppet's, but we're opting for a moderately high line, to keep goal poacher supreme Kocsis that bit further from the penalty area. Our back line, the centre backs in particular, have bags of recovery pace on the occasions when the opposition wingers inevitably beat their markers, and the high-ish line also limits the ground that Pirri and Netto need to cover to support the defence. Viv Anderson, my legacy player, inevitably jumps out as the weak link, and it's pointless to deny that Djazic will pose him all sorts of problems, but he's a robust, athletic and highly-regarded defender. The dear-departed Peter Storey, resident old Arsenal fan, had this to say about him:

No doubt about it. Ferdinand was better than Moore IMO, Cole and Wilson is a draw and Viv Anderson as best right back is beyond arguing (but might be evidence for the Campbell view).

Look, if you have midget fullbacks it will be targeted. Viv Anderson is the best ever right fullback in the top division, he could attack like a winger, tackle like a rightback and defend like a CB.

All day long. Sagna is easily the best RB to play for Arsenal in the last 50 years except, of course, for the great Viv Anderson (best RB I've seen in the top flight by a country mile).

With his former teammate Paul McGrath providing cover at RCB, and Pirri at RCM, he's got heavyweight support too.

Midfield and Attack:

Soviet great Igor Netto and box to box powerhouse Pirri (a potent goal threat from midfield on top of the other qualities he brings to the table), provide the platform for the great Raymond Kopa to pull the strings as playmaker. Flanking Kopa are the Spanish flying machine Gento and Ruud Gullit. Gullit vs Ziege or Shaw should be a favourable indvidual atch up for him, and Gullit has been instructed to unleash his considerable aerial thret by attacking the penalty area when Gento is shaping up to cross. Silvio Piola,a prototypical centre forward and still the all-time top scorer in Serie A history, leads the line and should should be in his element with this calibre of service.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

@Tuppet @Pat_Mustard All the best!

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Astounding quality of teams here. Brilliant effort from both managers.

 

[Pat_Mustard]

Astounding quality of teams here. Brilliant effort from both managers.

Cheers Edgar

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Been staring at the team sheets for some time now, but just can't make up my mind.

van Hanegem - Neeskens is after my own heart, but then the flexibility and interplay between Kopa/Gullit is equally as exciting.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Astounding quality of teams here. Brilliant effort from both managers.

A back line of Brehme, Tresor, McGrath, Anderson ....

 

[Tuppet]

Best of luck @Pat_Mustard damn that's a great team you got. And to think you have to bench Carlos Alberto. Although I would have preferred your FBs the other way round. Someone like Brehme behind Gullit would have been better, giving him freedom to run rampant and someone more conservative behind Gento. That's extremely nit picky though.

 

[Ecstatic]

2 great teams.

Best of luck @Pat_Mustard damn that's a great team you got. And to think you have to bench Carlos Alberto. Although I would have preferred your FBs the other way round. Someone like Brehme behind Gullit would have been better, giving him freedom to run rampant and someone more conservative behind Gento. That's extremely nit picky though.

Do you mean Viv Anderson was also good on the left?

 

[Tuppet]

2 great teams.
Do you mean Viv Anderson was also good on the left?

Ah no, Just that someone more conservative would be better behind Gento. As I said its no big deal but there are not too many faults with Pat's team to point out.

 

[Ecstatic]

Ah no, Just that someone more conservative would be better behind Gento. As I said its no big deal but there are not too many faults with Pat's team to point out.

Indeed, Gullit will tend to cut inside so a quality player like Brehme would have been perfect.
True that Gento is a pure winger who doesn't need an offensive RB.

 

[Ecstatic]

I don't know if we can trust somebody who consider Sagna as a great RB

 

[harms]

we sport the best left winger, the best right winger and the best header of the ball

meh

@Tuppet 's team looks scary. When you compare the teams there isn't much between them, but Tuppet's is easier on the eye. Also I would prefer Kopa outwide - he had a proven wing partnership with Gento at Real (and both played as OL/OR in the 1963 all-star game). More of an aesthetic preference, really, considering that they're going to interchange with Gullit depending on the situation, I'm sure.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Best of luck @Pat_Mustard damn that's a great team you got. And to think you have to bench Carlos Alberto. Although I would have preferred your FBs the other way round. Someone like Brehme behind Gullit would have been better, giving him freedom to run rampant and someone more conservative behind Gento. That's extremely nit picky though.

I can see Brehme on the right (true two footed player?) but couldn't see Viv as a LB.

Both good teams btw.

 

[Tuppet]

Sir Stanley Matthews

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He told me that he used to play for just 20 pounds a week. Today he would be worth all the money in the Bank of England. - Gianfranco Zola

The man who taught us the way football should be played - Pele

He was my first hero and still would be my hero if he was here today. It was an absolute pleasure to stand and watch him play. - Sir Bobby Charlton

I grew up in an era when he was a god to those of us who aspired to play the game. He was a true gentleman and we shall never see his like again. - Brian Clough

In his moments he would tear a man apart, tear a team apart. - Sir Matt Busby

Stanley Matthews is a perfectionist, and when he gets the ball he refuses to pass it just for the sake of passing it. He wants his colleagues to move into position, to get away from opponents into the right position for the pass that will bring a goal. If no one moves, Stan will hold the ball until everyone is in position. And no one can hold a ball like Stan. He has uncanny control, and looks quite happy when three or four men are around him. - Tommy Lowtown

Finney was the more consistent all-rounder, but no one mesmerised defences like Matthews on his day - Maurice Edelstone and Terence Delaney

The first ballon d'or winner was one of the finest dribbler of all time, dubbed as the Wizard and the Magician, he is considered the greatest pure right winger along with Garrincha. Most fans have seen footage of him when he was on the very tail end of his career. At or near the physical peak of his career, Sir Stan was unleashed lightning on the pitch. Even in his Fourties he was turning top-flight calibre defenders inside-out on a weekly basis for both club & country.

Place in history​

One of the criticism people about Sir Stan is his lack of goals, that is because he played as a right-winger in the Chapman style W-M. He was supposed to stay out wide, drop back, make himself available, roast his marker, and get in pin-point crosses, all of which he was VERY good at. There were plenty of players who could bang in 20+ goals a season back then, but VERY few could set people up like Sir Stan. He was very much a playmaker in the team playing as outside right in W-M, and the right winger feeding near post crosses to the number 9 is the key attacking move in this formation. Matthews was probably the best ever at both setting up and delivering the final ball in this key connection.

Another complaint is his lack of trophies and the biggest reason was the English league system of that time. He played for a local club in the era before Johnny Haynes & Jimmy Hill broke the max wage. Why go to a big club like Arsenal or Chelsea, live away from what you were used to and be under all that pressure for the purposes of glory-hunting when you got paid exactly the same amount for staying right where you wanted to ? The likes of Coke & Nike also weren't handing out seven figure endorsement deals to plug their cola or trainers if you happened to play for a big club. Let's face it: a big reason why top players make a beeline for big clubs is in order to "ring the register" in the modern era. No such avenues or temptations existed for top players in Sir Stan's day & playing for England, which was the highest level of play, Sir Stan was dynamite on the pitch.

More than anything else though, he was an entertainer of the highest quality. Fo 20 or so years he was the biggest draw in English football, and its said that he used to draw 10,000 extra fans when playing on away ground, while filling his own ground with 22K faithfuls. In an era without TV or commercials income, he was an insanely important asset for his team.

Ballon D'or​

His Ballon D'or is considered honorary by some fans, in that its given to him for some sort of lifetime achievement award. But thats quite far from the truth. The Ballon D'or was awarded like always by a panel of voters with Sir Stanley receiving 47 points over Di Stefano receiving 44, Kopa 33 and Puskas 32 points. The voting might be considered contentious like it was in many other years, but it wasn't an honorary award.

As for why would he receive it, in that year - He led Blackpool to second place behind only to Sir Busby's first great United team. England also played some blinders in that time as well: Hammering Spain @ Wembley 4-1 in Nov. of '55 (technically before '56, but I'm sure that it was still fresh in the voters' minds). In May of '56 England also hammered a Brazil XI 4-2 that had many of the future Sweden '58 WC-winners in the line-up while Sir Stan gave Nilton Santos, then considered one of the TOP left-backs around, a torrid time all throughout the match. Later in the same month, England also defeated W. Germany, who were the defending WC-champions, 3-1 on Germany's home turf in Berlin. So, while Di Stefano almost certainly had the better club season, Sir Stan almost definitely had the better year at international level. And in this era, Internationals (even friendly) were the highest level of football.

Videos​

Here's some footage of Sir Stan when he was closer to his physical peak. Remember that the most of the clips will be on around 30 fps speed film, so you'll have to correct for the "live look" in your head as they seem slower than the real action.

Here's Sir Stan in action against Brazil in '56. Watch him getting past Santos practically at will and the quality of his passes, especially his crossing into the box:


This is Sir Stan in action against Spurs in the 6th Rd. of the FA Cup back in March of '48:


Here's Him & Sir Tommy Finney driving a ten man England forward to defeat a Wales XI 1-0 in Nov. of the same year. Pay particular attention to the clips where Sir Stan completely dismantles Wales L-B Alf Sherwood, who was one of the best around:


The redemption for Matthews after on the losing side of 2 cup finals, he was finally the hero at the age of 38, in 1953 cup final against Bolton:


Against Rest of the world XI, squaring against Hanappi who was one of the best around at that time -


Here's another one -


Here is a great profile on Sir Stan with the bits from the likes of Sir Matt Busby, Lofthouse, Mortensen etc - http://spartacus-educational.com/BLACKPmatthews.htm

This is one of my favorite "legends" videos from BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/football_legends/11900.shtml

 

[Joga Bonito]

Indeed, Gullit will tend to cut inside so a quality player like Brehme would have been perfect.
True that Gento is a pure winger who doesn't need an offensive RB.

meh

@Tuppet 's team looks scary. When you compare the teams there isn't much between them, but Tuppet's is easier on the eye. Also I would prefer Kopa outwide - he had a proven wing partnership with Gento at Real (and both played as OL/OR in the 1963 all-star game). More of an aesthetic preference, really, considering that they're going to interchange with Gullit depending on the situation, I'm sure.

Usually I'd agree with this but I'd say Gullit was excellent on the wings myself, more so than Kopa imo. Naturally he had a tendency to roam about, but he also possessed the trickery and the sheer pace to get on the outside of the full back, in addition to possessing a decent cross on him. He had a brilliant game against Inter in 89 or 90 (forgot which year) playing a disciplined role on the right in Sacchi's 4-4-2 and giving none other than Brehme all sorts of problems. Really something else, his versatility and tactical malleability. Not just when he played out wide but when he was central too, he certainly loved dropping onto the flanks and usually tended to give full backs a torrid time

I understand Pat's rationale here myself, I'd rather have Gullit there to take advantage of a relatively attacking full back as opposed to Kopa.

 

[harms]

I understand Pat's rationale here myself, I'd rather have Gullit there to take advantage of a relatively attacking full back as opposed to Kopa.

Like I said, aesthetics. Somehow the interchange with Kopa starting on the right and Gullit centrally, the move itself, excites me more than them starting in reverse. While in real life Gullit will spend more time on the right regardless of the formation. It's a strange idea that I find hard to verbalize.

 

[Joga Bonito]

Like I said, aesthetics. Somehow the interchange with Kopa starting on the right and Gullit centrally, the move itself, excites me more than them starting in reverse. While in real life Gullit will spend more time on the right regardless of the formation. It's a strange idea that I find hard to verbalize.

Ah fair enough.

 

[Ecstatic]

Usually I'd agree with this but I'd say Gullit was excellent on the wings myself, more so than Kopa imo. Naturally he had a tendency to roam about, but he also possessed the trickery and the sheer pace to get on the outside of the full back, in addition to possessing a decent cross on him. He had a brilliant game against Inter in 89 or 90 (forgot which year) playing a disciplined role on the right in Sacchi's 4-4-2 and giving none other than Brehme all sorts of problems. Really something else, his versatility and tactical malleability. Not just when he played out wide but when he was central too, he certainly loved dropping onto the flanks and usually tended to give full backs a torrid time

I understand Pat's rationale here myself, I'd rather have Gullit there to take advantage of a relatively attacking full back as opposed to Kopa.

Gullit excellent on the wings but certainly better as a (powerful) support striker IMO

I prefer him close to the penalty area. He can break the defensive lines and is also excellent on the air.

 

[Enigma_87]

One of the best teams after the drafting. Find it hard to break them apart really.

It would be down to preference for the voters I think.

I like Tuppet's attacking set up a tad more and Kocsis is better than Piola, but then again Pat's defence as a unit and individually is the better one.

Have to say @Pat_Mustard that left flank is really fantastic - Brehme/Gento supported by Netto.

 

[Pat_Mustard]

Usually I'd agree with this but I'd say Gullit was excellent on the wings myself, more so than Kopa imo. Naturally he had a tendency to roam about, but he also possessed the trickery and the sheer pace to get on the outside of the full back, in addition to possessing a decent cross on him. He had a brilliant game against Inter in 89 or 90 (forgot which year) playing a disciplined role on the right in Sacchi's 4-4-2 and giving none other than Brehme all sorts of problems. Really something else, his versatility and tactical malleability. Not just when he played out wide but when he was central too, he certainly loved dropping onto the flanks and usually tended to give full backs a torrid time

I understand Pat's rationale here myself, I'd rather have Gullit there to take advantage of a relatively attacking full back as opposed to Kopa.

Cheers Joga. Some of my earliest memories of Gullit are as a right winger, so I'm abit biased towards that incarnation of him. A few GIFs of him vs Scotland as a right winger:

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and two more bonus GIFS, the second with him playing on the left wing:

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No issues with people preferring him as a second striker, but his brilliance as a winger shouldn't be underrated, and he should enjoy some success vs Ziege here.

 

[Gio]

Usually I'd agree with this but I'd say Gullit was excellent on the wings myself, more so than Kopa imo. Naturally he had a tendency to roam about, but he also possessed the trickery and the sheer pace to get on the outside of the full back, in addition to possessing a decent cross on him. He had a brilliant game against Inter in 89 or 90 (forgot which year) playing a disciplined role on the right in Sacchi's 4-4-2 and giving none other than Brehme all sorts of problems. Really something else, his versatility and tactical malleability. Not just when he played out wide but when he was central too, he certainly loved dropping onto the flanks and usually tended to give full backs a torrid time

I understand Pat's rationale here myself, I'd rather have Gullit there to take advantage of a relatively attacking full back as opposed to Kopa.

This.

 

[Moby]

Went for Pat, both teams look brilliant but I find it tough to look past the Gento - Kopa - Gullit triumvirate. Tuppet has the edge in central midfield but Pat's are no slouch either and would be able to match the opposition toe to toe, and always Gullit's addition to midfield in terms of workrate and transition cannot be ignored.

 

[Ecstatic]

I will explain my vote later.

Great posts about Matthews and Gullit.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Very harsh match to have in R1.

I think Pat may have lost some votes due to Piola not being that famous. I personally don't see much difference between Kocsis and Piola. I'd rather them almost equal. Well rounded, technically good players with good vision, workrate and goalscoring ability. Piola's ability to operate in wider areas may give him a slight edge here too.

 

[Tuppet]

Very harsh match to have in R1.

I think Pat may have lost some votes due to Piola not being that famous. I personally don't see much difference between Kocsis and Piola. I'd rather them almost equal. Well rounded, technically good players with good vision, workrate and goalscoring ability. Piola's ability to operate in wider areas may give him a slight edge here too.

Why would his ability to operate in wide areas would be any kind of edge over Kocsis, when I have proper wingers and don't need Kocsis to roam in wide areas at all ?

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Why would his ability to operate in wide areas would be any kind of edge over Kocsis, when I have proper wingers and don't need Kocsis to roam in wide areas at all ?

Because of Kopa and Gullit. Piola's versatility here means they can interchange at will and will be more difficult to get a grip on. Advantage over a more central striker I meant.

 

[Tuppet]

Because of Kopa and Gullit. Piola's versatility here means they can interchange at will and will be more difficult to get a grip on. Advantage over a more central striker I meant.

Its not an objective advantage over any setup though. I wouldn't want Piola in my team for example, cause I think Kocsis heading ability with the wide service he would receive from Matthews/Dzajic is an advantage over a more roaming striker. I would want my striker to act as a reference point for balls from Matthews/Dzajic/Ziege and not drift to wide areas. All I am saying is just because a striker can roam does not objectively give him an edge, it depends on the system.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Very harsh match to have in R1.

I think Pat may have lost some votes due to Piola not being that famous. I personally don't see much difference between Kocsis and Piola. I'd rather them almost equal. Well rounded, technically good players with good vision, workrate and goalscoring ability. Piola's ability to operate in wider areas may give him a slight edge here too.

Yip. I know the name but googled him.

Some "selling" may help.

 

[harms]

I think we've all been ignoring the crucial point - with that amount of space between Tresor and McGrath Kocsis is going to have a field day. I think @Pat_Mustard originally built a 5-man defence, with Brehme and Carlos Alberto on the sides, but then changed a sweeper to another attacker without changing LCB/RCB positions. Still

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Its not an objective advantage over any setup though. I wouldn't want Piola in my team for example, cause I think Kocsis heading ability with the wide service he would receive from Matthews/Dzajic is an advantage over a more roaming striker. I would want my striker to act as a reference point for balls from Matthews/Dzajic/Ziege and not drift to wide areas. All I am saying is just because a striker can roam does not objectively give him an edge, it depends on the system.

Agreed. We are thinking on same lines. I think someone mentioned Kocsis is better than Piola before and was replaying with that in mind. That Piola offers more than Kocsis in Pat's team.

I should have fixed the draw and kept you both separate Outstanding builds!

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

I think we've all been ignoring the crucial point - with that amount of space between Tresor and McGrath Kocsis is going to have a field day. I think @Pat_Mustard originally built a 5-man defence, with Brehme and Carlos Alberto on the sides, but then changed a sweeper to another attacker without changing LCB/RCB positions. Still

In what way?

 

[Gio]

Brutal match-up - that's two of the strongest teams I've seen. Hard to contest the clarity of a Dzajic/Matthews/Kocsis attack.

 

[harms]

In what way?

I'm talking about Pat's formation pic - there is a clear gap between Tresor and McGrath that he forgot to fill (probably because he originally planned for a back 5 and had a player there)

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

I'm talking about Pat's formation pic - there is a clear gap between Tresor and McGrath that he forgot to fill (probably because he originally planned for a back 5 and had a player there)

Ah, gotcha.

I thought you were saying he would single-handedly outwit Tresor and Ooh Aah Paul McGrath!

 

[antohan]

I'm talking about Pat's formation pic - there is a clear gap between Tresor and McGrath that he forgot to fill (probably because he originally planned for a back 5 and had a player there)

Pulling his bumcheeks to the sides for KOCsis?

 

[Pat_Mustard]

I think we've all been ignoring the crucial point - with that amount of space between Tresor and McGrath Kocsis is going to have a field day. I think @Pat_Mustard originally built a 5-man defence, with Brehme and Carlos Alberto on the sides, but then changed a sweeper to another attacker without changing LCB/RCB positions. Still

I had originally built a 5 man defence and altered it from there

but evidently didn't tinker with the CB positions enough.

Well done @Tuppet. I wish I'd got involved more but honestly aside from the Ziege/Gullit angle there was feck all negative to say about Tuppet's team. Freeing up van Hanegem so well is particularly praise-worthy. I've meant to do some more in-depth stuff on Pirri for awhile now and this draft should have been a good opportunity but real-life got in the way unfortunately

 

[Ecstatic]

In terms of individual quality, Tupppet Team is clearly better on the whole.

I voted for Pat because I thought Piola would have a stronger support compared to Kocsis.

I would prefer Kocsis partnered with another striker or a # 10.

In other words, I would prefer with a CF more mobile but true that Kocsis-Matthews would be a powerful duo.

 

[Tuppet]

Well done @Tuppet. I wish I'd got involved more but honestly aside from the Ziege/Gullit angle there was feck all negative to say about Tuppet's team. Freeing up van Hanegem so well is particularly praise-worthy. I've meant to do some more in-depth stuff on Pirri for awhile now and this draft should have been a good opportunity but real-life got in the way unfortunately

Thanks Pat !!

 

[Joga Bonito]

In terms of individual quality, Tupppet Team is clearly better on the whole.

I voted for Pat because I thought Piola would have a stronger support compared to Kocsis.

I would prefer Kocsis partnered with another striker or a # 10.

In other words, I would prefer with a CF more mobile but true that Kocsis-Matthews would be a powerful duo.

Whilst it is true that Kocsis frequently played with other inside forwards in a forward 5, I don't quite think it's necessary for him to play with another centre forward to thrive. In fact him thriving with other centrally oriented forwards only serves to highlight his all round game and esp his link up play imo.

That being said he's in no means going to be lacking in support in the final third with Neeskens and Dzajic (who can mix it up) imo.

 

[Ecstatic]

Whilst it is true that Kocsis frequently played with other inside forwards in a forward 5, I don't quite think it's necessary for him to play with another centre forward to thrive. In fact him thriving with other centrally oriented forwards only serves to highlight his all round game and esp his link up play imo.

That being said he's in no means going to be lacking in support in the final third with Neeskens and Dzajic (who can mix it up) imo.

My comments are in a context of a "fantasy draft"

In this context, I thought that Kocsis would more predictable for the opposing defenders, and so less dangerous.

In the penalty area, Kocsis is the threat #1, then you have Dzajic the threat #2.

Matthews is more a dribbler/provider of assists than a scorer. Neeskens & Van Hanegem are B2B

You can see I struggle to find something negative