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Good one lads. Bring on Bayern <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
well gud in't it
pity forlan didn't score
bt well dun blanc !!
bt well dun blanc !!
The main priority would be to qualify
now to guarentee winning the group
now to guarentee winning the group
'Ave it
P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Man Utd 4 4 0 0 14 5 9 12
2 Bayer Leverkusen 4 2 0 2 7 9 -2 6
3 Maccabi Haifa 4 1 0 3 6 9 -3 3
4 Olympiakos 4 1 0 3 8 12 -4 3
1 Man Utd 4 4 0 0 14 5 9 12
2 Bayer Leverkusen 4 2 0 2 7 9 -2 6
3 Maccabi Haifa 4 1 0 3 6 9 -3 3
4 Olympiakos 4 1 0 3 8 12 -4 3
Nice that! We're not far off the 1999 scoreing rate. Was that 17 goals? It broke the record for the time, although there was only 1 group phase then.
Without Ruud too!
The treble is in the air!
setting the pace in Europe, as usual
things are going swimmingly in Europe.come on people...
Olympiakos were a disgrace.. we wouldn't have won with a display like that against Bayern... are you kidding yourself?
The match looked like United VS junios high school reserves.
We only won because they weren't playing.. their goalkeeper was crap.. only the seba goal looked decent.. no one marked blanc for the first (which would never happen anywhere else in the world) and the keeper should have gotten the scholes shot easy.. if he didn't touch it i think it would have gone out..
of coz it's a win and it's 3 points but with a display like this how far do you think we'll go?
O'Shea was at faults for both the goals.. and he's supposed to shine? We'd get caught out 15 more times against the likes of Pippo and Ronaldo..
who are we kidding..
although i do feel we would look better with keane, RVN and rio back in the team.. then i think it will be fair to judge whether we had a good game.
Olympiakos were a disgrace.. we wouldn't have won with a display like that against Bayern... are you kidding yourself?
The match looked like United VS junios high school reserves.
We only won because they weren't playing.. their goalkeeper was crap.. only the seba goal looked decent.. no one marked blanc for the first (which would never happen anywhere else in the world) and the keeper should have gotten the scholes shot easy.. if he didn't touch it i think it would have gone out..
of coz it's a win and it's 3 points but with a display like this how far do you think we'll go?
O'Shea was at faults for both the goals.. and he's supposed to shine? We'd get caught out 15 more times against the likes of Pippo and Ronaldo..
who are we kidding..
although i do feel we would look better with keane, RVN and rio back in the team.. then i think it will be fair to judge whether we had a good game.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Nice that! We're not far off the 1999 scoreing rate. Was that 17 goals? It broke the record for the time, although there was only 1 group phase then.</strong><hr></blockquote> WEASTE were've yer bin mate? Hola
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>come on people...
Olympiakos were a disgrace.. we wouldn't have won with a display like that against Bayern... are you kidding yourself?
The match looked like United VS junios high school reserves.
We only won because they weren't playing.. their goalkeeper was crap.. only the seba goal looked decent.. no one marked blanc for the first (which would never happen anywhere else in the world) and the keeper should have gotten the scholes shot easy.. if he didn't touch it i think it would have gone out..
of coz it's a win and it's 3 points but with a display like this how far do you think we'll go?
O'Shea was at faults for both the goals.. and he's supposed to shine? We'd get caught out 15 more times against the likes of Pippo and Ronaldo..
who are we kidding..
although i do feel we would look better with keane, RVN and rio back in the team.. then i think it will be fair to judge whether we had a good game.</strong><hr></blockquote>
RUnited got a point there, but you got to realised that no game in champ league is easy, that's why its called champ's league (League for the champ) The most imp thing is we are through, and i bet even real madrid would like to be in our position right now. Give some credits when its due, also given our long list of injuries, any team would have struggle.
My try to keep it positive attitude obviously failed.
Originally posted by osterdal:
<strong>My try to keep it positive attitude obviously failed.
hahaha..
it's good to see someone wants to keep things positively.. but football is in my blood now.. every game counts, every performance counts..
it's people like you who will keep my blood pressure down really.. after all it's all 3 points to us!
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>come on people...
Olympiakos were a disgrace.. we wouldn't have won with a display like that against Bayern... are you kidding yourself?
The match looked like United VS junios high school reserves.
We only won because they weren't playing.. their goalkeeper was crap.. only the seba goal looked decent.. no one marked blanc for the first (which would never happen anywhere else in the world) and the keeper should have gotten the scholes shot easy.. if he didn't touch it i think it would have gone out..
of coz it's a win and it's 3 points but with a display like this how far do you think we'll go?
O'Shea was at faults for both the goals.. and he's supposed to shine? We'd get caught out 15 more times against the likes of Pippo and Ronaldo..
who are we kidding..
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JOS was at fault for the 1st goal but if he'd takled he would have given away a peno and been sent off. Blanc was at fault for the 2nd goal, if your going to let people shoot then they are going to score some times! We got the 3 points which was all that mattered and we have the easiest group so we'll be seeded in the next phase and will only get possibly 1 good team. I'd like to see us in a group of death were we have to play well (eg BM/BARCELONA in 99) because the more mediocre teams we play the worse it will be for us when we do come up against the bigger/better teams.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Without Ruud too!
who he?
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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I disagree. And Rio and Blanc have both been responsible for conceding goals this season. JOS has performed no worse than either of them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well.. i didn't say Rio and Blanc were up to the task of playing 60 games a year did I?
Our conversation was based on O'Shea, so i kept it there.. if you wanna here it, I don't think all 3 of them can play 60 games a year.. :
1. Rio, although world class by people's standards, is only 23. He also lacks experience and will probably spend this year with United learning from the mistakes he will make in big games in Europe. It will be costly, but will be good for us next year. So he's not a NOW player, but as with O'Shea, he's a FUTURE player.
2. Blanc, he is too old to play 40 games, let alone 60. He said in the beginning of the season also that he didn't want to play 2 times a week. I feel the only reason he is is because we haven't had one single weekend without injuries.. he will be tired out and should be rested a lot during new year. His experience will be valuable comes March and April.
There.. you have it... I didn't say O'Shea was worse than the other two, i said he's not ready to get 60 games..
I don't think he should replace Blanc permanently, atleast not this season. All 3 of them will compliment each other throughout the season, and in a month's time i'm also hoping Brown will be thrown into the equation somewhat.
Does it really matter how we played against Olympiakos? Yes, they were terrible, I totally agree with you, RUnited, in that respect (your critique was spot on!), but this is only the 1st phase. Surely, the only thing that matters at this early stage is that we do enough to qualify for the next round, which we have done.
In fact, if we were playing really well this early, I would be worried about peaking too soon! We need to pace ourselves and improve our performance gradually. In Cup competitions, peaking at the right time is the most essential factor and I will only start becoming concerned if our performance hasn't improved come the quarter-finals. At present, I am just happy that we have qualified for the next round.
In fact, if we were playing really well this early, I would be worried about peaking too soon! We need to pace ourselves and improve our performance gradually. In Cup competitions, peaking at the right time is the most essential factor and I will only start becoming concerned if our performance hasn't improved come the quarter-finals. At present, I am just happy that we have qualified for the next round.
RAtwat seems to follow united's games in much detail for somebody who isnt a United fan <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
Originally posted by Nh1878:
<strong>Does it really matter how we played against Olympiakos? Yes, they were terrible, I totally agree with you, RUnited, in that respect (your critique was spot on!), but this is only the 1st phase. Surely, the only thing that matters at this early stage is that we do enough to qualify for the next round, which we have done.
In fact, if we were playing really well this early, I would be worried about peaking too soon! We need to pace ourselves and improve our performance gradually. In Cup competitions, peaking at the right time is the most essential factor and I will only start becoming concerned if our performance hasn't improved come the quarter-finals. At present, I am just happy that we have qualified for the next round.
good point.. i agree with you.. it's just not a secure feeling though.. we were like this last season also and even when we got in going in the second half of the season, it wasn't enough anymore.. we started the run too late.. you know what i mean?
i'd like to see some solid performance once in a while, if not all season long.. i haven't seen any solid performance in the league this season after 10 games and i'm beginning to get itchy with the way things are going.. we haven't scored a single league goal in the first half..
are we looking to become the first team to win the league w/o scoring a single goal in the first halves or something? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Was that 17 goals? It broke the record for the time, although there was only 1 group phase then.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Talking of records... if we remain at 100% in the first stage, we'll be the first team to do so for six years
Originally posted by blythy:
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Talking of records... if we remain at 100% in the first stage, we'll be the first team to do so for six years
it'll be quite impressive, but since we have already qualified don't be surprise that we will be filling in the reserves to play the remaining two games.. i think we'll get another win and a draw from the last two games.
Originally posted by RUnited:
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oh? there have been teams that have done it before? sorry for not checking my record books before saying that.
No, but we scored a goal in the first half in those three matches.
Originally posted by osterdal:
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No, but we scored a goal in the first half in those three matches.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Originally posted by RUnited:
good point.. i agree with you.. it's just not a secure feeling though.. we were like this last season also and even when we got in going in the second half of the season, it wasn't enough anymore.. we started the run too late.. you know what i mean?
i'd like to see some solid performance once in a while, if not all season long.. i haven't seen any solid performance in the league this season after 10 games and i'm beginning to get itchy with the way things are going.. we haven't scored a single league goal in the first half..
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I totally understand what you mean, especially about that insecure feeling. But don't forget the spine of our team is injured at the moment, we have had many off-field problems, and we are a couple of signings short, so it's hardly surprising that our form is indifferent. In these circumstances, we just need to survive - scrape the results, get the points and stay within sight of the leaders. So far we are doing that and so long as we continue to do so, and, in the meanwhile, strive to rectify our problems, ie get our key players fit, engage in no more off-field distractions and buy a couple of players when the transfer window opens, then we still have a chance.
I know it's depressing to think of United in this way, but things can't always be perfect, and it's the way we handle our problems that really matters. The lads will come through it, I am sure!
Originally posted by Nh1878:
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I totally understand what you mean, especially about that insecure feeling. But don't forget the spine of our team is injured at the moment, we have had many off-field problems, and we are a couple of signings short, so it's hardly surprising that our form is indifferent. In these circumstances, we just need to survive - scrape the results, get the points and stay within sight of the leaders. So far we are doing that and so long as we continue to do so, and, in the meanwhile, strive to rectify our problems, ie get our key players fit, engage in no more off-field distractions and buy a couple of players when the transfer window opens, then we still have a chance.
I know it's depressing to think of United in this way, but things can't always be perfect, and it's the way we handle our problems that really matters. The lads will come through it, I am sure!
nice positive thinking.
i'll be more than happy if we turn it around.
we will just have to wait and see whether after we've had all the strengths in the players back we will continue to suck using 4-4-1-1.
that will be the main thing i'll be looking at over the next few months before we make a new signing.