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Manchester United 1:2 Swansea City

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Sat, 16 August 2014

Randall Flagg

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Vent frustrations here

Its feels like shit. I dont want to watch any more football this weekend
 
Silly mistakes cost you at the back, and Fellaini should have came on for Fletcher. Mata needs to be more involved instead of STILL playing it out wide at every given opportunity, although Herrera was trying to play through balls to them on occasions. The long balls to the strikers need to be cut down too.
 
It will take time, what's very very obvious about today's result is that we need players and fast.
 
LvG lost it when he took Herrera off instead of Fletcher. Blackett has taken up Rio's position of hoofing balls up front. Mata was anonymous. Our defence is shite.
 
Pathetic, fecking pathetic. All the pre-season hype undone after one game at home against a side that'll finish bottom half. Easy start they said, very worrying.
 
Total and utter crap performance in the second half...If Woody doesn't realise that he needs to get out the cheque book this weekend then god help us!!
 
We're a mid-table team.

We were a mid-table team last season and have done nothing to improve. You can get Van Gaal in but when you're stuck with someone like Fletcher as your midfield engine, opposition teams will be laughing.
 
Taking Herrera off was a mistake.

We looked better with the 4-4-1-1 formation, will be interesting what LVG does now.

It's obvious we need players. Hopefully this is the catalyst for a few signings.
 
It's only the first game. This is where the players have no cover, no outdated David Moyes who doesn't know what he
 
We're still in a funk from the Moyes era. Not playing with enough tempo. It'll take time to fix.
 
The sub killed us. Why bring Fellaini on?! And for our best midfield passer? Why?!!
 
TBF this was to be expected. The system will take a bit of time to implement and the manager's always been a really slow starter. That in addition to United's propensity for post-Christmas charge means we'll take a bit of time to build some momentum. Anyway hope we get a couple of signings sorted soon. The defense and midfield are still suspect. Fully expect the players (the ones that make a difference) and Louis to turn it around though.
 
Thoroughly disappointed. Same old slow passing game. It's as if the players suddenly recalled last years trauma and went into auto-pilot.

Blackett has great potential.
 
If we had beaten them by 4 goals, we would be in a much better position at the end of the season, surely.
 
Herrera sub single handedly lost us this match.

What BS. We need to stop this nonsense of believing its trivial single decisions like this. As a club, from board to fans, it's time to face up to the fact our squad needs significant investment.
 
Seems like RAWK was right.
We need some better players desperately. Trouble is, after that, the prices have gone up even more.
 
We can talk all day about tactics and substitutions but the only solution to this is signing quality players.
 
Herrera off for Fellaini was the nail in the coffin. What in god's name was the point of that sub?

Nonetheless, probably the worst possible start to the season. This team desperately needs a new CB and CM or this season will be incredibly painful.
 
Encouraging performance. The opponent could only do smash and grab, but we controlled the game. We'll get there.
 
They didn't deserve anything but the lack of chances we created was awful. Fletcher seemed to be wanting to play for Swansea the amount of times he gave it to them
 
I think we should have started as a 4,3,3 or 4,4,1,1 whatever. I think we'll struggle outwide offensively in this formation. It's negative and we've shown the last two games a lack of invention. Get wide players playing attacking the final third. We were unlucky because swansea scored with their two shots basically but still there's no point dominating the ball if you have no end product.

Against the top teams, maybe we should be more defensive - but against Swansea at home I think we should know we've the better players irrespective of if we think they're good enough.
 
We must sign new players now. Can't wait until last week again. Come back David Gill.
 
Posted this 2 weeks ago:

I think Holland's WC run and the preseason results have lead to people expecting big things from van Gaal in the first season. Understandable of course, but I think there will be one or two results that brings people back down to reality (wouldn't be surprised to see a few more fickle individuals bringing out the pitchforks too). The manager himself warned that the first few months will be bumpy.
 
That old familiar feeling from last year, eh? so disappointed with that performance.

I'd be happy if Fellaini and Nani never played for us again.
Nani was one of our better players in the 2nd half. Fellaini could have been sent off. Also, we bring him on to use his height. He's absolute rubbish at winning headers.
 
As I said in the match thread, you really have to wonder how great Fergie was. The man was a miracle worker beyond all means.
 
TBF this was to be expected. The system will take a bit of time to implement and the manager's always been a really slow starter. That in addition to United's propensity for post-Christmas charge means we'll take a bit of time to build some momentum. Anyway hope we get a couple of signings sorted soon. The defense and midfield are still suspect. Fully expect the players (the ones that make a difference) and Louis to turn it around though.
This is what I'm thinking really, never was going to be easy.

I'm suspecting that Fellaini for Herrera substitution was to see how Fellaini would fare and how we would cope without Herrera, I think the answer is clear as crystal now.
 
We couldn't pass. At all. Tiny things like Rooney's failed ball out wide or Fletcher passing it right to the opponent add up when you're trying to develop momentum. It also doesn't help when you take off our best midfield passer for someone who seemingly refuses to make himself available for the ball.
 
Silly mistakes cost you at the back, and Fellaini should have came on for Fletcher. Mata needs to be more involved instead of STILL playing it out wide at every given opportunity, although Herrera was trying to play through balls to them on occasions. The long balls to the strikers need to be cut down too.

Pretty much. The Fellaini sub baffled me. Should have come on for Fletcher who was pretty much dead on his feet by the end.
 
I thought after Rooney scored we were going to go up a gear. After Herrera came off - I don't know if that was due to injury or LvG getting frustrated by some of his "hospital ball" passing, our forwards disappeared. We might as well have taken Mata and Januzaj off as well at that point. After that we had no shape, no connection, no speed.

Honourable mention to Nani, some good runs from him, at least he tried to make the ball move.
 
Januzaj was the only player who liked doing something different in attack. Young showed why he can't be a LB. Thought Blackett did okay and Smalling had one of his best games, except his passing his still poor. Rooneys passing was slack as well today.
 

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  • Man Utd win
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Detailed Results

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  • 23% Man Utd 2:0 Swansea
  • 18% Man Utd 3:1 Swansea
  • 10% Man Utd 2:1 Swansea
  • 8% Man Utd 4:0 Swansea
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. Swansea
Possession
60% 40%
Shots
14 5
Shots on Target
5 4
Corners
4 0
Fouls
14 20

Referee

Mike Dean