Poll: are we getting crap?

Originally posted by One Remi Moses:
<strong>A relegation struggle would be fun.</strong><hr></blockquote>

no it feckin wouldnt, It'll be like reading one of my posts!
 
No, we've just had enough of the executive clubbing, megastore shopping, prawn sarnie eating, glory hunting brigade, and the only way we can think to get rid of them is to become crap for a period so they will feck off! :D
 
Originally posted by Nh1878:
<strong>No, we've just had enough of the executive clubbing, megastore shopping, prawn sarnie eating, glory hunting brigade, and the only way we can think to get rid of them is to become crap for a period so they will feck off! :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Until we start winning again.
 
Originally posted by Nh1878:
<strong>No, we've just had enough of the executive clubbing, megastore shopping, prawn sarnie eating, glory hunting brigade, and the only way we can think to get rid of them is to become crap for a period so they will feck off! :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes... I haven't been chubbed since we started being fecking shite. :D
 
We are not as good as 1999. Will we do the treble again? Probably not. Will we play that well but not have the breaks at crucial times? Probably.
Will we improve on our current level? I think so. Compared to performances since 1993 and (hoped for) performances over the next few seasons, this is the crappiest United side - but we are still top three. With real effort we could be much crappier.

Bring on relegation. Bring on trips to York, Orient, Bristol Rovers and Oxford.
 
Back to the original question. We were in a continuous down curve since 1999, that's undeniable and no need to hide away from that. It's still a bit too early this season to determine whether we are still dropping, already halt our decline, or even start to rebound. Judging from the matches in this season so far, we are:
1. Struggling in nearly every EPL match, but
2. Stroll thru the 1st round of CL fairly easily (though against some very poor opponents).

Therefore, deep in the heart I hope we can draw with some really tough opponents (such as Roma, Milan, Barca, etc.) in the second group stage of CL. Only that will we really know how good we are now, and playing against some big guys can help our players to raise their game.
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
<strong>Back to the original question. We were in a continuous down curve since 1999, that's undeniable and no need to hide away from that. It's still a bit too early this season to determine whether we are still dropping, already halt our decline, or even start to rebound. Judging from the matches in this season so far, we are:
1. Struggling in nearly every EPL match, but
2. Stroll thru the 1st round of CL fairly easily (though against some very poor opponents).

Therefore, deep in the heart I hope we can draw with some really tough opponents (such as Roma, Milan, Barca, etc.) in the second group stage of CL. Only that will we really know how good we are now, and playing against some big guys can help our players to raise their game.</strong><hr></blockquote>

We'll know by early december when we have played some of the big guns in europe and both the arse and pool
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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We'll know by early december when we have played some of the big guns in europe and both the arse and pool</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes, December is always a critical period in a season and I'm looking forward to it :)
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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Yes, December is always a critical period in a season and I'm looking forward to it :) </strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm surprise you said that...given our current form at the moment
<img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" />
 
we are becoming crap. maybe some of you are right.. we need to fall a little further in order to get rid of the glory hunters and the prawn sadwich eaters..

but.. don't you think that falling further will affect the financial situtation of the club? i wouldn't want it to come to us selling off players to save some money.. that'd be ridiculous..
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>we are becoming crap. maybe some of you are right.. we need to fall a little further in order to get rid of the glory hunters and the prawn sadwich eaters..

but.. don't you think that falling further will affect the financial situtation of the club? i wouldn't want it to come to us selling off players to save some money.. that'd be ridiculous..</strong><hr></blockquote>

We had the highest attendence in England when we were in the second division. It wont happen!
 
Originally posted by TOD:
<strong>
I'm surprise you said that...given our current form at the moment
<img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

So what? We definitely must raise our game in this period. May be we can perform our best standard when we are against the tough opponents.

Besides, we also seemed to have a "tradition" of starting to raise our game from/after December.
 
Poor English aside (glass houses and all that!) I wouldnt describe any Prem side as 'crap'

Maintaining a standard of excellence as we have done for the last 10+ years is totally undervalued by most on this forum. 90% of reds on here take winning trophies for granted. Some of us remember the harsh realities of the 70s and 80s.

Arse havent managed to maintain their own standards for 3 months !!

We still have a great great squad of players. Confidence is not what it was. When we've had a 'year off' winning the Prem in the past we've come roaring back the following season. Cos its not working to plan yet this season, players confidence has taken another dent. SAF and Keano events havent helped either.

They havent become 'crap' players. The lads coming through arnt 'crap' players. We are wounded at the moment. These players have never let us, or themselves down and I fully expect them to dig in and get back on track. Rest assured they'll be giving everything to get back on course.

"IF" they dont, it wont be for the lack of trying. There's nothing wrong with debating all things United and airing our grievances, but.... and this is the big BUT...

WE HAVE TO GET BEHIND THE TEAM.

Once a red always red, through thick and thin.

DONT EVER FORGET WHAT IT MEANS TO FOLLOW THIS GREAT GREAT CLUB

(speach over)

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One or two signings to strenghten us up in January and we'll be fine its just frustrating at the moment. For those of you who want to get rid of the glory fans (btw I do remeber the 80's and the very late 70's!!) just remeber that these are the fans that make the club the BIGGEST in the world instead of just one of the biggest. Every club needs these kind of fans as they buy all the merchandise etc and swell the clubs coffers. If the club had to rely on the money just from home games and TV we'd be Chelsea.
 
Apologies Thumper, my post about getting rid of the glory hunters was a tad tongue in cheek! Having said which, we have always been the biggest club even when we were truely crap (if any of you think we are crap now, you obviously weren't around in the 70's and 80's!). We frequently had highest attendances even when the scum were winning everything, which at least was something to be proud of in a clutching at straws kind of way! So I don't think we need to worry too much about our financial plight or suddenly having half empty stadiums ! :)

Spinoza, sorry to hear you got chubbed. :(
Obviously we aren't crap enough to get rid of all of them yet! ;)
 
The best word to describe our performances is not crap ,its "mediocre" and its a word that doesnt sit well with this club.The players need a fire up their arses,and unfortunately it will be up to the Boy Roy to give it to them,unfortunate because they are unable to do it themselves.Sounds harsh yes but its true.The likes of Olympiacus are a joke,they are mickey mouse teams.Its the struggling against Aston Villa that really worries me,we should be trampling over these teams,will we trample over Southampton on Saturday?I doubt it.The sooner we get Keane and Ruud on the pitch together,fit and playing at their peak,the better.Its the only way we will win anything this season
 
Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
<strong>Maintaining a standard of excellence as we have done for the last 10+ years is totally undervalued by most on this forum. 90% of reds on here take winning trophies for granted.....

WE HAVE TO GET BEHIND THE TEAM.
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Spot on. Trouble is 90% take winning trophies for granted because they undervalue what we have done.
 
b) we're just re grouping, there's plenty more left in this team....real test will come IMO when SAF retires & the new incumbent has to re build according to his own vision.. but won't it be just the best experience....it'll be a new era & that for me is the best thing about being a Utd fan....The 90's were absolutely exhilarating & now they have gone...there has got to be more up ahead & the ups & downs getting there are what this great club is all about....I can't wait!
What a club.... :cool: <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> :D