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Pexbo

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Not a speculative thread, more of an observation.

I was just thinking while reading the Rafael and Fabio thread when someone mentioned O'Shea. For years, squad players like O'Shea and Brown and even the likes of Park and Fletcher have been liked with moves to midtable clubs.

We very very rarely let any players who have established themselves with us go before they have left thier peak.

There are players like Ronaldo who are obviously different, players like Saha who did so because of injuries, but over the last 10 years there are only a few that perhaps left before they should have.

The likes of P.Nev, Van Nistelrooy and you could say Heinze who would have been a fair squad player if he wasn't a cnut.

If theres one thing any manager should learn from Ferguson it is that continuity is key, just look at how many players have been in our side for 6+ years.


Manchester United Transfers | Premiership Transfers

If you look though our recent history, 95% of our transfers are young players who Ferguson spotted early (that they wouldn't make it) and sold for a reasonable fee.
 
I think Macheda might find a permanent deal elsewhere. As would Wellbeck if he didn't get injured I think.

Can't see Berbatov leaving unless we got in excess of £17-odd million for him.

Scholes I doubt will stay. If Brown might interest a few too. His experience would be useful and wouldn't command a huge transfer fee.
 
Stookie said:
I wonder if Nani would stay if some big Spanish/ Italian side came in for him.
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I've never really heard of any serious interest. Aside from that brief and fleeting story a while ago, which just seemed like slow-news day filler from some hack, I don't think he's ever really been linked away.
 
I dont really want anyone out
Not sure if Brown is out of favor or been unfit all season. He might leave to get first team football
Koosh has said he might leave
Not sure what the deal with Obertan is. If he is happy, I'd like him to stay on
 
I think Brown will go this summer. Hes 31 now, 5th choice CB and seems to be 4th choice at RB now.

He's been a great servant, particularly at RB in the double year but I think his time has come.
 
VDS (retired)
Scholes (retired)
Pig
Amos
Hargreaves (retired)
Owen
Gibson

at risk

Berbatov
Wes
Cleverley
Macheda

on loan

Bebe
Obertan
 
Scholes
PIG
VDS
Gibson
Owen
Hargreaves
Diouf

Loans:

Macheda (to a PL team, if one will take him)
Obertan
Bebe (to a Championship team)
 
Pig
Vds
Brown
Hargreaves
Scholes
Obertan (loan)
Owen
Macheda

That's my hunch. Welbeck and cleverley should come back and I'd expect us to sign maybe three players.
 
Hargreaves will not extend his deal (then he will play 30 games next season at Villa, Everton or wherever he goes), Macheda could be sold to Italy for around £5m but since he hasn't done well there I'm not sure of this. Kuszczak will be sold for around £4m and I think Berbatov will go, around £12m because I don't see who else we could sell to generate money for transfers, and we definitely need a goalkeeper. Diouf will be sold as well, around £3m.
 
Pexbo said:
Not a speculative thread, more of an observation.
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Oh well, that was lost.

It was supposed to be a thread about the philosophy of sticking by players and building experience rather than having a revolving door like Arsenal.

But thanks very much for the lists.
 
Pexbo said:
Oh well, that was lost.

It was supposed to be a thread about the philosophy of sticking by players and building experience rather than having a revolving door like Arsenal.

But thanks very much for the lists.
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You knew what was going to happen when you started the thread.

But here's a nice quote about team-building which is somewhat in line with your original sentiment. It's a baseball quote about Bobby Cox, long-tenured manager of the Atlanta Braves.

I'm afraid I don't have the link, but a journalist asked one of Cox's pitching coaches what he thought of the manager's ability to keep his team around the top for decades at a time. The response was (paraphrased): "It's a real mystery. No one else can do what he does. Probably no one for a long time. And the worst thing about it is that people like us are never going to understand how hard it is. If I had to try and describe it, I'd say it's like changing two tires at a time on a car. A car that's going 90MPH on a freeway."
 
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