And so it begins...
Original source: The Daily Mirror.
Original source: The Daily Mirror.
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang | 15/16 Edition
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Good. Would take him in a heartbeat. LvG wants pace? Doesn't get much pacier than this guy.
This guy works well in a fast counter attacking side with quick transitions, which is not the sort of team we are set up to be at the moment. Not sure how much space he will have to run in behind the last defender when we advance the play so slowly and end up having to thread a pass through the eye of a needle with minimal room for error.
Honigstein knows his stuff! He predicted the stupidity of his colleagues from English media already a couple of weeks back:
http://www.theguardian.com/football...erick-aubameyang-borussia-dortmund-bundesliga
He'd be great under Fergie.
Yes please!
So does bale and thats not stopped us being linked with him for the last what the 8 transfer windows in a row?
If we qualify for the next stage of the CL and we put down a massively inflated offer and agree to some crazy wages then possibly there is a 1% chance we get Aubameyang but its pretty rare to see players of that calibre leave good teams in Jan.
Dortmund has more possession than United this season. They're much more than a fast counterattacking side with quick transitions and it doesn't seem to hurt Auba at all. His link-up and hold-up play has improved so much, he has become a sensational well rounded forward.
From what I've seen, their players also make a lot of runs off the ball unlike ours.
Yeah, but pretty much every decent team does that a lot more than United. Surely that should change at one point?
The scenario you described might be possible in the Summer and this off chance is basically only for the case that Auba pulls a De Bruyne aka forcing his way out of the contract (which would be extremely uncharacteristic for him given his behaviour he showed so far at the club). A transfer in the winter is completely impossible no matter what money a club would offer. Getting back into the CL is more important than anything for more than just financial reasons.
As for the rumour itself: it is basically business as usual, there has in fact been no transfer window in the last 5 years when a player of us was not linked with an EPL Club. You would think the papers would at one point understand that we always have followed a hard line when it comes to giving up players we have control over, but then again the British media with their hype machine has always thought that EPL Clubs could just take players from the continent as they please no matter how often they were proven wrong.
here is a goal compilation
and these are the recent goals missing
and these are the recent goals missing
It's because the squad has lacked enough players with the required technical ability for a good while.
You can't just carve teams open by having great movement. The technique has to match. Too many of these players are (and have been) too limited to play in tight areas and to attempt tricky passes. Thus the movement can never be that great, because the players only want to receive the ball in comfortable areas, and pass the ball into comfortable areas. Areas that don't harm the opposition.
Part of our issue is no one is running in behind players, so our midfield struggles for options & plays it safely sideways. Stick a mobile striker up front with a turn of pace and.....
Same as kagawa was?
This guy is an absolute arsehole on Fifa. I always play as Liverpool, so constantly getting matched against BD means constantly dealing with this guy and his 194959 pace.
He's hardly Einstein for predicting that one of the top three inform strikers in Europe would be lazily linked to PL clubs.
Honigstein knows his stuff! He predicted the stupidity of his colleagues from English media already a couple of weeks back:
http://www.theguardian.com/football...erick-aubameyang-borussia-dortmund-bundesliga
I don't think he's that good. He's scored a lot of goals this season, but I think that's mostly because of his team, not his individual brilliance.
I get your point about our players not having the touch or control to receive the ball in tight areas but making off the ball runs doesn't require technical ability. Even the run its self will open up play, as regardless of who the player is making the run, the defence will have to pick them up.
Also, I think you are under-estimating the technical ability of some of our players. I reckon most of them have the ability to play in tight spaces. Whether they have the confidence to is a different matter.
I'm not claiming that Honigstein is Einstein; however, hardly anybody dares to point out so bluntly that you can always rely on the stupidity of English media. Well done, Rafa.
He scored quite a few last season and his team was a bag of shite. Hes a good player, not elite level though
I think he's an elite striker at the moment. It's not all tap-ins with him.
I wouldn't put him with Suarez Aguero Lewa, but he is a top striker.
That's what I meant, people are acting like he's one of the best players in the world.
When you play a possession game, it's much harder to make runs because the opposition are encouraged to sit deep.
This is why I believe it does require technical ability. Simple movement wont be enough because there isn't space to make lots of runs. The technique is needed to either turn and go past players, hold the ball a second or two longer under pressure, pass into the congested areas... Only then can the opposition be dragged around enough to create space for runs around the goal.
The type of runs needed require high levels of technical ability, because hardly any of the runs will be into space (like there would be if a team counter attacks.)
If that makes sense.
For example, Bayern's players aren't just making easy runs that United players could learn. They're making runs in all sorts of tight positions that require top levels of technique. After that comes the openings. They do the hard work in the tight areas, drag teams about, and that's why they appear to have loads of space when it comes to the final ball.
Most of them?
Memphis clearly needs to gather momentum before he gets going. From standstill (and in tight spots) he's not great.
Same for Rooney. To a greater extent.
Young isn't good enough, but can (on his day) dribble past his fullback. But only really when he manages to isolate the fullback.
Mata is tidy, but can't deal with pressure, and resorts to running backwards, passing sideways and playing safe, if he gets closed down.
Lingard - I'll give you that one. But it's yet to been seen if he's good enough in general.
Martial - I'll give you that one.
Moving to midfield:
Herrera isn't ultra-consistent in his technique, but he at least shows a willingness to play through the middle and when under pressure. So I can agree about him.
Carrick - great at passing through the lines, but can't hold the ball under pressure. Prefers to avoid tight spots.
Schweinsteiger - Great all-rounder, but not a zippy or inventive passer. Doesn't tend to station himself in tight spots.
Would be a great signing, surely wouldn't cost over €30m either?
I think Watzke said he won't even listen to offers below 60m € and even then he wouldn't necessarily sell him. You can bet your ass that every Dortmund star that still has a contract running longer than one year and is rated by the manager won't be going for anything less than that. Especially not to an English team.
He scored some amazing goals. For me it's just the question if he is simply on a great run or if he has now permanantly made the step up into the striker elite in Europe. If so he will of course be hunted in the summer by every team that can pay him more than you guys.
The 15/16 edition?
Some nerve
Some nerve
Surely not more than 10.
Make an offer and throw in Rooney as well. Surely Dortmund can't refuse!
he is lightening quick and his movement in and around the box looks good, but would he really benefit from playing in the current United side with the slow build up play and square passing.
A big part of our problem are out static, "lack of runners", front 4 though, so I assume, add more players like Martial and this lad, and yeah, we'll eventually be much better to watch.
We have absolutely no chance of getting him.
The bold was a myth produced by the Springer press, which has basically no informations about the inner workings of Borussia Dortmund. I don´t believe for a second that one of our officials put a price tag on Auba at this time and if there would be one, it would not be at 60 Mil. € but a lot higher.
In today´s market a striker with the scoring abilities of Aubameyang would be at least worth 50 Mil.€ (there was infact a confirmed offer by Arsenal this Summer before he set the league on fire and signed a new contract), probably closer to 60 Mil. €. This is the kind of money we could get right now if we would be willing to sell and put him on the market. Why would we willing to listen to offers in that region if we have no intention of selling him?
The guy has five years left on his contract, just commited himself this Summer to the club when his old one was still running until 2018. Any buyer would need to compensate Dortmund for giving up this incredibly comfortable contract situation. This compensation would be on top of his normal worth. If and that is a big if as it would need Auba to be adamant to leave, he leaves at the end of this season, he would become the league´s new record transfer by a comfortable distance.
Ferguson gave up caring, Moyes thought attacking consisted of getting it out wide and whipping it in and Van Gaal is too afraid of losing shape to encourage positive runs.
Your last three managers just don't know/aren't interested in developing fast paced attacking sides.
Not sure he suits LvG, fantastic to watch though.