Phil Jagielka to Arsenal?
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He would be an excellent buy for them, a very good and versatile defender.
£10 million does seem far too low. I've always liked Jagielka - he's a good player and exactly the sort they should be targetting.
Arsenal fans would be extremely encouraged by this, it would appear Wenger has finally given in.
£10million rejected. should cost at least £15million. good signing for arsenal if they get him.
£15m to £20m and they will get him. A defender with Premier League experience is exactly what Arsenal need, I agree.
If they can sign him, and keep Vermaelen fit, then they'll have a fairly solid defensive partnership. Although, I have my doubts whether Wenger will actually cough up $20m for Jagielka, if as the article implies, Everton would see that as a minimum for negotiation.
if Lescott went for 24m then jagielka should go for more than that
I'd be gutted to see him go to Arsenal.
Having grown up with, and played a bit of football with Phil, I know how much of a United fan he is and to see him playing for one our rivals would be horrible, especially considering he is an exceptional defender and what Arsenal need to strengthen at the back.
I'd expect him to go for anything above £15m due to his age and presumed desire to test himself on the CL stage.
Having grown up with, and played a bit of football with Phil, I know how much of a United fan he is and to see him playing for one our rivals would be horrible, especially considering he is an exceptional defender and what Arsenal need to strengthen at the back.
I'd expect him to go for anything above £15m due to his age and presumed desire to test himself on the CL stage.
If the article is to be believed, Arsenal bid 12m for him last summer and ended up with 2 rubbish french defenders
Would Wenger dare do that again though? I think the atmosphere towards him now is a lot more hostile than it was last summer, another poor transfer window followed by the same kind of season could really pile the pressure on him.
I agree with that in theory as I think Jagielka is the better player, but the difference is the buying club this time is Arsenal who are notoriously tight-fisted and that time it was City for whom money is no object! City also enraged them with how they went about it which probably added a few more million onto the price. Everton will not be able to get that kind of money out of Arsenal, so if they get a decent offer and Jagielka wants to go (which he probably will) then I think he'll go for less than Lescott did.
Arsenal could do with a player like him, whether Wenger will take his stubborn finger out of his arse and pay the proper price is another matter.
He's not going for any less than £17m. Hence he won't be coming.
Agreed. I think he'd make a huge difference for them.
We've got to buy a CB even if we pay over the odds.
I think Wenger might finally see sense and pay what it takes. A player like Jagielka could mean the difference between a real title challenge, and yet more dissapointment. Wenger must know he's running out of time.
Pretty much. Would be criminal of Wenger to overlook the situation, we'd just be shooting ourselves in the foot.
I doubt Wenger will pay the 17-22m they'll probably demand. He'll settle for some French defenders eventually.
He'd be an excellent signing for them.
What is stopping the Arsenal board from buying a strong defender and just forcing him on Wenger? Wenger's ideals be damned but, at some point the board need to overrule him if he is hurting the club.
Because that way lies Chelsification.
If they're going to be asking for £15m+ then I think they could do better. Cahill for one is probably just as good with the potential to be a top centre back.
It's promising for Arsenal that he's finally looking to sort it though. They've already tried for Smalling, Jones and now Jagielka.
It's promising for Arsenal that he's finally looking to sort it though. They've already tried for Smalling, Jones and now Jagielka.
Also played a bit with iggy, loves United. You didn't go to Knutsford High by any chance K Stand? Or are you an alty boy?
The problem with that logic is :
A) Thats City, they pay over the odds for most players and you cant expect that from all other clubs. If it was City going for Jagielka I'm sure Everton would be making that point. But its not
B) We all know he shouldnt have cost that much. The question is how much was/is he actually worth?
If we ignore the fact he's a City player for a second, and a bit overrated especially with that transfer... He's strong, quick and has played LB successfully in the premier league scoring a bunch of goals from that position for Everton and he's an England international. On the downside he's clumsy
I'd say he's probably worth around £12-13 million right now due to poorer form at City. And Jagielka is definitely a better defender so the fee should be several million above that
While he'd improve them, they really need to be looking at a higher calibre of player to really challenge.
18 would be fair and maybe a loanee to sweeten the cake.
Bendtner the other way is the only way we're getting him for our current offer.
Is he really better than the likes of Djourou? He's probably not better than Vermallen and Koschielny.
They need a left back more than they need a CB at the moment. Djourou really isn't bad. He plays well for Arsenal.
Everton could do with Bendtner actually
10m + Bendtner would be a fair deal!!!!
Yes. He's better than 2 of those and by some margin. Doesnt mean he's worth £20 million though...
He's better then any 'keeper l'Arse have, this deal makes sense...
He is definitely better than Djourou. Him being better than Koschielny is debatable but he will never be better than Vermaelen.
If he signed for us, I'd rip up my season ticket on the Emirates pitch on the first day of the season. Never forgive, never forget.
Don't Everton need the money though? The last player they signed was Dixie Dean...
Jagielka is a good defender. Something Arsenal lacked last season with Vermaelen out.
Koscielny has a bit of pace and likes to be aggressive with his tackling and stealing the ball off a striker's toe when they receive it. But other than that? His defending is very questionable
Djourou is a little less questionable but he has a tendancy to try and do too much on the ball and its madness giving the ball away like that as a CB.
Neither are good enough. Jagielka certainly would be. A partnership of Vermaelen and Jagielka, as long as Vermaelen was back to first season form, it would do a lot for Arsenal and it would also make Sciezny look better with some capable defenders in front of him
For all the hype about Vermaelen, Arsenal were very porous when he was in the side. He got caught upfield a lot. Very athletic and skilful but positional sense not the best. Conceded a good bit more goals/game than they did with Djourou/Koscielny.
Djourou/Koscielny was a good partnership for us last year, and as ever, it was broken up by injury. Centre-half isn't as much of an issue as left back, which needs to be addressed as soon as possible.
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