Pakistan v Sri Lanka

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Might be of little interest to the world, but Pakistan have played their first game of cricket on home soil for over a year. After numerous back stabbing countries pulled out (mainly in favour of the more safer Mumbai area and their alert police officers :rolleyes:) Sri Lanka felt the full backlash.

Sri Lanka aren't without their cnutish behaviour either by first agreeing to play ODIs and tests with us hoping to win our favour, then when one-man-and-his-dog India whistled they are running over to India mid series.

I'd love it, just love it, if we thrash the Lankans for this. India may have the most fans in the world but nobody does cricket like the Pakistanis (drugs, match fixing, walk offs, ball tampering, enigmatic bowlers, flash batsmen). Nobody.
 
Dumpstar said:
Might be of little interest to the world, but Pakistan have played their first game of cricket on home soil for over a year. After numerous back stabbing countries pulled out (mainly in favour of the more safer Mumbai area and their alert police officers :rolleyes:) Sri Lanka felt the full backlash.

Sri Lanka aren't without their cnutish behaviour either by first agreeing to play ODIs and tests with us hoping to win our favour, then when one-man-and-his-dog India whistled they are running over to India mid series.

I'd love it, just love it, if we thrash the Lankans for this. India may have the most fans in the world but nobody does cricket like the Pakistanis (drugs, match fixing, walk offs, ball tampering, enigmatic bowlers, flash batsmen). Nobody.
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And thank Christ for that.
 
Sounding a bit bitter there.
 
Yeah, why the bitterness dumpy? And expecting India to play in Pakistan after what happened is a bit naive don't you think?

Anyway this thrashing of Sri Lanka isn't going to plan either.
 
No, the plan's not going too well. Let's hope we do them on Sunday.

Bitterness is understandable, not because countries don't want to tour Pakistan - which is fair enough. But the blatant and disgusting double standards shown by the so-called cricket family. LETS ALL STAND UP AGAINST TERRORISM (except with Pakistan) is the general message.

Indian players and board are cnuts of the highest order now. OK, don't tour Pakistan despite having your police force shown up to be one of the worst in the world. But why deliberately throw a bone to the Lankans when they've agreed to tour us?

I might sound like a bitter Pakistani fan, but I'm also a bitter cricket fan. Bitter because of the behaviour of childish political figures in a once loved gentlemen's sport.
 
Dumpstar said:
No, the plan's not going too well. Let's hope we do them on Sunday.

Bitterness is understandable, not because countries don't want to tour Pakistan - which is fair enough. But the blatant and disgusting double standards shown by the so-called cricket family. LETS ALL STAND UP AGAINST TERRORISM (except with Pakistan) is the general message.

Indian players and board are cnuts of the highest order now. OK, don't tour Pakistan despite having your police force shown up to be one of the worst in the world. But why deliberately throw a bone to the Lankans when they've agreed to tour us?

I might sound like a bitter Pakistani fan, but I'm also a bitter cricket fan. Bitter because of the behaviour of childish political figures in a once loved gentlemen's sport.
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Yes Indian politics in cricket can be frustrating. But don't really see your point in this case. Whats this about throwing a bone to Lanka? Haven't read anything on cricinfo. Link?

And what does the police have to do with it? You're almost suggesting that the terrorist attacks happened because of the police rather than the terrorists themselves!
 
I'm not suggesting any such thing but I will bring to your attention the relative safety of cricketing venues.

Firstly, a quick recap. The Indian players and board pulled out unanimously on the very morning that the Mumbai terrorism was about to take place, because they feared for their safety in Pakistan. How's that for sweet, sweet irony? Next day the players, media, etc, were pleading with the English to continue their tour to stand up to these despicable terrorists. How's that for blatant hypocrisy? You want more? OK, the English heard the chi-ching of cricket unity (i.e. money) and forwarded their support to their cricketing brethren. The same England team that refused to go to Pakistan for the mini world cup because they feared for their safety. :rolleyes:

Now for the Indian policemen.

It is obvious and open that the Indian police were inept and ill equipped to deal with such a situation as a very few armed gunmen. Why then did the English (chi-ching) feel it was safe to return to a city run so ineptly (chi ching)?

On the other hand, any cricketing team that visits Pakistan has been getting the level of protection that only heads of state (Blair, Bush, etc) get. This has been happening in Pakistan for a number of years and Pakistan repeated as much to safeguard the mini world cup. There was/is no love from the cricketing 'brethren' for the Pakistanis even when you get protection like that. I know as an Englishman I would be safer with that protection than the keystone kops of Mumbai.

Finally, the bone in the coffin.

Pakistan, after over a year in the wilderness, asked the Lankans to come over who actually made the effort. What have the Indians done? They offered the Lankans chi-ching to interrupt the Pakistani tour and go to India for some games, slap bang in the middle of our tour. And the hungry, ball licking Lankans could not do much else.

So the Lankans will finish their measly 3 ODIs with us, then go to India for a tour, then come back to us for some measly 3 tests. What's your bet the Lankans after the Indian tour (and backhanded chi ching) will claim tiredness and call off the test series with us?

So, there it is in black and white.
 
Dumpstar said:
Firstly, a quick recap. The Indian players and board pulled out unanimously on the very morning that the Mumbai terrorism was about to take place, because they feared for their safety in Pakistan. How's that for sweet, sweet irony?
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Wrong. It was not called off at all before the Mumbai blasts. Some players suggested in the interviews that they were not too keen to travel but no official decision was taken. Without these blasts, tour would have happened albeit without a couple of players.

Our police was inept in dealing with such an attack just like US were with 9/11. Both these attacks were first of a kind, so it is not really a surprise.

Finally, there is a small but crucial difference in situation in India and Pak. We have a fully functional democratic Govt to oversee things here, while no one knows who the feck is running things in Pak. So there is no surprise if teams are more willing to tour us and not Pak. Not saying the money factor does not come into, it plays a big role but it is not the sole factor either.
 
crappycraperson said:
Wrong. It was not called off at all before the Mumbai blasts. Some players suggested in the interviews that they were not too keen to travel but no official decision was taken. Without these blasts, tour would have happened albeit without a couple of players.

Our police was inept in dealing with such an attack just like US were with 9/11. Both these attacks were first of a kind, so it is not really a surprise.

Finally, there is a small but crucial difference in situation in India and Pak. We have a fully functional democratic Govt to oversee things here, while no one knows who the feck is running things in Pak. So there is no surprise if teams are more willing to tour us and not Pak. Not saying the money factor does not come into, it plays a big role but it is not the sole factor either.
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So why f*ck about with our Lankan tour now? Why not offer us some cricket brethren support and show unity by letting the Lankans finish their tour with us. Why not step back and offer that hand of unity?

It would be polite and 'gentlemenly' to do so.

But you didn't, because the Indian players/board seem to be neither.

And leave the world politics out of this. The Indians and US were not ready for such idiotic terrorist attacks but Pakistan is very well adapted. When the Pakistan army gives you Head Of State protection you stay protected!!
 
Dumpstar said:
So why f*ck about with our Lankan tour now? Why not offer us some cricket brethren support and show unity by letting the Lankans finish their tour with us. Why not step back and offer that hand of unity?

It would be polite and 'gentlemenly' to do so.

But you didn't, because the Indian players/board seem to be neither.

And leave the world politics out of this. The Indians and US were not ready for such idiotic terrorist attacks but Pakistan is very well adapted. When the Pakistan army gives you Head Of State protection you stay protected!!
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Indian players have nothing to do with tour arrangements. Our board is not 'gentlemenly' indeed, they are very greedy though. They themselves had to endure some losses due to cancellation of couple of ODIs with England and the Pak tour. Thus trying to rope in Lanka to make up for that.

You were the ones who bought world politics into the cricket thread in the first place. It is not India's fault that other nations do not have faith in your security arrangements. India was against cancellation of last year's Champions trophy as well. Our tour was called off for different reasons than secuity.
 
Dumpstar said:
Pakistan, after over a year in the wilderness, asked the Lankans to come over who actually made the effort. What have the Indians done? They offered the Lankans chi-ching to interrupt the Pakistani tour and go to India for some games, slap bang in the middle of our tour. And the hungry, ball licking Lankans could not do much else.

So the Lankans will finish their measly 3 ODIs with us, then go to India for a tour, then come back to us for some measly 3 tests. What's your bet the Lankans after the Indian tour (and backhanded chi ching) will claim tiredness and call off the test series with us?

So, there it is in black and white.
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Oh well, this thread didn't go too well. :lol::lol:

Our board is skint and this was always going to happen the moment the Indians came in. There is so much corruption and politicians interfering in sporting matters is making things worse. We have just signed a lucrative deal with BCCI which would ensure there are no tours arranged during the IPL. It is a sad state of affairs but we just have to deal with it.
 
Well that was a gutless, but understandably rusty, performance by Pakistan. Would loved to have thrashed the Lankans, but what can you do. Now to wait for another year before I see another match.
 
Dumpstar said:
I'm not suggesting any such thing but I will bring to your attention the relative safety of cricketing venues.

Firstly, a quick recap. The Indian players and board pulled out unanimously on the very morning that the Mumbai terrorism was about to take place, because they feared for their safety in Pakistan. How's that for sweet, sweet irony? Next day the players, media, etc, were pleading with the English to continue their tour to stand up to these despicable terrorists. How's that for blatant hypocrisy? You want more? OK, the English heard the chi-ching of cricket unity (i.e. money) and forwarded their support to their cricketing brethren. The same England team that refused to go to Pakistan for the mini world cup because they feared for their safety. :rolleyes:

Now for the Indian policemen.

It is obvious and open that the Indian police were inept and ill equipped to deal with such a situation as a very few armed gunmen. Why then did the English (chi-ching) feel it was safe to return to a city run so ineptly (chi ching)?

On the other hand, any cricketing team that visits Pakistan has been getting the level of protection that only heads of state (Blair, Bush, etc) get. This has been happening in Pakistan for a number of years and Pakistan repeated as much to safeguard the mini world cup. There was/is no love from the cricketing 'brethren' for the Pakistanis even when you get protection like that. I know as an Englishman I would be safer with that protection than the keystone kops of Mumbai.

Finally, the bone in the coffin.

Pakistan, after over a year in the wilderness, asked the Lankans to come over who actually made the effort. What have the Indians done? They offered the Lankans chi-ching to interrupt the Pakistani tour and go to India for some games, slap bang in the middle of our tour. And the hungry, ball licking Lankans could not do much else.

So the Lankans will finish their measly 3 ODIs with us, then go to India for a tour, then come back to us for some measly 3 tests. What's your bet the Lankans after the Indian tour (and backhanded chi ching) will claim tiredness and call off the test series with us?

So, there it is in black and white.
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Indian cricket board are corrupted to the core, run more like a X rated porn industry these days, wont be surprised if they are pimping some long legged bollywood bitches to satisfy the cricketers. They are sure to lose big money but are apprehensive on the safety measures and the backlash in the event of a catastrope- 15 Indian players travelling to Pakistan should become the cynosure of all Terrorist organizations for two months in their own backyard.

We cannot send players and enjoy cricket when you lot pump in mercenaries and kill Indian civilians.
 
vijay said:
Indian cricket board are corrupted to the core, run more like a X rated porn industry these days, wont be surprised if they are pimping some long legged bollywood bitches to satisfy the cricketers. They are sure to lose big money but are apprehensive on the safety measures and the backlash in the event of a catastrope- 15 Indian players travelling to Pakistan should become the cynosure of all Terrorist organizations for two months in their own backyard.

We cannot send players and enjoy cricket when you lot pump in mercenaries and kill Indian civilians.
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Fair enough admitting that your board is corrupt.

But to counter your 'pumping mercenaires into India' if this is really true (which I obviously disagree) then surely this has been going on for 60 odd years. Why let cricket now become a weapon in these politics?

If anything there have been more 'dangerous times' between India/Pakistan in previous decades and its never affected the cricket. I reiterate, Bush/Blair/Rice have all visited Pakistan and have been the safest under Pakistani guard than anywhere else in the world. All visiting cricketers are afforded the same guarantees and have been for years - no exceptions. Indian cricketers are treated as royalty in terms of hospitality and safety.
 
What was the public reaction like in India? I bet there would have been huge pressure to not travel. Timing probably has a lot to do with it as well.

It has affected the cricket once with the Kashmir situation - full tours were never played in each others yard. The only meetings were on neutral grounds i.e. cups. Late 90's and early 2000's, around the time Pak had a great team n' all.

By the way, you gotta stop with these jinxing threads.
 
You have to understand how waht happened in Mumbai really hit and hurt the Indian public in general. It was horrific. This coupled with the fact that the attack originated from Pakistan, and Pakistan's stubborness to accept accountabilty for the purpotrators of the attacks riled India. The tour had to be called off.

It makes sense too; if it hurts the population of Pakistan that teams don't tour the country, maybe they will take a tougher attitude towards terrorism in the country, and not, like in previous years encourage and support the terrorists as proxies against India.

Anyway, Im kind of glad that India didn't tour, just because I personally felt that the two teams played too frequently against each other over the past few years. Lost some of the excitement that used to be there because of that.
 
Dump, I think you have gone over the top.

First, Lanka did not go to India. India came to Colombo.
Then, due to problems we have in Sri-Lanka, many teams do not want to come here either. So, when India offered to tour, we had to accept it. then there was the money factor. Who'd refuse a few million bucks? If India was spiteful with Pakistan, why bring Lanka into the picture? Moreover Lanka did not ask you for tour. You asked Lanka to come. So for the sake of solidarity Lanka came. And thanks for being so kind.

As for the terror attacks, Pakistan has had lawlessness for quite some time. It is not a new phenomenon. So, the excuse about player safety is just crap.
This is downright politics. And India is at the bottom of the shitheap. But Pakistan will get over this problem.

And hey, Dumpy. How was the hiding you guys got?
 
Pakistan cricket must be at on all time low. As for Sri Lanka they've done well over the last decade and a half. Used to be a joke of cricketing nation, but since the WC victory, everything's changed. The public loves the sport and that's been reflected in their teams. We should've forget that Lanka's only a tiny nation.
 
anver said:
Dump, I think you have gone over the top.

First, Lanka did not go to India. India came to Colombo.
Then, due to problems we have in Sri-Lanka, many teams do not want to come here either. So, when India offered to tour, we had to accept it. then there was the money factor. Who'd refuse a few million bucks? If India was spiteful with Pakistan, why bring Lanka into the picture? Moreover Lanka did not ask you for tour. You asked Lanka to come. So for the sake of solidarity Lanka came. And thanks for being so kind.

As for the terror attacks, Pakistan has had lawlessness for quite some time. It is not a new phenomenon. So, the excuse about player safety is just crap.
This is downright politics. And India is at the bottom of the shitheap. But Pakistan will get over this problem.

And hey, Dumpy. How was the hiding you guys got?
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To be fair, Pakistan did play in Lanka, when Aus and Windies refused. (WC, I think)
 
Spoony said:
Pakistan cricket must be at on all time low. As for Sri Lanka they've done well over the last decade and a half. Used to be a joke of cricketing nation, but since the WC victory, everything's changed. The public loves the sport and that's been reflected in their teams. We should've forget that Lanka's only a tiny nation.
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Yes spoony a peace loving nation, a nation that stands for equality and definately not for racism or genoicide, oh no wait.........:rolleyes:
 
Devil_forever said:
Yes spoony a peace loving nation, a nation that stands for equality and definately not for racism or genoicide, oh no wait.........:rolleyes:
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Now what's that got to do with cricket? Dont be a pinhead. I live here, and I dont find them racist, although i am of Indian origin.

Oh. You're referring to the Tamil problem. Try containing a terrorist outfit as deadly as the Tigers, and you will know what racism means.

Genocide? The LTTE is using their own people as human shields. They are killing their own people who try to flee the conflict areas. Give credit to the Lankan army. They are doing a thankless job. And we have the whole west crying out for a political solution. And we have Devil_forever screaming genocide and racism. Sanctimonious humbugs.
 
anver said:
Now what's that got to do with cricket? Dont be a pinhead. I live here, and I dont find them racist, although i am of Indian origin.

Oh. You're referring to the Tamil problem. Try containing a terrorist outfit as deadly as the Tigers, and you will know what racism means.

Genocide? The LTTE is using their own people as human shields. They are killing their own people who try to flee the conflict areas. Give credit to the Lankan army. They are doing a thankless job. And we have the whole west crying out for a political solution. And we have Devil_forever screaming genocide and racism. Sanctimonious humbugs.
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I have no direct interest in the conflict but i have friends from both sides who do. I've seen alot of things carried out by the Sr-Lankan army on the civillians using the LTTE as an excuse. Heard the interview by one of the major faces of srilankan politics where he says "anything outside the safezone is a legitimate target, even hospitals". My mate along with millions of other tamils support the LTTE for a reason, not because they love terrorists and hate the peace loving equality, loving sri lankan army. Oh yeah say good luck to your 3 big guys who'll soon be facing a genocide trial. If you think the LTTE are plain terrorists then well done you for buying into media rubbish (As I did before I got to see the other side of things). He has direct pictures from journalists there, and human rights watch have reported 2000 civillians have been killed in the last month or so. Hear about the case of a sinhala farmer witnessing the moment when the armed forces set 25 females alight while they were alive after raping them? Are you sinhala or tamil?

You know what I'll get him to register on here and you can have a debate with him, he's personally been affected.
 
Pak aren't what they used to be test match wise. Just don't have the players and its hard getting a game anyway for these youngsters. They'll be back though, just need a bit of consistency to the whole set up and stop the sillyness. (i admit no chance in that :lol:)

The shorter version of the game though....... (if we turn up :lol:)
 
Devil_forever said:
I have no direct interest in the conflict but i have friends from both sides who do. I've seen alot of things carried out by the Sr-Lankan army on the civillians using the LTTE as an excuse. Heard the interview by one of the major faces of srilankan politics where he says "anything outside the safezone is a legitimate target, even hospitals". My mate along with millions of other tamils support the LTTE for a reason, not because they love terrorists and hate the peace loving equality, loving sri lankan army. Oh yeah say good luck to your 3 big guys who'll soon be facing a genocide trial. If you think the LTTE are plain terrorists then well done you for buying into media rubbish (As I did before I got to see the other side of things). He has direct pictures from journalists there, and human rights watch have reported 2000 civillians have been killed in the last month or so. Hear about the case of a sinhala farmer witnessing the moment when the armed forces set 25 females alight while they were alive after raping them? Are you sinhala or tamil?

You know what I'll get him to register on here and you can have a debate with him, he's personally been affected.
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In a conflict like the one we are seeing, excesses do occur; but, the SL army has been quite efficient, and professional in its approach. maybe not 100%, but better than what they were about 20 years ago.

As for the pix and the burning of the 25 females. That's what LTTE is well known for- sensationalism. So, you have inside news. BBC or CNN or Al Jazeera are not privy to this info. Only your Tamil mates have these pix, and news.

And your mate will also say that it was the SL army who did the ethnic cleansing of Muslims from Jaffna; he will also say that it was the SL army who butchered hundreds of Muslims who were praying in a mosque in Kattankudy in the Eastern Province. And he will also say that the LTTE is wrongly blamed for these atrocities.

Most of the Tamils who come to UK are those who want to get away from being forcefully recruited by the LTTE. Your mate may be one of them. I dont know. My sympathies are with him and the Tamils in general.

Grow up, mate. And the three big guys who will face a genocide trial: why dont they bring proceedings right away?

Ah. Yes. That political interview, and the statement "anything outside the safezone is a legitimate target, even hospitals". Who made that statement? and can you tell me where and when it was aired?

I am waiting for your feedback.

Am I Sinhala or Tamil? What does it matter to you? Did I ask you your race?

One more thing: This is not the forum for us to be debating this festering issue, and this thread started on a different topic; it has now degenerated into a political battle. Let us preserve the dignity of the Cafe. OK?
 
No tests in ages and they prepare a pitch like this.

What a waste of time.
 
SL cricket team bus shot at in Pakistan!

6 security personnel killed..

at least 2 players reported with gunshot wounds and taken to Hospital...

Just watching it on Geo news etc..


The one team that was ready to tour Pakistan, and this happens with them...madness...
 
i heard 6 injured / 1 serious .

saw the video of the attackers as well ..
crazy
 
What the feck is wrong with these people? What have these cricketers got to do with anything? feck sake... i hope they all recover..
 
Absolute Madness !! The situation in Pakistan has gone beyond control. Its worse than the middle ages over there. Who are these mad men and what do they want ? Gutted.

Looks like Samaraweera is very critical. Sangakkara, Mendis and Vaas less so.
 
Five Sri Lankan players have been injured in a terrorist attack near the Gaddafi Stadium in Lahore. Mahela Jayawardene, Ajantha Mendis, Kumar Sangakkara, Thilan Samaraweera and Tharanga Paranavitana are those being treated in hospital for minor injuries.

The Sri Lankans were on their way to the Gaddafi Stadium when their bus was attacked by five armed terrorists near Liberty market. Habibur Rehman, chief commissioner of police, said 12 masked terrorists fired at the Sri Lankan team bus. The gunmen shot at the wheels of the bus and also injured the driver. A grenade was also thrown at the bus but it missed. The incident puts the ongoing second Test and the tour in doubt.

"The bus came under attack as we were driving to the stadium, the gunmen targeted the wheels of the bus first and then the bus," Mahela Jayawardene told Cricinfo. "We all dived to the floor to take cover. About five players have been injured and also Paul Farbrace [a member of the support staff], but most of the injuries appear to be minor at this stage and caused by debris."
 
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