Our Wings - Becks in middle, Giggs on right.

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I was just thinking what with all these Keano to CB posts, Veron could run the game. But then I thought we might sell him and then Beckham could move inside to run the game.

Also dont you think Giggs might be better on the right? His delivery is pretty poor. Playing on the right would allow him to cut inside better (cos he does it all the time anyways) and have a crack at goal and get in the box etc. This would lead to more penalties too no? and cause havoc in the box.

But that doesnt really matter, all we need if we sell Veron is a decent winger cos Bex can play in the middle. Do you think Fergie might be looking at this?

This would also increase our options and make us more unpredictable, Giggs on both flanks/up front. Beckham in middle or right, new winger on both flanks, Scholes/Butt/Keane in middle.
 
Id love to see Beckham play in the middle. I prefer Man Utd to play with out & out wingers rather than right sided midfielders like Beckham.
Problem is that our central midield is crowded.
4 great players going for 2 places. The more i look at it the more i believe Keane moving back to defence would be a good thing. It would lengthrn his career and perhaps allow us to utilise Veron better.
Veron, Butt, Bex & Scholes could be used in any compilation. We'd need a couple of decent wide men though, on both flanks.
Maybe Fergie will call everyones bluff and only sign feck all defenders and attacking players only.
 
What about Chadwick? He looked impressive before his injuries. He is a natural right winger and can run with the ball. This may allow bex to play in the middle.
 
Beckham's crosses from the right provide too many of our goals. When he moves into the centre he seems to start spraying the ball all over the place with less effect. I'd always keep him on the right where his biggest asset - crosses - will continue to serve us well. Giggs on the right could be interesting but less of a threat than Beckham. As for Chadwick, I seriously think we need to forget about him.
 
I hate Giggs on the right. I remember cringing whenever Sharpe played on the left that Giggs had to play on the right and he was very much less effective.
 
why not play with 3 defenders then keane as defensive mid
then we play three more mid
and another attacking mid
then 2 strikers

it will turn out like this

RVN Solsjkaer

veron

giggs scholes beckham

keane

silvester blanc gary neville

barthez

with that keane can go up into midfield when attacking and drop down when defending

jus an idea

maybe this way we can fit 5 midfielders
and one good thing is that veron and keane wun get into each other's way
 
Great idea Giggsy. Let's abandon this silly idea of strengthening the defence and just play with one less defender. Why can't fergie think of this?Who needs Thuram, Ayala, Nesta or this Rio chap anyway.
 
Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
<strong>I was just thinking what with all these Keano to CB posts, Veron could run the game. But then I thought we might sell him and then Beckham could move inside to run the game.

Also dont you think Giggs might be better on the right? His delivery is pretty poor. Playing on the right would allow him to cut inside better (cos he does it all the time anyways) and have a crack at goal and get in the box etc. This would lead to more penalties too no? and cause havoc in the box.

But that doesnt really matter, all we need if we sell Veron is a decent winger cos Bex can play in the middle. Do you think Fergie might be looking at this?

This would also increase our options and make us more unpredictable, Giggs on both flanks/up front. Beckham in middle or right, new winger on both flanks, Scholes/Butt/Keane in middle.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Giggs has played on the right for a few matches with little effect, and if he moved to the right then who played on the left? Beckham can continue to play on the right and then move to centre and change place with Keane or Scholes, just as he did in the last one or two seasons. IMO we don't need any big change to the midfield, but rather we should get a forward who can provide the spark just as Cantona, Sheringham or Yorke did in the past.
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You're wrong because midfield is where we lost everything this year. OK it was a combination of everything really...but the midfield is where its won and lost.

Giggsy has been absolutely pathetic down the left this season. I remember when he played in the middle though, he was much more of a threat cos he makes marauding runs into the box against CBs. The RB can just push him out wide on the left or stop that cross coming in.

On the right he has freedom to go outside or inside, to cross, to shoot, to pass, make thru balls, chips over defenders, to dribble inside or out. He did it very well against Deportivo and being on the wing gives him the space he needs instead of up front where he vanishes from the game. The only thing he can do o left is beat the player and cross it or cut it back. Very predictable.

I think if we sold Veron, instead of getting a replacement, Beckham should be his replacement in CM, Giggs = Becks replacement on right wing and we buy a new left winger instead. Which may be cheaper than buying a new CM and is probably a position we need to strengthen regardless of Veron being sold or not.

We could get back to the days of pacey wingers - Giggsy and Kanchelskis. How about Duff and Giggs?
 
I see 2 problems. Giggs on the right would make him predictable as all defenders wold know he has to cut in-side as he is only 1 footed so he's easier to defend against.

2) with a 3 man defence we could not have Blanc there as he has no pace so Micky and Gaz would spend so much time covering him that our flanks would be wide open. A 3 man defence might work if we had Rio in the middle, RCarlos on the left and Finnan/Carr on the right otherwise we'd be wide open, especially with a non takling Veron in front of it.

Arsenal showed us in highbury that once Keano is bypassed in midfield we didnt have the defence to cope. We need speed, both of thought and recovery.
 
I don't know why people keep on talking about playing 3-5-2 to accomodate all our midfielders. Playing Becks and Giggs as wing-backs are suicidal. Becks is a RM, and Giggs is even a winger. The top priority of the wingbacks are defending, not attacking, playing wingers as wingbacks will expose the 3 defenders, and our already weak defense will leak more goals. Only having great wingbacks can we start playing 3-5-2. R. Carlos, Ziege, Cafu and even Zanetti are the real wingbacks.

We should keep on playing 4-4-2.
 
Giigs would never shine on ethe right. For me I would prefer us getting a drribbling wizard for our right wing like Hassan Sas and turning Blanc and Keano into a partnsership. But that is all wishfull thinking :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by kemo:
<strong>Giigs would never shine on ethe right. For me I would prefer us getting a drribbling wizard for our right wing like Hassan Sas and turning Blanc and Keano into a partnsership. But that is all wishfull thinking :rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>

How about turning Blanc into some sort of a bionic man and by that making him the fastest person alive, then put him as right winger, and use the money we get from selling the ruud clone (oh did I forget to mention we've cloned ruud ?) to antwerp to get nesta and his grandma to be our CB partnership
Just wishfull thinking I guess... <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
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Originally posted by Alexander Wong:
<strong>I don't know why people keep on talking about playing 3-5-2 to accomodate all our midfielders. Playing Becks and Giggs as wing-backs are suicidal. Becks is a RM, and Giggs is even a winger. The top priority of the wingbacks are defending, not attacking, playing wingers as wingbacks will expose the 3 defenders, and our already weak defense will leak more goals. Only having great wingbacks can we start playing 3-5-2. R. Carlos, Ziege, Cafu and even Zanetti are the real wingbacks.

We should keep on playing 4-4-2.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree with that. We must first consider whether we have the players to make that formation work before suggesting a new formation.

Besides, I don't agree midfield is our weakest link. We need to fix our defence and buy a quick and skillful forward first. If after that we still have any money left then we can start to look at the midfield.
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