Stop using common sense, that doesn't work against people who already decided in advance that every goal we concede is Onana's fault.
Andre Onana made another mistake. Ohnono.
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He was going to transform our attacks because of his amazing ability on the ball and his brilliant passes out from the back. This was apparently the key to solving our inability to score goals. Oh look there we are 10th on the table with goals scored. So he is a shite keeper and his distribution really isnt that amazing. This guy makes Taibi look world class
Nonsense
Not sure he should have come for it but on reflection, would have been critcised if he stayed on his line....
Luke Shaw was in the way, if he had have tried to catch it or punch it he'd have collided with Shaw and lost it anyway.
What he should have done was stayed on or close to his line instead of coming for it.
According to you we're the best team in Europe with the best players in every position with none of them capable of making a single mistake. I'd love to live in whatever fantasy land you've pitched up in.
People in the match day thread are even complaining about his saving technique on shots against him that went wide and that he had covered. You can look at any goal in history and find fault in the goalkeeper if you’re so inclined to.
Exactly, he would be blamed no matter what he did in that situation, he can't win for some people. That is why I want him gone, he deserves better.
Not sure its massive and there was an element of luck given the deflection
Actual utd fans still defending this wally. Ridiculous!
It ridiculous, this forum seems to be full of De Gea fans who will blame Onana for every goal because they cant move on from him and accept that he has gone and Onana is now our first choice keeper.
There are a million gobshites on this forum, I couldn't give a feck who quoted me. There is no way he could catch that ball.
I think hes gonna get blamed for every goal as long as hes here.....are people watching other keepers in the league?
More nonsense
Just because Onana is shite, doesn't mean we shouldn't have transitioned to a modern ball playing keeper.
I didnt say that.
Its not nonsence its facts
Nope. DDG needed replacing but this clown isnt good enough.
People think Onana is shite because they are degea fans is a fact?
What nonsense.So, basically people liked the idea of a modern ball playing keeper and Onana seemed to fit that profile.
It was 6 yards out, he'd have scored either way. He'd have been slaughtered if he stayed on his line.
Pretty much this. It's not Onana vs De Gea for me, neither were / are good enough.
People think Onana is shite because they are degea fans is a fact?
It is a fact though, he gets blamed for every goal we conceed.
If we would have signed Allisson or Ederson instead they would get the same stick Onana is getting.
Just feel he'd have had more chance to react to a slower paced header. His decision made Morris' mind up for him.
Exactly.
Fans were right to want to move to a modern, progressive ball playing keeper. Onana being a-bit pants doesn't mean we shouldn't have moved on from DDG.
I feel like when Onana faces close-range shots he completely guesses and doesn't actually attempt to see where the ball is going. He spreads himself randomly and hopes it hits him and either closes his eyes or looks away out of fear of getting hit in the face.
Great goalkeeper would have anticipated the direction and maybe caught it or palmed it out although they might also suffer an injury due to a collision.
Onana did the safe option since united is already leading by 2 nil so he did a starfish save to prolong his career.
Statistically the 5th best goal stopper in the league as of today
Think it was the right call to come for the ball, he just should have come harder and bulldozed everything. If he hadn't come for it the Luton player would just have used his foot instead of his head.
I blame Shaw more for that goal, he lost his man way to easy.
I blame Shaw more for that goal, he lost his man way to easy.
Peter Schmeichel used to do the starfish quite a lot, it’s a 50/50 chance as it makes you bigger against the attempt.
was he not a great goalkeeper?
I wouldn't bother about the goal and if he should come for the ball or not, micro analysing those situations make little sense if a keeper/defense is facing 50 crosses a game.
Would it be a stretch to suggest Onana got us knocked out of the CL?
Not on his own no.
It was really poor goalkeeping, anyone denying that is blind or just didn't watch the game.
Was a looped up deflection so Morris had little chance of getting any power on the header.
1. Could have stayed on his line and had a better chance to save it, more time to react.
2. Could have come out and threw himself toward to ball, punching it or palming it away from Morris' head.
3. Could have got right out kind of like what he did but blocked it with his body had he been fast enough.
In the end he did none if those things and instead chose a weird star jump with the ball going pathetically through the gap under his arm. Really poor.
He's facing a lot of shots and can't be blamed for everything, he is conceding an alarming number of goals though that I feel a lot of other keepers would likely save and his attempts to keep them out go from the awkward to the ridiculous.
Going to need another new keeper unless he improves his judgement drastically if we want to achieve anything.
Was a looped up deflection so Morris had little chance of getting any power on the header.
1. Could have stayed on his line and had a better chance to save it, more time to react.
2. Could have come out and threw himself toward to ball, punching it or palming it away from Morris' head.
3. Could have got right out kind of like what he did but blocked it with his body had he been fast enough.
In the end he did none if those things and instead chose a weird star jump with the ball going pathetically through the gap under his arm. Really poor.
He's facing a lot of shots and can't be blamed for everything, he is conceding an alarming number of goals though that I feel a lot of other keepers would likely save and his attempts to keep them out go from the awkward to the ridiculous.
Going to need another new keeper unless he improves his judgement drastically if we want to achieve anything.
Not to mention how completely and utterly unprotected he's been:
Only the keepers for the two actual dirt worst teams in the league who are nailed on to go straight back down have had to make more saves. He's been playing behind fourth and fifth string defences and one man midfields. If he was half as bad as some of the people in here are saying, we'd have conceded about 60 in the league.
FTFY
As someone who hasn't watched all your games, I can't say I've noticed his distribution being particularly good (or bad).
Just focusing on that side of his game, has the passing from the goalie been a noticeable improvement on De Gea?
Just focusing on that side of his game, has the passing from the goalie been a noticeable improvement on De Gea?
I don't rate him but blaming him for the weekend is madness.
It's marginal. The main difference so far is that Onana does not panic when receiving the ball to his feet and teams seem to respect that a bit more. Opposition rarely bother hard press him into a mistake which means that they stay back to try and block off his passing routes. His distribution has been ok, nothing particularly special; just as likely to make a great progressive pass as he is to knock it to the other team up the pitch.
The play from the back is obviously improved when Martinez and Shaw are fit as they are more comfortable with build up play but I think people have heard enough excuses for Erik.
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