Onana has not worked out. We need a new keeper.

What are you talking about, he was never making that ball before the striker, you realise it was a deflection that completely benefitted the striker?
Stop using common sense, that doesn't work against people who already decided in advance that every goal we concede is Onana's fault.
 
He was going to transform our attacks because of his amazing ability on the ball and his brilliant passes out from the back. This was apparently the key to solving our inability to score goals. Oh look there we are 10th on the table with goals scored. So he is a shite keeper and his distribution really isnt that amazing. This guy makes Taibi look world class
 
Not sure he should have come for it but on reflection, would have been critcised if he stayed on his line....
 
Could've at least made a better challenge for it, it was a rebound but it was high and slow he could have reacted way faster

Luke Shaw was in the way, if he had have tried to catch it or punch it he'd have collided with Shaw and lost it anyway.

What he should have done was stayed on or close to his line instead of coming for it.
 
Stop using common sense, that doesn't work against people who already decided in advance that every goal we concede is Onana's fault.
According to you we're the best team in Europe with the best players in every position with none of them capable of making a single mistake. I'd love to live in whatever fantasy land you've pitched up in.
 
Stop using common sense, that doesn't work against people who already decided in advance that every goal we concede is Onana's fault.

People in the match day thread are even complaining about his saving technique on shots against him that went wide and that he had covered. You can look at any goal in history and find fault in the goalkeeper if you’re so inclined to.
 
Not sure he should have come for it but on reflection, would have been critcised if he stayed on his line....
Exactly, he would be blamed no matter what he did in that situation, he can't win for some people. That is why I want him gone, he deserves better.
 
He should have just stayed on his line. What would Morris have done then, was never going to generate any power once he got his head to it. Massive misjudgement from Onana. Garbage.
Not sure its massive and there was an element of luck given the deflection
 
People in the match day thread are even complaining about his saving technique on shots against him that went wide and that he had covered. You can look at any goal in history and find fault in the goalkeeper if you’re so inclined to.

It ridiculous, this forum seems to be full of De Gea fans who will blame Onana for every goal because they cant move on from him and accept that he has gone and Onana is now our first choice keeper.
 
Yes, I know exactly what I saw. As do all of the other people who quoted you. Go and look in the matchday thread, also. It was horrendous goalkeeping.
There are a million gobshites on this forum, I couldn't give a feck who quoted me. There is no way he could catch that ball.
 
Exactly, he would be blamed no matter what he did in that situation, he can't win for some people. That is why I want him gone, he deserves better.
I think hes gonna get blamed for every goal as long as hes here.....are people watching other keepers in the league?
 
We got hammered by Onana cheering team that Onana was going to transform how we play with his amazing passing from the back. What we actually got was a clown show.

Just because Onana is shite, doesn't mean we shouldn't have transitioned to a modern ball playing keeper.
 
It ridiculous, this forum seems to be full of De Gea fans who will blame Onana for every goal because they cant move on from him and accept that he has gone and Onana is now our first choice keeper.
Nope. DDG needed replacing but this clown isnt good enough.
 
He should have just stayed on his line. What would Morris have done then, was never going to generate any power once he got his head to it. Massive misjudgement from Onana. Garbage.
It was 6 yards out, he'd have scored either way. He'd have been slaughtered if he stayed on his line.
 
It was 6 yards out, he'd have scored either way. He'd have been slaughtered if he stayed on his line.
Just feel he'd have had more chance to react to a slower paced header. His decision made Morris' mind up for him.
 
Pretty much this. It's not Onana vs De Gea for me, neither were / are good enough.

Exactly.

Fans were right to want to move to a modern, progressive ball playing keeper. Onana being a-bit pants doesn't mean we shouldn't have moved on from DDG.
 
I feel like when Onana faces close-range shots he completely guesses and doesn't actually attempt to see where the ball is going. He spreads himself randomly and hopes it hits him and either closes his eyes or looks away out of fear of getting hit in the face.
 
How is that goal his fault?
Great goalkeeper would have anticipated the direction and maybe caught it or palmed it out although they might also suffer an injury due to a collision.

Onana did the safe option since united is already leading by 2 nil so he did a starfish save to prolong his career.
 
Statistically the 5th best goal stopper in the league as of today
 
Think it was the right call to come for the ball, he just should have come harder and bulldozed everything. If he hadn't come for it the Luton player would just have used his foot instead of his head.

I blame Shaw more for that goal, he lost his man way to easy.
 
Great goalkeeper would have anticipated the direction and maybe caught it or palmed it out although they might also suffer an injury due to a collision.

Onana did the safe option since united is already leading by 2 nil so he did a starfish save to prolong his career.

Peter Schmeichel used to do the starfish quite a lot, it’s a 50/50 chance as it makes you bigger against the attempt.

was he not a great goalkeeper?
 
I wouldn't bother about the goal and if he should come for the ball or not, micro analysing those situations make little sense if a keeper/defense is facing 50 crosses a game.
 
It was really poor goalkeeping, anyone denying that is blind or just didn't watch the game.
Was a looped up deflection so Morris had little chance of getting any power on the header.

1. Could have stayed on his line and had a better chance to save it, more time to react.
2. Could have come out and threw himself toward to ball, punching it or palming it away from Morris' head.
3. Could have got right out kind of like what he did but blocked it with his body had he been fast enough.

In the end he did none if those things and instead chose a weird star jump with the ball going pathetically through the gap under his arm. Really poor.

He's facing a lot of shots and can't be blamed for everything, he is conceding an alarming number of goals though that I feel a lot of other keepers would likely save and his attempts to keep them out go from the awkward to the ridiculous.

Going to need another new keeper unless he improves his judgement drastically if we want to achieve anything.
 


Not to mention how completely and utterly unprotected he's been:
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Only the keepers for the two actual dirt worst teams in the league who are nailed on to go straight back down have had to make more saves. He's been playing behind fourth and fifth string defences and one man midfields. If he was half as bad as some of the people in here are saying, we'd have conceded about 60 in the league.
 
As someone who hasn't watched all your games, I can't say I've noticed his distribution being particularly good (or bad).

Just focusing on that side of his game, has the passing from the goalie been a noticeable improvement on De Gea?
 
As someone who hasn't watched all your games, I can't say I've noticed his distribution being particularly good (or bad).

Just focusing on that side of his game, has the passing from the goalie been a noticeable improvement on De Gea?

It's marginal. The main difference so far is that Onana does not panic when receiving the ball to his feet and teams seem to respect that a bit more. Opposition rarely bother hard press him into a mistake which means that they stay back to try and block off his passing routes. His distribution has been ok, nothing particularly special; just as likely to make a great progressive pass as he is to knock it to the other team up the pitch.

The play from the back is obviously improved when Martinez and Shaw are fit as they are more comfortable with build up play but I think people have heard enough excuses for Erik.