Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>It will be a job getting to the final. But if we do, can you imagine the level of support we'll have at Old Trafford?!! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
I've started saving for my ticket already. Nothing will keep me away if United get there. Or WHEN United get there.
Diego Forlan to score a hattrick as Manchester United crush Real Madrid to win their 3rd European Cup and first on home soil.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Knowing the Prawn Sandwich eaters and the faithful at Old Trafford, it'd probably be as quiet as a game against northwich Victoria in the FA Cup Third Round!
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
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I don't think so. Certainly not if Jaap Stam doesn't qualify.
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
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Knowing the Prawn Sandwich eaters and the faithful at Old Trafford, it'd probably be as quiet as a game against northwich Victoria in the FA Cup Third Round!</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was kidding about the hattrick. Hoping too, but mainly kidding.
Originally posted by Donaldinho:
<strong>everyone seems to be complaining of fans and gloryhunters alike being so pessimistic and doubtful all the time so hows this for a refreshing bit of optimism!
Vs
For The European Champions League Cup
Played at Old Trafford!!!!
Ludicrously optimistic,if you ask me.An unconvincing win against an out of form Bayer Leverkusen (and much weakened from last year ...no Ballack or Ze Roberto) and that makes you as good as in the final !?? Don't make me laugh.....If there is to be an english team in the final next May ,it will be my team,Arsenal.
Which if you think about it would be pretty sweet...we won the title at OT in 2002 to be followed by the CL at OT in 2003.Now there's a thought !!
Originally posted by becks75:
<strong>Arsenal ? history of failure in europe. How often have they survived the group stages in recent years.
That's as maybe.......but we are talking about this campaign.All I'm saying is that the sort of wishful thinking displayed in this thread is premature to put it at it's most positive.I'm not saying we will lift the CL,because it's particularly difficult,however good you are,and you also need some luck.Frankly,and as optimistic as I am about our chances,I wouldn't bet against Real.However,if there is an english representative in the final then it's most likely to be us rather than you,because at the moment we are a better team than you.
Originally posted by becks75:
<strong>quote: "because at the moment we are a better team than you"
That´s right for the moment, but let´s see if that´s still the case in spring. Things change quickly in football.
By the way, you were better than us last year too (in the league) but didn`t reach the QF. While we almost reached the final.
But still great game yesterday.
I agree that things can change quickly in football.But there is nothing yet to suggest that you ,as a team ,have improved since last year.
Frankly,your squad is probably weaker than it's been for many years.It lacks the depth you had 3 years ago and even you must admit that the team of 1999 is superior to the one now.Whereas as a Gooner who has been attending matches for over 35 years,this team is by far and away the best Arsenal team i've ever seen.I think we have a chance of not just winning the title again but for the first time really mounting a challenge for the CL.Biased,I might be,but at least the bookmakers agree with me because ,as a man,they all make us a clear second favourite to Real.
Originally posted by mancred:
<strong>Line up for tonight's final against Real:
Barthez
G Neville Rio Larry Escude
Bex Keane Veron Giggs
Scholes
Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Bench: Burdisso, Ronaldinho, O'Shea, P Neville, Ricardo, Forlan, Solskjaer, Silvestre
Cup-tied: Del Piero, Vieira</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> I'd rather go with homegrown players though. Mads Timm makes his senior debut in the cauldron of a European Cup final. He bosses the midfield, embarasses Zidane, and scores a magnificent goal before coming off to a standing ovation.
Great fun to think about, even greater fun if it actually happens
Originally posted by Gillespie:
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Agreed .One swallow doesn't make a summer.But you can't blame me for thinking this year that we have a real chance to do really well in the CL.
You mancs are just not as good as you were...with hindsight 1999 was the height of your success.
Us Gooners do believe we have shifted a balance of power towards Highbury and I think we are most likely this season to hang on to our title and to do better than you in the CL.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't think any United fan would deny you've got the best side in the country..but like u said, you shouldn't get too carried away, it takes time to master Europe, altho' i think you've got a great chance to go quite far in the CL.....
United on the other hand, are still finding their feet, but we've got a great platform to build from.. especially in Europe. (watch RVN bang'em in for fun again
Originally posted by giggzy:
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I don't think any United fan would deny you've got the best side in the country..but like u said, you shouldn't get too carried away, it takes time to master Europe, altho' i think you've got a great chance to go quite far in the CL.....
United on the other hand, are still finding their feet, but we've got a great platform to build from.. especially in Europe. (watch RVN bang'em in for fun again
Thanks for that,though to be honest,I'd reckon there would be quite a few of your fans not yet willing to concede we are the best in the country.
I have to be honest ....I really can't see beyond Real in the CL and I think the Italian sides(Milan,Juventus) could do really well.Man Utd will definitely go through to stage 2 in my opinion from what, you must admit,is a fairly easy group.I think you could go as far as qtr finals but not much beyond that.You know,I've said a couple of times on this site that you mancs just aren't what you were and stated the high point was the 1999 side,expecting a great deal of debate.But no,no one on this site has disputed that,so I guess you agree with me.
As for my team (Arsenal,for those who haven't figured it out)...time will tell.I've seen so much ups and downs over the last 3 decades,that, who knows?In fact,the 'downs' have made the 'ups'
even sweeter (maybe a moral lesson for us all??
Originally posted by Gillespie:
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Thanks for that,though to be honest,I'd reckon there would be quite a few of your fans not yet willing to concede we are the best in the country.
I have to be honest ....I really can't see beyond Real in the CL and I think the Italian sides(Milan,Juventus) could do really well.Man Utd will definitely go through to stage 2 in my opinion from what, you must admit,is a fairly easy group.I think you could go as far as qtr finals but not much beyond that.You know,I've said a couple of times on this site that you mancs just aren't what you were and stated the high point was the 1999 side,expecting a great deal of debate.But no,no one on this site has disputed that,so I guess you agree with me.
As for my team (Arsenal,for those who haven't figured it out)...time will tell.I've seen so much ups and downs over the last 3 decades,that, who knows?In fact,the 'downs' have made the 'ups'
even sweeter (maybe a moral lesson for us all??
The champions are the best in the country aren't they? And they are Arsenal at the moment. TBH, after years of trying to convince disbelieving Liverpool and Arsenal fans that United was the best side in the country, even when we were European champions, I'm quite prepared to concede that Arsenal are the best in the country. At the moment of course. I'm sure lots of United fans have experienced the same.
No one thought we'd even get as far as the semis last year. ("Follow follow follow..."
