Nordic Ghost Yeti (Scandi Carroll) | Haaland at City

Such an ugly cnut. Hope someone decks him.

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How are either of those penalties tonight, absolutely bonkers

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You've also got the whole old Soviet bloc. Chess is extremely popular, but not very Western.

Munch has been mentioned, there's also Ibsen and Grieg. Thor Heyerdahl. All of these should win out, I'd think, though not on Redcafe or among young people. The polar expedition guys as maybes: Roald Amundsen and Fridtjof Nansen. Possibly Sonja Henie and Liv Ullmann. Knut Hamsun. Norwegians like to claim Roald Dahl, but he's a Brit. All of these except Ullmann are dead, and she's 84, so Haaland and probably Ole would crush the youth vote. I don't know who could compete on that front, maybe Kygo or Alan Walker.
Very few non-norwegians, old or young, would know names like Henie, Heyerdahl, Amundsen, Nansen, Ullmann.

Some polar expedition guys doing their stuff from 1880-1920, Henie who was figure skating in the 1920s-30s, Heyerdahl on a balsa raft 75 years ago, Ullman who acted in some Swedish movies in the 60s/70s. Unless you have a very specific interest in one of the topics, you'll be clueless.
 
Very few non-norwegians, old or young, would know names like Henie, Heyerdahl, Amundsen, Nansen, Ullmann.

Some polar expedition guys doing their stuff from 1880-1920, Henie who was figure skating in the 1920s-30s, Heyerdahl on a balsa raft 75 years ago, Ullman who acted in some Swedish movies in the 60s/70s. Unless you have a very specific interest in one of the topics, you'll be clueless.

That's not at all my experience, but I guess I meet strange people. The polar expedition stuff was an extremely big deal, Henie was a movie star, everyone knows about Kon-Tiki, and Liv Ullmann? She worked with and was together with Ingmar Bergman, one of the most important people of all time in the world of film. It's as specific an interest as music or sport.
 
Does tonight kinda address the people who talk about "the goalscorer is only the last person to touch the ball, not necessarily the most important" you can create as many chances as you want but all the key passes, or pre assists or whatever are useless without someone to finish them. And that's why haaland's scoring rate is much more important than whatever other metrics other strikers beat him in
 
I doubt he approaches Messi's all time record of 73 goals in a season but would be fun to see him get to within single digits). 62 could be a great target to end up with the 2nd highest goalscoring peak in the modern era.
 
Does tonight kinda address the people who talk about "the goalscorer is only the last person to touch the ball, not necessarily the most important" you can create as many chances as you want but all the key passes, or pre assists or whatever are useless without someone to finish them. And that's why haaland's scoring rate is much more important than whatever other metrics other strikers beat him in
Bro, can you please not be basic for one day?! The game was won in the first leg.
 
Bro, can you please not be basic for one day?! The game was won in the first leg.

The point still stands, that you can create as much as you want but the goals are far more important than any other metric, you can have a goal without an assist but not vice versa. What does the game being won in the first leg have to do with scoring goals being clearly the most important metric? This game is just an example of that
 
Does tonight kinda address the people who talk about "the goalscorer is only the last person to touch the ball, not necessarily the most important" you can create as many chances as you want but all the key passes, or pre assists or whatever are useless without someone to finish them. And that's why haaland's scoring rate is much more important than whatever other metrics other strikers beat him in

This is very true to be fair. I think people who try to knock him (using statistics other than goals scored per minute) are just sad they don't have him in their squad.
 
The point still stands, that you can create as much as you want but the goals are far more important than any other metric, you can have a goal without an assist but not vice versa. What does the game being won in the first leg have to do with scoring goals being clearly the most important metric? This game is just an example of that
If I have a choice between peak Maradona and Haaland, I'm taking Maradona. You can have Haaland if you want.
 
Does tonight kinda address the people who talk about "the goalscorer is only the last person to touch the ball, not necessarily the most important" you can create as many chances as you want but all the key passes, or pre assists or whatever are useless without someone to finish them. And that's why haaland's scoring rate is much more important than whatever other metrics other strikers beat him in

Theres a huge disparity between Choupo Mouting and Haaland though, I’ll still take Benzema of last season over him though.
 
If I have a choice between peak Maradona and Haaland, I'm taking Maradona. You can have Haaland if you want.

Who talked about haaland vs Maradona, wasn't the discussion about him not creating as much as benzema or lewandowski or suarez or whoever or were those codewords for Maradona, who I don't believe played as a striker and therefore wasn't involved in the comparison that I was talking about
 
Who talked about haaland vs Maradona, wasn't the discussion about him not creating as much as benzema or lewandowski or suarez or whoever or were those codewords for Maradona, who I don't believe played as a striker and therefore wasn't involved in the comparison that I was talking about

You do know Suarez scored 40 goals in 35 La Liga games at his best right?

Haaland might be a better goalscorer, but i wouldn't swap an extra 5-10 goals for all the things Suarez brought to the table outside of scoring goals, dribbling pressing, and creating for others also.
 
You do know Suarez scored 40 goals in 35 La Liga games at his best right?

Haaland might be a better goalscorer, but i wouldn't swap an extra 5-10 goals for all the things Suarez brought to the table outside of scoring goals, dribbling pressing, and creating for others also.

I guess that seems less impressive because no one else has done this in the Premier league, and obviously you had Messi and Ronaldo doing more at the same time, though obviously there's not been players of that calibre in the league.

Plus haaland gets subbed off early in most games, his minute to goal ratio is ridiculous.

The biggest thing for me is that haaland does this in the champions league, the one criticism that was aimed at suarez was champions league, particularly away games. Haaland's at over a goal a game in the champions league. If he just had these impressive domestic stats and didn't perform the same in Europe, it would be less impressive
 
The point still stands, that you can create as much as you want but the goals are far more important than any other metric, you can have a goal without an assist but not vice versa. What does the game being won in the first leg have to do with scoring goals being clearly the most important metric? This game is just an example of that
And thats why Haaland is the player every top club wish they had right now.
 
He doesn't understand football. So take it easy on him.
Its a forum. Opinions very. "he doesnt know football" and "you probably never played football"

If you guys have such a high footballing iq you should know even greats like you guys can be wrong from time to time.

Also a bunch of footballers vary opinions. It has nothing to do with if you know or have played football.
 
I doubt he approaches Messi's all time record of 73 goals in a season but would be fun to see him get to within single digits). 62 could be a great target to end up with the 2nd highest goalscoring peak in the modern era.

I mean from a stats point fo view the only reason he isn't is because he has played much less minutes.

Haalands goals per minute ratio is better than Messis 73 goal season.

Hell even when we start to consider assists in that as well it's surprising that Messi is only a few minutes per G+A better.

It's the reason I consider Haaland should win the Balon Dor.

His numbers compete with peak Messi.
 
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Who talked about haaland vs Maradona, wasn't the discussion about him not creating as much as benzema or lewandowski or suarez or whoever or were those codewords for Maradona, who I don't believe played as a striker and therefore wasn't involved in the comparison that I was talking about
I never compared him to any of those players, I've seen an Mbappe comparison and that's it. I brought up Maradona (works just as well with Zidane or Cruyff or numerous other greats) because of this whole insane point you made about 'it doesn't matter how many chances you create if someone doesn't put the ball in the back of the net, therefore the goal poacher is automatically always the most important person on the pitch, QED :wenger: ' and claimed this game as evidence when it is a tie that City won 4-1 with EH scoring the 3 and 4th goals of the tie. So basically they would have won even if he hadn't scored. I just don't get how people can't see that everything in football matches is connected?

Why can't it just be that Haaland scored a really good goal, is an awesome player and leave it at that? Why the nonsense? I don't get it.
 
It's kind of mad that he's put himself in a position now where you expect him to score 2 a game and if he doesn't it is a below par performance.
 
I think its scary that he will most likely improve and by some margin in his career. He already scoring at the rate of peak Messi in the PL.
 
It's kind of mad that he's put himself in a position now where you expect him to score 2 a game and if he doesn't it is a below par performance.

Its even better when Redcafe goes out of their way to point out all the other strikers they would much rather have at United than Haaland
 
I value a goal scorer over anyone else.

I used to get asked a question- is a defender better footballer than a striker?

No a striker is a better footballer than a defender because a clean sheet doesn’t win you matches, goals do.
 
I value a goal scorer over anyone else.

I used to get asked a question- is a defender better footballer than a striker?

No a striker is a better footballer than a defender because a clean sheet doesn’t win you matches, goals do.
Welbeck > Baresi, you heard it here first.