NO 4-5-1

ah_new

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i think every one know that one of the reason we lose in last season is because of 4-5-1.
i hope sir ferguson should NOT TRY 4-5-1 anymore,
we can try 3-5-2! here is my first team for 3-5-2:
def: blanc, ferdi, silve
mid: beckham, scholes, keane, veron, giggs
for: RVN, ole

p/s:SORRY for my broken english.
 
Originally posted by ah_new:
<strong>i think every one know that one of the reason we lose in last season is because of 4-5-1.</strong><hr></blockquote>


we lost 9 games last season, in 7 of those we started with 4-4-2.

Canb you explain to me, how 4-5-1 can be responsible for us loosing the league when we lost 7 games playing 4-4-2?
 
lchk could have easily told you that... we needed four quality defenders and a couple of wingers. Plus a few decent assistant coaches. Plus Blanc is crap. ;)
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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we lost 9 games last season, in 7 of those we started with 4-4-2.

Canb you explain to me, how 4-5-1 can be responsible for us loosing the league when we lost 7 games playing 4-4-2?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Murt, aren't you being a bit selective with the facts.

I think we should master 4-5-1 because we need to be flexible but it didn't come that easy to us last season -

LIVERPOOL (CS) Lost
FULHAM - struggled, conceded 2
BLACKBURN - ditto
VILLA - struggled, got a point after changing system
EVERTON - Cole/Yorke up front, and won comfortably.
NEWCASTLE - Scored four with two strikers - a defeat, but very poor defensively
LILLE - struggled
IPSWICH - two strikers, 4-0 win
DEPORTIVO - defeat
SPURS - 3-0 down at half time! Game changed by Fergie's own admission when OGS came on
OLYMPIAKOS - goal scored by sub. Cole
LEEDS - Losing, till reversion to 4-4-2, when we had so many chances we could have won the game.
LILLE - 4-4-2 draw
LIVERPOOL - awful 4-4-2 defeat, and first real pairing of OGS and Ruud.
LEICESTER - 4-4-2 win
BAYERN - good away performance, proving that it is handy to have a different system
ARSENAL - 4-5-1 defeat
CHELSEA - 4-4-2 defeat (By this time, I don't think the players themselves knew what they were supposed to be doing)
BOA VISTA - 4-4-2 win
WEST HAM - 4-4-2 defeat
DERBY - excellent 4-4-2 win
BORO - 4-4-2 win
SOTON - 4-4-2 win
EVERTON - 4-4-2 win
FULHAM - 4-4-2 win with Giggs in a striker's role
NEWCASTLE - excellent 4-4-2 win
VILLA - losing the game till we changed to 4-4-2
SOUTHAMPTON - 4-4-2 win
BLACKBURN - 4-4-2 win
LIVERPOOL - back to 4-5-1, and look what happened

I can't be arsed to go thru the rest of the games, but you can't say that 4-4-2 lost us the league.

We need to be good at both.
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Murt, aren't you being a bit selective with the facts.
I can't be arsed to go thru the rest of the games, but you can't say that 4-4-2 lost us the league.
We need to be good at both.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I never said 442 lost us the league, but to say 451 did is ridiculous due to the fact that we only lost twice with it. We lost the league imo because all but 2 of our players played below par for most of the season and id have to agree with Keane and say it was the hunger that was gone.
Its the players that have to start performing, not the tactics.
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>lchk could have easily told you that... we needed four quality defenders and a couple of wingers. Plus a few decent assistant coaches. Plus Blanc is crap. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Shuddup you cnut <a href="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/" target="_blank">http://www.plauder-smilies.de/</a>


;)
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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We lost the league imo because all but 2 of our players played below par for most of the season and id have to agree with Keane and say it was the hunger that was gone.
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Well Keane, OGS and Ruud didn't underperform. There's three for a start.

And Scholes was below his best because he was being asked to play in a role he wasn't comfortable with. Whether he should have been able to do it is another issue - he wasn't comfortable with it and that's why he "under-performed". I wouldn't accuse Scholes of a lack of hunger. Or Butt who had a good season. And it seems be the popular opinion that Blanc came good in the end.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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Shuddup you cnut <a href="http://www.plauder-smilies.de/" target="_blank">http://www.plauder-smilies.de/</a>
;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

yeah gazza, shut up, we all know that that was just a knee jerk rxn. A very slow rxn lasting several months, a good long honest to god knee jerk.
;)
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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yeah gazza, shut up, we all know that that was just a knee jerk rxn. A very slow rxn lasting several months, a good long honest to god knee jerk.
;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

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