For me, new stadium. We have to be practical. It will cost more in the long run if we keep the old stadium. In addition to that we have to keep up with the new technologies.
New Stadium or Revamp Old Trafford | Aim is to build 100k seater stadium
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
I’m not taking a jab at anyone, I have to now trek from London for games and because I have two small children, can only make it 3-4 times a year (so it could be said I am “daytripper” myself. I 100% understand the huge effort that is made by thousands of fans that travel from Ireland, Scandinavia and other distances which costs a small fortune. My point it, the club and its accountants want a stadium which will generate the most money per match day and that requires a large number of supporters who will utilise the facilties, club shop and all the bells and whistles.
Sorry that didn’t read very well. I meant that any likely renovation to the current stadium would likely be so significant, that it would essentially be a rebuild (£1.5bn is being banded around). Whereas building a “new” stadium literally adjacent would be far more cost effective. Not cheaper, but cost effective as building from scratch rather than a full renovation is easier. I hope that makes more sense?
Feels like the stadium we'd have built in 1990s if we decided on a new stadium back thenAI on the ball.
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A new stadium does seem the most sensible choice.
However I do fear modern architecture. I am so tired of seeing glass and steel monstrosities everywhere I go (goes for stadiums and just buildings in general really).
The dream would be a new stadium, but taking inspiration from the past, using bricks as much as possible.
Though I am neither a builder nor architect, so not sure how feasible or cost effective (shudders) that would be.
On a sidenote - anyone know what the expected life-spans of these modern type glass/steel stadiums are? My gut tells me that it's shorter than stone.
However I do fear modern architecture. I am so tired of seeing glass and steel monstrosities everywhere I go (goes for stadiums and just buildings in general really).
The dream would be a new stadium, but taking inspiration from the past, using bricks as much as possible.
Though I am neither a builder nor architect, so not sure how feasible or cost effective (shudders) that would be.
On a sidenote - anyone know what the expected life-spans of these modern type glass/steel stadiums are? My gut tells me that it's shorter than stone.
I thought the bricks thing too, then someone, Spoons I think, pointed out that the local area doesn't have lots of old brick buildings anymore. So a fake one might look well out of place. I don't know now, I'd love to see some different preliminary designs to compare.
Looking at google maps, seems a lot of the newer buildings and larger buildings have been glass-and-steelified already. But there seem to still be a fair bit few old rows of brick houses.
Could be a way to fight the tide? (the romantic in me I guess).
The area strikes me as perfect for a recreational area - a river-walk with food stands, green park area, etc.
My big fear would probably be(especially since Jim seems very taken by the American style stadiums) that we will get a soulless shopping complex.
There is red brick houses surrounding Old Trafford. And throughout Manchester.
Not quite surrounding, but I know what you mean. Now look at the larger buildings of Salford Quays, stunning architecture, a totally different world to not that long ago really. And I think when the marshalling yards and the associated warehouses go they won't be replaced by little houses whatever happens to the stadium.
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They could use bricks but you'd need more bricks throughout the new district. I suspect if Foster's got anything to do with I doubt he'll use bricks. Besides I don't think they'll use Victoria Warehouse has inspiration for a new stadium and surrounding area. Who knows though eh. Anyway looks like they'll probably start building a new stadium this year on the carcpark and eventually on the freight depot when they buy it. Ratcliffe wants it fast tracked.
They could use bricks but you'd need more bricks throughout the new district. I suspect if Foster's got anything to do with I doubt he'll use bricks. Besides I don't think they'll use Victoria Warehouse has inspiration for a new stadium and surrounding area. Who knows though eh. Anyway looks like they'll probably start building a new stadium this year on the carcpark and eventually on the freight depot when they buy it. Ratcliffe wants it fast tracked.
If the club sold decent booze and food, many fans would probably get there earlier and spend more money.
It's always confused me, in its quest to make more money, the club seemingly focuses on everyone other than the "ordinary" fans.
Hopefully.
Yes I get what you're saying now mate. Though Real have shown what a significant renovation can achieve, Barcelona are going down the same route.
Ultimately I think Ineos and Ratcliffe want a new stadium and that's what will eventually happen regardless of what the fans think.
Everton's new place is a good mixture of brick and metal/glass. It can be done if the will is there. Let's not forget architects love to be different though, make a statement and leave a legacy. I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a 'WTF is that' design, especially as it's going to be the focus of the regenerated area.
I also don't see why people think ticket prices will rocket in a new build but presumably not in a renovated OT, a rebuild that will be a new build in all but name, especially when it would mean reduced capacity for a few years while each stand is replaced. Prices will rise no matter what happens.
I also don't see why people think ticket prices will rocket in a new build but presumably not in a renovated OT, a rebuild that will be a new build in all but name, especially when it would mean reduced capacity for a few years while each stand is replaced. Prices will rise no matter what happens.
This best stadium in the world might be used for championship games at the rate we are going.
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Bricks? Nah, way too old and tacky for a modern stadium.
I’d love a new stadium, but all of the very clear signs are that we don’t have anything like the resources to deliver anything other than a ‘lick and stick’ on the existing stadium. Ratcliffe is economising left right and centre, staff are being sacked, club greats are being marginalised to save costs, we constantly hear that we have to sell players before we can buy etc. Then, in the next breath, they are talking about a £2billion stadium. It feels like propaganda to keep the rank and file in place. Let’s get the roof properly fixed - that would be a start.
Deepdale, Preston North End's ground, is 150 years old today, the oldest continuously-used league ground in the world.