New GK or Valdes + an extra outfield player

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I've read somewhere that van gaal prefers giving valdes a chance and spending money on an outfield player instead of spending on a new GK.

We're going into this summer looking at least for a couple of defenders, a midfielder or hopefully 2, a striker and we've already signed depay, nobody is coming on the cheap, and it's not realistic to expect the club to spend 150m+ every summer.

The more i think about it the more it makes sense, valdes is a top keeper and i don't see the harm in giving him a chance, if it works well, great, if it doesn't, new goal keeper next summer.

A poll would be highly appreciated @Niall.
 
Complete bollocks story. Van Gaal said he signed Valdes because of Lindegaard, the latter doesn't fit the profile in his eyes. If de Gea leaves he will be replaced, wether that is with a starting goalkeeper or a talented backup I don't know but I give it a 0% chance that we won't sign a new keeper. We won't go into the new season with only 1 goalkeeper.
 
I don't have a problem giving Valdes a chance and buying more quality for the outfield. A couple of great CB's and the need for DDG and his spectacular saves dwindles.
 
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Complete bollocks story. Van Gaal said he signed Valdes because of Lindegaard, the latter doesn't fit the profile in his eyes. If de Gea leaves he will be replaced, wether that is with a starting goalkeeper or a talented backup I don't know but I give it a 0% chance that we won't sign a new keeper. We won't go into the new season with only 1 goalkeeper.
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Signing a back up for valdes is hardly replacing de gea, and it certainly won't be costly at all.
 
It depends. If we invest in a quality defender then that'd be just as worthwhile. I've never been a fan of Valdes but he can do a reasonable job and certainly we need investment in other areas more. It's only worth spending the money if we are replacing the quality DDG brought and frankly that's hard to find and certainly won't be expensive.

Of course DDG isn't gone yet though (muppet hat on).
 
I'm ok to give Valdes a chance, surely LVG has had opportunity to cast his eye over him, I think the long term solution is more important. If spurs want to rape us again in the transfer market, I'm more open to waiting for the right long term replacement rather than getting butt decked again by Levy.
 
I understand that Lindegaard for some reason doesn't tick the boxes, though why not I couldn't say he seems more than adequate as a keeper everytime I have seen him.

What get's me is that there are very few keepers that ever reach the dizzy heights, Neuer in this generation is miles ahead, as Schmeichel was, Cech was another when he was at his best, and I am not just on about good shot stopping like DeGea has but all around, crosses, set pieces, control of the area, organising defences, DeGea is a cut above because of his shot stopping but other than that has numerous weaknesses that unless addressed will in my mind prevent him from ever reaching that sort of level.

Valdes, Lindegaard and about every other keeper in the top leagues are all within a much of a muchness, IMO there just isn't that much GREAT talent out there, players like Loris and Courtois get bigged up but they are just above average and not great!

I would rather spend £10m< on a good prospect and let Valdes and Lindegaard have a run at it, it's not like they are going to be a disaster, they might just not set the world on fire! put the rest of the money on a captain of the defence! somebody to protect the goal, organise the back line and mean that we are not relying on last gasp saves and man of the match goalie performances every other game!
 
Won't be that bothered if we end up giving Valdes a shot. At his best he was certainly more than good enough for us given he was a fixture for arguably the greatest club team of all time. He also very definitely fits what LVG wants from a GK, which is nice. The only issue is how he handles the PL....

I mean if the alternative to Valdes issue to watch Woodward v Levy for Lloris then....

Ideally though we'd secure a better candidate than Valdes if one is available. Not sure who though.
 
Valdes + an outfield player. It's a win-win for me, b/c I really rate Valdes and still think he's a top keeper.
 
We should still be able to get a good goalkeeper for the amount we get for De Gea. I'd imagine Real will Real and we'll settle for 25-30 million Euros. That should be enough for us to get another De Gea type like Leno or Oblak. Valdes will need a settling in period and if we're going to afford our goalkeeper a settling in period I'd rather do it for someone who's not in his 30's.
 
It's Valdes + an outfield player, for me. We can purchase a young goalkeeper or maybe Van gaal likes Johnstone.
 
Someone said:
I've read somewhere that van gaal prefers giving valdes a chance and spending money on an outfield player instead of spending on a new GK.

We're going into this summer looking at least for a couple of defenders, a midfielder or hopefully 2, a striker and we've already signed depay, nobody is coming on the cheap, and it's not realistic to expect the club to spend 150m+ every summer.

The more i think about it the more it makes sense, valdes is a top keeper and i don't see the harm in giving him a chance, if it works well, great, if it doesn't, new goal keeper next summer.

A poll would be highly appreciated @Niall.
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Oh that makes it simple

Lets just forget about the shitload of goals we'll concede if he is not up to the task.

You are talking about GK here, I don't know if you noticed how instrumental DDG has been in our season but if not for his saves game in game out we wouldn't be anywhere close to the top 4. If Valdes is not the right guy we'll have a very very hard season in front of us. There are certain teams that can get away with average goalkeeping, we are not one of them atm.

That being said with Cech gone I can't immediatly think of somebody that would slot right in and make us forget Dave.

I'd like us to give Valdes a chance but I'd also like us to bring in another keeper to have some competition for him. I think we should go for someone who won't cost the earth, is young and has alot of potential and highly motivated. That young GK could grow learn a thing or two from Valdes and keep Valdes on his guard as competition.

As a club brugge fan I must share his name Matthew Ryan, the australian national goalkeeper. Been voted keeper of the year two times now in Belgium and having seen him play all games over the last 2 years, he is such a great goalkeeper. Has all the things Van Gaal is looking for in a GK, catlike reflexes and great shot stopper but he is also fanstatic with his feet and his throws. He came from the australian league 2 seasons ago and he has grown into an amazing player. He has outgrown the Belgian league and ready for a step up altough he might also stay at Club Brugge (but I'am sure if United wanted him he'd come without a shred of doubt and he won't cost much more than £8m-£10m tops. He is 23 years old at the moment. (also a hidden fifa gem, bought him for 7.5m and became a 80+ goalkeeper after one season that I sold for 35m to Dortmund)



Also this vdieo was from this year his best game in the Europe League vs Fc Torino literaly kept Club Brugge alive with 5 or 6 unbelievable saves.

http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/videozone/sporten/voetbal/EuropaLeague/1.2162454
 
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Valdes is no Bosnich, but I do fear for him with the Stoke boys flying into him on a wet Wednesday night.
 
Im fine with Valdes being our #1, and us going for a younger understudy. Someone built the size of Neuer would be ideal.

I love Dave but I wish he had more of a presence at times.
 
said before I would not have a problem with Valdes has our No1 next season or even for 2 season.
He may be rusty but come the start of the season I think he will be ready and more than able to handle the pressure of the PL.
 
New GK. The concerns of a goalkeeper playing his first full season in over two years in a brand new, far more physical league are too risky.
 
Someone said:
I've read somewhere that van gaal prefers giving valdes a chance and spending money on an outfield player instead of spending on a new GK.

We're going into this summer looking at least for a couple of defenders, a midfielder or hopefully 2, a striker and we've already signed depay, nobody is coming on the cheap, and it's not realistic to expect the club to spend 150m+ every summer.

The more i think about it the more it makes sense, valdes is a top keeper and i don't see the harm in giving him a chance, if it works well, great, if it doesn't, new goal keeper next summer.

A poll would be highly appreciated @Niall.
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The goalkeeper question has been given a couple of polls already, featured on the homepage, so I think we don't need another.
 
I know it could look biased but wonder where will Vanja be on progress table in few years,also the fact he is joining this summer,wonder will he be loaned somewhere or kept in reserves.
 
The decline continues, United lose their world class players due to transfers, age, retirement and we replace them with lesser players. Afterwards we wonder why we arent a top3 club of the world anymore. For one time, lets replace a key player properly.
 
Sammyjunn said:
The decline continues, United lose their world class players due to transfers, age, retirement and we replace them with lesser players. Afterwards we wonder why we arent a top3 club of the world anymore. For one time, lets replace a key player properly.
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You know is going to be horrible if we are stuck with a three time European Cup winner in goal. Do you really think an elite club like Barca would put up with a GK like Valdes?
 
I've always been open to give Valdes a chance for next season. He should his shot stopping prowess in his appearances for us, albeit looking a bit dodgy with the high ball. Hopefully that was just rust though.

His experience would be great.
 
Did an incompetent goalie ever kept United away from winning a title ? (flashbacks to Caroll and Barthez). However, the necessity for an established defense is quite important in this point of time.
 
Valdes was a top-5 goalkeeper in the world 18 months ago. It would be foolish not to give him a chance. I don't want us to buy a goalkeeper.
 
LazyRed-Ninja said:
Did an incompetent goalie ever kept United away from winning a title ? (flashbacks to Caroll and Barthez). However, the necessity for an established defense is quite important in this point of time.
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It is reassuring to know that Valdes is an incompetent goalie. Let's hope our defense becomes better than last season because without a competent goalie in De Gea, we would have lost our champion league place.

I also do not have that much faith in Valdes to be honest. But, he honestly can not be that bad..
 
Jev said:
Valdes was a top-5 goalkeeper in the world 18 months ago. It would be foolish not to give him a chance. I don't want us to buy a goalkeeper.
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Yeah pretty much this. I think he's still good enough and have no worries in him taking the mantle when De Gea goes.
 
Someone said:
I've read somewhere that van gaal prefers giving valdes a chance and spending money on an outfield player instead of spending on a new GK.

We're going into this summer looking at least for a couple of defenders, a midfielder or hopefully 2, a striker and we've already signed depay, nobody is coming on the cheap, and it's not realistic to expect the club to spend 150m+ every summer.

The more i think about it the more it makes sense, valdes is a top keeper and i don't see the harm in giving him a chance, if it works well, great, if it doesn't, new goal keeper next summer.

A poll would be highly appreciated @Niall.
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Gives away the plot of this thread in first three words.
 
Well, we need a GK sooner or later, because Valdes is 33 and I am not convinced that he has VDS's qualities to play at a very high level until he retires.

I think Valdes would be good enough for now, if we can get him to play at the level he played before the injury, so I see no point of buying someone just for the sake of it. And I am not sure there are any options worth considering, maybe Lloris, but he needs to step up a level and we will get raped by Levy in the negotiations.

So, I would say it's better to keep Valdes and scout the market until someone good enough becomes available.
 
I never rated Valdes, he is a good back-up keeper, but not good enough for United. He was good at Barca who played possesion football and had a decent defense in front of him. But in the Premier league, with or defense in not so great shape...

The problem is, there is no one to replace DDG. Neuer, Courtois Andre Ter-Stegen are all in big clubs, who are not likely to sell them. I would try to get Ter-Stegen from Barca, given that he was not #1 in La Liga... I rate him very highly. Other than him, Lloris is good but level below DDG. Bernd Leno might become a great keeper, but I don't think he will be in the same league as Neuer, Courtois or DDG.. Jan Oblak is inexperienced... That is one of the reasons why I think United should tell Real to stick it up their arse and keep DDG until next summer, even if it means loosing him for free.
 
Think we'd be in big trouble going into the season with valdes as our first choice goalkeeper, especially with the defense in the state it's in currently. Regardless of if we sign a world class cb and rb, I believe a goalkeeper to replace DDG is imperative. Valdes will struggle in the league, we can maybe use him for Cl games but in the EPL we need someone else.
 
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