NBA Draft Matchup 2 | MJJ vs. Revan

Who wins?


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MJJ: Garnett, Durant, Allen, Westbrook, Wallace, Rodman, Billups, Bosh, Mullins, A.Robertson

Revan: Kobe, Kidd, Gasol, Mutombo, George, Artest, Yao, Stoudemire, Crawford, Bibby

@Damien poll please.

Start debating with who your starting five and bench are, individual matchups, overall strength of your team, how many minutes your players are going to play etc.

- regarding your offensive & defensive strategy
- a short description of your players: style of play, stats, awards, trophies, quotes...
- why each manager thinks he should win
- Gifs or Youtube videos are the welcome
- facts that enable the voter to visualize the 1 vs 1 battles
- the potential complementarity of the players

 
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Starting team: Kidd, Kobe, World-Peace, Gasol, Mutombo
Bench: Bibby, Crawford, George, Stoudemire, Ming

Attack:

No question here, my attack is completely based around Ser Kobe of House Bryant. He is - in my opinion - the best player on the NBA since Jordan. At his peak, he was unstoppable, and could harm the other teams more than any player in this draft. His average score (peak, be it top season or top 3 season, you choose) is significantly higher than that of any other player in the draft. And of course, he won 5 rings playing, so he was very good when it mattered most. Sure, he has a reputation for being selfish and not passing the ball, but the truth is a bit more complex than that. He is one of the best No.2 in NBA when LA won the first two titles with him and Shaq, so he was definitely able to pass. He just chose to shoot, cause there wasn't a better player to do so.

Leaving Kobe aside, I think that my team has more firepower than it looks first. On Jason Kidd, I have simply the best playmaker on this draft (Stockton at his peak was better, but Stockton was a bit past his peak since '95, Curry will be considered better in a few years if he continues like this, which IMO, he will) and an assist machine. He could find players better than anyone in the history of the game bar Magic, and the peak Stockton. And he wasn't that bad at shooting. At his best season he averaged 15-18 points per match. He wasn't very efficient at it for the first half of his career, but improved later. On this team though, he is charged to pass the ball more than to shoot it.

Ron Artest was a brilliant player, and while he is known more for his defense (see later), he was also a good scorer. He was able to score 20 points when the team was built around him, and be a solid performer when he was a supporting player. Him winning a title with Kobe helps, cause it shows that he knows how to play with my main man.

Pau Gasol is my favorite player of all time. But I didn't choose him just for that. I chose him instead cause he was (and still is) a fecking good player. He is selfless, he can score from every position, he can pass the ball better than most players, he is extremely athletic for a man his size, and as important, he has telepathic relationship with Kobe. In my opinion he is one of the best No.2 in recent history (together with Pippen, Kobe during the first few Shaq years and Wayde). He knows what Kobe wants, and he knows how to make Kobe play better. The final player on my team (Dikembe Mutombo) is there for defensive reasons, but still he can score 10 points without a problem.

Defense:

Attacks win matches, defenses win rings. And I have the best defense someone can imagine. Kidd is the best defensive point guard of all time (only point guard who is on top 50 for rebounds). He made rebounds like a center, but he also stole balls as good as anyone. An ancient Kidd gave defensive lectures to Dwayne Wayde and Lebron James at their peaks, when it matters most. Can he stop a kid like Westbrook? With his eyes closed and hands ties. And of course, he is a 9 times all NBA defensive team.



Kobe Bryant is obviously a fantastic defender. He didn't got 12 all defensive teams for free (more than any player on the history bar Duncan and joint with Garnett). So, I don't only have the best shooting guard in attack, but also in defense. And do I need to start talking about the defense of Ron Artest?! He's a fecking beast at it, which is why I am putting him on the first lineup. I want him to make the life miserable for MJJ's best player. And if anyone can do it, that is Ron Artest. If he gets tired, no problem. Paul George is a very good defender too, and he can do more damage in attack, which will continue tiring Durant.

Gasol is a good, though not spectacular defender. He's a double double machine though, so he can give a lot of rebounds and all round contribution. But then, near to him I have arguably the best defensive player in the history of the game. One of the two guys who got 4 times the NBA best defensive player award. A beast who can block everything near him (as long as it isn't a pissed off Jordan). Enjoy:



All in all (just in my first team), I have 31 all defensive teams awards, in addition to 5 best defensive player of the year awards. Not that bad! This team is the equivalent of Capello's Milano when it comes to defense.
 
The bench:

I have a very strong bench. Paul George is my ace there, and he will play a lot. The reason why I started with Artest instead is cause Artest is a better defender, but George is competent on it too, and he scores a lot, with a very high accuracy. He doesn't lose many balls, and he can really make Durant struggle, especially after Durant has to suffer against Artest. George and Artest will share the role here, and so I don't have much problems in making many fouls. If Artest is on danger to getting sent off, the life won't become easier for Durant.

Bibby is a very good point guard as he shown when he was on a mission to stop Lakers supremacy. While he won't play that much, he is as good replacement for Kidd as I could have think off (Calderon was a choice too, but then it would have essentially been a mini-Kidd so I wanted something different). And Jamal Crawford was chosen twice as the best 6th man in NBA. He won't be the sixth man in my team, and his minutes will be limited, but he can do a good job when Kobe needs a quick rest. Stoudemire at his peak was a very good player, and can cover for Gasol and share this position. Additionally, he can play together with Gasol, if I need more firepower. And finally, I have Yao who will substitute Mutombo at times, and would actually play more if Kobe is having problems scoring (Yao is my best scoring center). He has shown that he can play very well with a player who has a very similar style to Kobe (McGrady), bith in attack and defense. My bench is very strong on attacking sense (really strong, maybe as good as the first team considering that at their peaks only Crawford doesn't outscore the starter), so if I am having problems scoring, the problem will get solved. But I doubt there is a need for that, MJJ will really struggle to score.

Why I should win?

Because I have a fantastic defense which can relatively easy neutralize MJJ's attack.
Because I have grown men who know how to win, instead of selfish children like Durant and especially Westbrook.
Because my top players have actually won rings, while MJJ's top players are specialists in failure (really, has there ever been a team who had two top 5 players in NBA but who refused to win titles and lost even when they were leading 3-1).
And because MJJ has Rusell Westbrook on his team. If Westbrook plays, MJJ loses. And if Westbrook doesn't play, then MJJ's third best player (after Durant and Garnett) doesn't play.
And because I have Kobe Bryant. Try to stop that:



Who's going to stop that? Allen? Give me a break!
 
Looks like @MJJ isn't around so I'll fill in a little for him. Don't expect me to take it so seriously though.

Our starting lineup is:
Center - Wallace
PF - Garnett
SF - Durant
PG - Westbrook
SG - Allen

Mutumbo > Wallace
Gasol < Garnett
Artest < Durant
Kidd > Westbrook
Kobe > Allen

So advantage Revan for me.
 
Looks like @MJJ isn't around so I'll fill in a little for him. Don't expect me to take it so seriously though.

Our starting lineup is:
Center - Wallace
PF - Garnett
SF - Durant
PG - Westbrook
SG - Allen

Mutumbo > Wallace
Gasol < Garnett
Artest < Durant
Kidd > Westbrook
Kobe > Allen

So advantage Revan for me.

fecking Traitor.

This is how you do it.

Wallace>>>Mutumbo
Garnett>>>>Gasol
Durant>>>>>Artest
Westbrook>>>>>>Kidd
Allen=Kobe