Music and politics

Laphroaig

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How do you deal with music that's obviously politically retarded?

I love a lot of music that's morally repulsive. One example is Storm, to me as catchy as it gets. Another one is Charles Manson. (I could post a bunch of other absolutely retarded musicians, like Burzum and Boyd Rice.)

But how do YOU cope with this? I'm sure I'm not the only one who like good music made by poor humans.
 
How do you deal with music that's obviously politically retarded?

I love a lot of music that's morally repulsive. One example is Storm, to me as catchy as it gets. Another one is Charles Manson. (I could post a bunch of other absolutely retarded musicians, like Burzum and Boyd Rice.)

But how do YOU cope with this? I'm sure I'm not the only one who like good music made by poor humans.

If you think that song is catchy you spend too much time dressed as a Norwegian Viking with stein in your hand having gay sex with your brother.
 
Congratulations for being too prejudiced to participate in the discussion of the announced topic.

Where's the face with the rolling eyes?
 
I only consider commenting on topics when I'm NOT sober.

He likes 182? He should be banned from this sub-forum then, surely.
 
I only consider commenting on topics when I'm NOT sober.

He liked 182? He should be banned from this sub-forum then, surely.

So i don't mind a bit of pop rock. Im not prejudice... i just know terrible music when i hear it... and that is terrible music.

As far as the topic goes if im hearing something i strongly don't agree with, i won't listen to it.
 
But Blink 182 are disagreeaably stupid. So are Storm.

I enjoy listening to blink 182's stupidity. Even in their stupidity they manage harmonies and some good musical moments. Their self titled album was great.

Its not like in their stupidity they are trying to force an agenda on me.
 
Music and politics are mostly an atomic combination. There are instances in which it's worked, Marvin Gaye being the most notable. But they are few and far between. It's the 'entitlement of enlightened artists' syndrome. It's why I hate actors.
 
I wrote that even before reading your post.
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Dou you consider Gaye's dope induced ramblings as "political"? He was a very contentless hippie who happened to make great music. That is all.
 
Go listen to 'What's Going On'. Not the song. The entire album in its entirety. After you've done that one little task absolutely necessary to know anything about Marvin Gaye, then come back and try to talk to me about him and his 'hippie ramblings'.
 
That's an absolutely stunning album. It's not political in any significant or intelligent way though. It's hippie stupidity at it's worst.

If you consider that piece of music to be political, then you very obviously have no idea.
 
Here's a pretty standard review I just dug up...

What's Going On is not only Marvin Gaye's masterpiece, it's the most important and passionate record to come out of soul music, delivered by one of its finest voices, a man finally free to speak his mind and so move from R&B sex symbol to true recording artist. With What's Going On, Gaye meditated on what had happened to the American dream of the past — as it related to urban decay, environmental woes, military turbulence, police brutality, unemployment, and poverty. These feelings had been bubbling up between 1967 and 1970, during which he felt increasingly caged by Motown's behind-the-times hit machine and restrained from expressing himself seriously through his music. Finally, late in 1970, Gaye decided to record a song that the Four Tops' Obie Benson had brought him, "What's Going On." When Berry Gordy decided not to issue the single, deeming it uncommercial, Gaye refused to record any more material until he relented. Confirmed by its tremendous commercial success in January 1971, he recorded the rest of the album over ten days in March, and Motown released it in late May. Besides cementing Marvin Gaye as one of the most important artists in pop music, What's Going On was far and away the best full-length to issue from the singles-dominated Motown factory, and arguably the best soul album of all time.

Conceived as a statement from the viewpoint of a Vietnam veteran (Gaye's brother Frankie had returned from a three-year hitch in 1967), What's Going On isn't just the question of a baffled soldier returning home to a strange place, but a promise that listeners would be informed by what they heard (that missing question mark in the title certainly wasn't a typo). Instead of releasing listeners from their troubles, as so many of his singles had in the past, Gaye used the album to reflect on the climate of the early '70s, rife with civil unrest, drug abuse, abandoned children, and the spectre of riots in the near past. Alternately depressed and hopeful, angry and jubilant, Gaye saved the most sublime, deeply inspired performances of his career for "Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)," "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)," and "Save the Children." The songs and performances, however, furnished only half of a revolution; little could've been accomplished with the Motown sound of previous Marvin Gaye hits like "Stubborn Kind of Fellow" and "Hitch Hike" or even "I Heard It Through the Grapevine." What's Going On, as he conceived and produced it, was like no other record heard before it: languid, dark, and jazzy, a series of relaxed grooves with a heavy bottom, filled by thick basslines along with bongos, conga, and other percussion. Fortunately, this aesthetic fit in perfectly with the style of longtime Motown session men like bassist James Jamerson and guitarist Joe Messina. When the Funk Brothers were, for once, allowed the opportunity to work in relaxed, open proceedings, they produced the best work of their careers (and indeed, they recognized its importance before any of the Motown executives). Jamerson's playing on "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)" functions as the low-end foundation but also its melodic hook, while an improvisatory jam by Eli Fountain on alto sax furnished the album's opening flourish. (Much credit goes to Gaye himself for seizing on these often tossed-off lines as precious; indeed, he spent more time down in the Snakepit than he did in the control room.) Just as he'd hoped it would be, What's Going On was Marvin Gaye's masterwork, the most perfect expression of an artist's hope, anger, and concern ever recorded.
 
That's an absolutely stunning album. It's not political in any significant or intelligent way though. It's hippie stupidity at it's worst.

If you consider that piece of music to be political, then you very obviously have no idea.

feck sake. And you're supposedly schooled in R&B...
 
Well. I admit it's political in the sense of "politcally interested" but it is very obviously politically stupid and useless.
 
Right. Just wanted to illustrate the fact that you are indeed a moron.
 
Sorry, I added this to my last post: "I dare you to quote some of his politcal lyrics in order to change my mind."

Please do, in order to show me as the moron I am.
 
I've already gotten what I was looking for out of this thread, thanks. Toodles.
 
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Marvin Gaye wouldn't approve of this. Love your brother, love your sister, love your caftard.



Rockets
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Spend it on the
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Love Prison Song by SOAD but not keen on the political message.