Modern Draft QF: Skizzo vs Michaelf7777777

Who will win this match


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Skizzo ---------------- Vs.------------------------- Michaelf777777

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Tactics Team Skizzo

Formation/Tactical Synopsis: The old footballing adage that matches are won and lost in midfield rings particularly true in the modern era. To this end, we've reinforced this critical area with modern greats Luka Modric and Arturo Vidal to forge arguably the best possible midfield unit possible in this pool. Lining up in a 3-4-3 formation, we aim to establish effective control in the centre of the park and create goalscoring opportunities for our prolific centre-forward Aguero and his strong supporting cast.

Defence: David De Gea's heroics in goal for Utd are almost taken for granted now, such is the regularity with which he salvages matches for us. Already an all-time great, he's at the top of the food chain alongside Neuer in this pool. In front of him are Toby Alderwireld and Kostas Manolas. Two center backs who are defenders first and foremost. Manolas often playing the covering role for his defensive partner, while Alderwireld being most of the playmaker from the back. Completing the three man defence is Bayern Munich prodigy David Alaba. Coming off a relatively quiet couple of seasons, it's worth remembering the incredible impression he made as a youngster. and specifically his stupendous displays in this LCB role under Guardiola. Some quotes from our resident Bayern supporters:

Should be interesting how Alaba's injury changes Pep's tactics. He was more or less the one key player to make that back three work in his box to box centerback/midfield role, can't think of anyone in the squad who can replace him.

David Alaba's knee injury probably puts an end to Guardiola's highly successful three-man back-line, because Bayern doesn't have a player with Alaba's allround abilities who can defend as a LCB and switch into the role of a box-to-box midfielder within seconds.

This season is really cursed, the only thing which would make the situation even worse is an injury to Jérome Boateng, then our build-up will be completely destroyed. Imagining Benatia and Dante in high line of defence also causes headaches.

For the moment I guess it's back to 4-3-3 with Rafina-Benatia-Boateng-Bernat at the back. Let's hope Alaba will be healty enough for the winter training camp in January.
I'd argue we can replace anybody in the back-three expect for David Alaba, even Jérome Boateng with his exceptional laser-like and precise build-up. I don't know if even many Bayern fans realize this, but right now Guardiola and him are inventing a new position nobody has ever played quite like Alaba in the history of world football - or at least in the past decade.

A player who's capable to play as a LCB, who is strong and quick, can pass the ball, is an excellent box-to-box midfielder in his own right and defines all of his team's transitions from attack to defence and vice-versa. That's extraordinary in many ways, but especially because he's not getting exposed in defence.

I have been wondering why David Alaba has not been growing as a pure LB last season. His performances seemd a little underwhelming overall, but this season shows that he's probably been eagerly anticipating an opportunity to prove his worth in a more central role and he's simply extraordinary.

Heck yeah, he is something like Olaf Thon's/Lothar Matthäus' version of sweeper/libero transponded to modern age football :D

It seems a tendency that the importancy of one-to-one performance diminishes in favour of all-round skills with fullbacks and even centrebacks. Where 10 years ago, defending was a man-to-man action performed by dedicated ball-away-hoofers and tacklers with the rest of the team watching them, it is today a full team-effort starting with the #9.

A few times during the last games, he remined me a lot of Sammer, a way more likeable version of Sammer of course. He's like an extra man in defense, in midfield and in attack at the same time. It's beautiful.

Midfield: Simply a dream unit in the context of this draft. Busquets has played a critical role as the anchoring midfielder in some of the best teams in history, and his style should mesh superbly with the best midfielder of his generation in Luka Modric. Much as he did for Pep's possession-hungry Bayern team, new addition Arturo Vidal will add a dynamic, combative edge to our technically brilliant midfield. That trio provides a great platform for Mario Gotze in the No. 10 role. The news last year that Gotze had been diagnosed with a rare metabolic disorder finally explained Gotze's mystifying loss of form after a scintillating early career. A technically superb playmaker with a real cutting edge, Gotze racked up 31 goals and 44 assists in 116 games during his first stint at Dortmund, following this with 15 goals and 13 assists during his debut season at Bayern before illness and injury stymied his career.

Attack: Ivan Perisic and Jose Callejon will play as wingers, pushing up and primarily offering width, with license to come inside when the opportunity arises. Both will look to drop deeper and defend to stop the full backs bombing on against us. Sergio Aguero will play as our striker, looking to link up with the other forward players and put away any chances that come his way. With four successive 20 goal plus PL campaigns under his belt, Aguero is one of the most reliable and deadly goalscorers in the pool, and he'll thrive in this team with the level of control and creativity behind him.[/QUOTE]

Tactics Michaelf7777777


My team will play a 4-3-3 formation with Salah and Griezmann cutting in from the wings and Dybala playing as a deep lying forward. My midfield 3 consists of Javi Martinez who will be my main ball winner in midfield, Khedira who will playmake from deep while being defensively solid and Paul Pogba who will be playing in a box to box role. Width will be provided by Pogba and Kimmich with Lucas Hernandez having a defensive fullback role.
 
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First off, good luck @Michaelf7777777

Just some quick first thoughts before heading off for training.

  • Having my set up as it is works well for this match, primarily because everything from the opposition comes centrally. Dybala dropping deep towards Busquets Area, while the two inverted wingers move in towards Alaba and Alderweireld, and Manolas covering. With all three of them being solid defensively, as well as having the pace to deal with the opposition attackers, they’ll stifle most attack’s.
  • Midfield control. Busquets, Modric, Vidal, and Gotze are all good on the ball and would dominate the midfield areas in possession by both numbers and work rate.
  • The midfield four, as well as the front three, are all able to press hard and win the ball back quickly as we lose it. That lack of time on the ball wont suit the opposition as Pogba especially would prefer more time on the ball to try and pick out forward passes.
  • Limiting the oppositions attempt at width by Perisic tracking Kimmich, and Pogba being tracked by Modric and cut out of the game if he looks to move wide, giving us more control centrally.
All in all Michaelf has a lot of good players but I think we’re better set up to negate his threats and exploit our strengths.
 
Would like to hear some thoughts about the set up.

We have the best, and most consistent, striker on the field, the best keeper by far, and the midfield to both dominate proceedings going forward, and stifle the oppositions central oriented attacks when we defend.

With the opposition proclaiming Dybala is dropping deep, he puts himself into the middle of the condensed space. Same with both wingers cutting into similar areas. Makes it easier for us to defend. Relying on Kimmich for width on the right is nullified by both Vidal who played as a wingback for Chile, and Perisic who is known for his work rate and would stop Kimmich being able to push on.

Pogba being the other width option on the left is far from ideal as he’s shown he lacks the consistency to influence a game without a specific set up.

With Juve he had arguably the best midfield in the league, and attacking full backs outside him to draw attention. Here he has a defensive full back, and a winger who would cut centrally.

Not to mention we’ve seen these last couple of seasons how often he’s been at fault for hanging on to possession and being slow to release the ball, costing goals at the other end.



He is a big part of the oppositions midfield here, and when they’re already outnumbered, and a far inferior unit, he would be too much of a liability defensively which we could exploit.
 
With Juve he had arguably the best midfield in the league
Pirlo, Vidal and Pogba as arguably the best midfield in the league? What a controversial point :lol:
 
Whats the point of the Griezmann upgrade? Dont understand it, loved the front line in the first round and now it looks like something Woodward and other United geniuses would do....think the attack was much better in first round and you wasted a golden opportunity to upgrade your team elsewhere or with someone that would be a better fit.
 
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Whats the point of the Griezmann upgrade? Dont understand it, loved the front line in the first round and now it looks like something Woodward and other United geniuses would do....think the attack was much better in first round and you wasted a golden opportunity to upgrade your team elsewhere or with someone that would be a better fit.
What has Lozano done to feature in a quarter final?
 
What has Lozano done to feature in a quarter final?

nothing, after i posted went to see the team to remind myself who was the left forward as i forgot so i added the better fit bit...Griezmann should play where Dybala plays, makes no sense IMO to play both nor they can play together if you want both at their best.
 
Some thoughts on this match:

Firstly, I have three great goalscorers (in Griezmann, Dybala and Salah) while the opposition only has three defenders which means there will be a lot of one on one defending with little cover which means that any mistakes or Alaba being caught upfield when possession is lost will be swiftly covered.

Secondly, I don't think my opponent will dominate midfield but that it will be a close matchup in terms of qualitywith 6 very good midfielders going toe to toe with each other.
 
Some thoughts on this match:

Firstly, I have three great goalscorers (in Griezmann, Dybala and Salah) while the opposition only has three defenders which means there will be a lot of one on one defending with little cover which means that any mistakes or Alaba being caught upfield when possession is lost will be swiftly covered.

Our defenders won’t be isolated, nor will they be left one on one. You also have the issue of trying to consistently provide good balls to them to be able to do something with.

And then there’s Big Dave in goal even as a last resort.

Secondly, I don't think my opponent will dominate midfield but that it will be a close matchup in terms of qualitywith 6 very good midfielders going toe to toe with each other.

“Six very good midfielders” is being a very generous assessment. Pogba would be the only one in conversation, and even that would be when he was part of the Juve midfield which was light years ahead of any of the competition.

Vidal, Modric and Busquets, individually and as a unit, are far and away a better midfield. Not sure why you completely discount Gotze either.
 
I think Michael has a very good set up to exploit Skizzo's team. 3-4-3, especially a bit like diamond in the middle is prone to conceding on counters, more so when the other side boosts with players like Griezmann, Dybala and Salah.

as Michael said there will be a lot of 1 on 1 situations and that would create goalscoring opportunities for him.

Having said that, Skizzo's midfield is too good and the difference is much bigger to the opposition, which might result in him controlling most of the game. He doesn't have that many runners who can hassle the opposition constantly (bar Vidal), but has 2 hardworking wingers who can probably offset a bit that pressing high.

To me he narrowly edges it due to having superior midfield and Aguero.

Had Michael upgraded with Godin instead of Griezmann as first pick I think he'd win this game as Godin would've taken care of Skizzo's main goalscoring threat and limiting his presence and authority on the game.
 
I reckon having no fullbacks or wingbacks allows Griezmann, Dybala, and Salah a few too many chances. Pogba probably steps out to the left every now and then in this setup and I don't think Modric is the right player to track him there.
 
I reckon having no fullbacks or wingbacks allows Griezmann, Dybala, and Salah a few too many chances. Pogba probably steps out to the left every now and then in this setup and I don't think Modric is the right player to track him there.
Indeed.
Also Alaba in back 4 is one of the best full backs in the pool, even as a DM he was quality but from my memories when he played as a LCB or a CB at Bayern he wasn't very good, which is odd given the qualities he has.
 
Indeed.
Also Alaba in back 4 is one of the best full backs in the pool, even as a DM he was quality but from my memories when he played as a LCB or a CB at Bayern he wasn't very good, which is odd given the qualities he has.

I disagree on Alaba. He made a huge impression in that LCB role under Guardiola from memory, and the quotes from the Bayern fans in the OP would support that. A good article from the Guardian from that era:

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ch-champions-league-juventus?CMP=share_btn_tw
 
I disagree on Alaba. He made a huge impression in that LCB role under Guardiola from memory, and the quotes from the Bayern fans in the OP would support that. A good article from the Guardian from that era:

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ch-champions-league-juventus?CMP=share_btn_tw
Cheers for the link mate. Had the same impression but from memory when he was used as a CB in drafts he wasn't really well appreciated and was criticized for his positional sense and heading ability.