To be fair, RAWK wished a lot worse, more in the frame of broken legs and death.
Mo Salah
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To be fair, RAWK wished a lot worse, more in the frame of broken legs and death.
Yeah feck me, I’d have to copy and paste even more shite while being on a tablet. It’s nonsense too, Salah has brilliant numbers for Egypt from the looks of it.
What do you in all your scouse wisdom make of the claim that Neymar’s never ever had a season nearly as good as Salah (who obviously in the most literal sense statistically tops anything Neymar’s ever done)? Because that’s what this was about...
Revisionism as it finest.
Sneijder wasn't even voted Inter's best player of the season back in 2010. It was Milito and rightfully so.
Or the fact that Sneijder wasn't picked in Serie A team of the season.
Never mind that he wasn't MVP in any of the tournaments he played in 2010
- Serie A POTY: Milito
- UEFA Club footballer of the year: Milito
- UEFA Super Cup MOTM: Reyes
- FIFA CWC Golden Ball: Eto’o
- World Cup Golden Ball: Forlán
Sneijder's 2009-10 season is overrated due to team achivements. Was he influential? Of course.
But just because he was the common factor between two teams doesn't mean that he was the best player in the world.
From Zonal Marking on Sneijder - who didn't even make his best XI of World Cup 2010.
His player of the season? Lionel Messi.
Messi scored 47 goals for Barça in 09/10 season & carried Argentina to the WC quarterfinals in spite of having a utter crap coach in Diego Maradona.
47 goals was a brilliant achivement, the last person to do that was R9 in 96/97 season - who won a Ballon d'Or for that performance.
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Absolutely. Hindsight is great. I wasn't fully convinced about Salah myself. Was hoping he'd get us 10-15 goals as Mane's sub.
He's having a great season, and if he comes close to it next season then you can debate where he stands in terms of the best players in the world. But at the moment he's just having a one off out of character season.
Liverpool always had super world class players one after another like Fowler, Torres, Gerrard, Suarez, Coutinho and now Salah. However 1 gem is not enough to win the League as Liverpool has to many average players especially in defence.
I expect Salah to go to Real/Barca and then somehow manage to find another gem and repeat, while no League. Cups maybe...
I expect Salah to go to Real/Barca and then somehow manage to find another gem and repeat, while no League. Cups maybe...
Where did christiano Ronaldo stand in 2009 when he followed up his 42 goal season with 26 goals?
What a player, it just looks so simple and effortless with him. How he will follow up next season will be interesting, whether he is still at Liverpool or not.
Absolutely. Hindsight is great. I wasn't fully convinced about Salah myself. Was hoping he'd get us 10-15 goals as Mane's sub.
To be fair I don't think even the most ardent Salah fan thought he would be as good as he has been. I personally thought he would be the pound for pound the signing of the summer, thought he would bag 15 league goals and everyone would talk about what a bargain he was. But to be at worst now the 2nd best player in Europe is something I can't see anyone would have foreseen.
It was pretty disappointing in terms of goals scored in comparison, but he was still key in leading us to the title and another CL final, so not too bad.
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Yup, we cannot tell at this point of time whether Salah is just doing a Leceister. We need to see what happens next season as well .
Great player having a world class season.
What I don't understand is why Mourinho seems to be the only manager who has had the imagination to instruct a player to man mark Salah.
If you watch his two assists last night, Salah is alone on the wing with acres of space to run into - not a defender in sight. It's madness. Have a player shadow his movement so that he doesn't have the luxury of receiving the ball with time to look up and start running at you.
Let's hope Bayern or Real look at how United / A.Young dealt with him.
What I don't understand is why Mourinho seems to be the only manager who has had the imagination to instruct a player to man mark Salah.
If you watch his two assists last night, Salah is alone on the wing with acres of space to run into - not a defender in sight. It's madness. Have a player shadow his movement so that he doesn't have the luxury of receiving the ball with time to look up and start running at you.
Let's hope Bayern or Real look at how United / A.Young dealt with him.
Just a bit frustrating how other clubs are able to get these £30-40m gems! But what a player! What a season he's having!
Just imagine Liverpool raking in £300m from TWO players??
Just imagine Liverpool raking in £300m from TWO players??
Have you been on social media lately? All the betting sites on facebook and the people commenting are comparing him to Ron and Messi.
To be fair, Klopps style is working wonders for their attack not just Salah, Firminho and Mane have been on fire. Imagine Ron and Messi, Lewandowski, Suarez, Neymar, Aguero, Kane. They would be banging them in more than they are for their own clubs in my opinion.
Salah is sublime, but is he any better than those mentioned? Klopp has an amazing attacking system that is helping Salah play the way he is.
Any top attacker in this Liverpool system would perform brilliantly. Put the same attackers in Uniteds current system and they don’t perform the same way.
It isn’t about them buying bargains, it is the system of play that helps. Swap Lukaku and Salah and they would have a similar goals return.
He suffered a bad injury in the summer and took a while to regain full fitness.
I would say Ronaldo offered more than Salah though so a dip in goal returns would hamper Salah more than it would Ronaldo.
Heres the annoying bit. Klopp didn't even want Salah, the transfer committee had to convince Jurgen he was worth it
With how shite we have been from the right this season (and the past
Only problem with that is everyone will know they have money and rob them blind. See Barcelona Neymar/Dembele.
Only problem with that is everyone will know they have money and rob them blind. See Barcelona Neymar/Dembele.
On the balcony of his mansion, at dawn, looking forlorn in madrid's direction?
Incidentally, that's how Salah will stand too in a few months
I don't agree on the Lukaku point He would make Liverpool a lot worse as a team. Klopp's system relies on a high pressing number 9 in the mould of Firmino. Lukaku is the worst pressing number 9 I can think off and he isn't technically gifted on the counter like Firmino is.
I agree that Liverpool's system suits Salah and enhances his performances but it isn't a case of just dropping any player into any system and getting the same results.
Any top player I said, Lukaku would maybe take a little while to adapt but he would still be good, maybe not how Salah has been but still a good player.
Was just making a point of Klopp’s system.
Any top attacker with pace and good movement sure. Lukaku wouldn't be a natural fit in any of their attacking positions imo and neither would Martial without improvements, you could make an argument for Rashford.
Still both teams struggle against a packed and structured defence. I'd expect Salah to be frustrated next season as more teams plan for his movement.
Let's be honest their 3 at the back was idiotic, the LCB Juan Jesus was as slow as an oil tanker, Salah had it FAR too easy, they never got close.
I think because he was their ex player and he wasn't "this" good back then, they thought they'd handle him easier?
If Salah was a United player and had the season he's had, we'd have had Real Madrid pulling every dirty trick this summer to turn his head. Liverpool is very beneath his ability, and he should leave asap.
On the balcony of his mansion, at dawn, looking forlorn in madrid's direction?
Incidentally, that's how Salah will stand too in a few months
In all seriousness, just where the hell does such form come from?
Nah. Manager didn't expect them to shit it and collapse as soon as liverpool increased the tempo. They were losing every 50/50 ball, players were consistently caught out of position, losong the ball under no pressure. There was a moment back on 1-0 where roma won the ball back at the edge of their box, 3 roma players around the ball, 2 in front waiting for a pass, two liverpool players somewhat close but not really to those 2, and firmino 15 yard behind the defenders, who spent like a full 2 seconds just standing there looking at the ball, allowing firmimo, who'd initially given up on the play, to run back and nick it away
That said it all. Complete breakdown, on every level. Di Francesco at one point told them to set up in a 433 and they set up in a 4231 instead...
Confidence. Improvement in his decision making and touch/technique. But mostly confidence
What a bargain he is.
Best transfer this season sadly.
Best transfer this season sadly.
Well yes they were like deer in the headlights also - but it was a very clear mistake to leave him isolated 1v1.
Think it was an outstanding performance of him. The Messi comparisons are deserved, he would have been proud of the match Salah had yesterday. Not only because of his scorers but the way he played. Had some very good dribbles (especially before one of the assists) and passes. A very, very impressive player. I remember Leverkusen were linked with him at the beginning of his career and I watched some of his videos where he already was a brillant dribbler. Hadn't heard of him again so I assumed he was one of these players who had much talent but simply lacked productivity in their solo runs. Never expected he would turn into such a player at Liverpool.
Of course career-wise, he can't be compared with both Ronaldo and Messi but right now he shows performances which are up there. Of course Ronaldo is a totally different player and Messi is a real prodigy but Salah is finally someone who at least for one season steps up to them. Think we've seen this very rarely throughout their eras, especially compared to the much broader range of their Ballon D'Or predecessors. Probably this has also do with the concentration of talent. Other potential contenders like Neymar, Iniesta, Xavi, Modric, Kroos etc. simply played with them and stood in their shadows. Salah is not and I like that.
Also I guess we are kind of spoiled by Messi and Ronaldo. Before them it wasn't uncommon that players only stepped up once they reach the 25 year mark (see someone like Zidane) and keep that level for maybe 3-4 years.
Of course career-wise, he can't be compared with both Ronaldo and Messi but right now he shows performances which are up there. Of course Ronaldo is a totally different player and Messi is a real prodigy but Salah is finally someone who at least for one season steps up to them. Think we've seen this very rarely throughout their eras, especially compared to the much broader range of their Ballon D'Or predecessors. Probably this has also do with the concentration of talent. Other potential contenders like Neymar, Iniesta, Xavi, Modric, Kroos etc. simply played with them and stood in their shadows. Salah is not and I like that.
Also I guess we are kind of spoiled by Messi and Ronaldo. Before them it wasn't uncommon that players only stepped up once they reach the 25 year mark (see someone like Zidane) and keep that level for maybe 3-4 years.
A carbon copy of messi...he sealed his position as the third best player.Now to B'allon d'or.
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Take a boo Blue.
This is like an anti anti jinx.
Unbaffle yourself man. It's unseemly.
We’re stull baffled. No one saw this coming, even Klopp.
You make a good point.
Tbf, he was even better 2 seasons before, in 06/07 (where he had more than 20 goals and 20 assists) - he then followed that up with his 42 goal season in 07/08 and then dragged us to another title the season after - needless to say, he proved himself and then some.
No wonder the tenure of managers tends to be so short if they're too pig-headed to look to win important games, rather than setting up in a certain idealised fashion irrespective.
Don't get me wrong if you're Barcelona or City and are winning 95% of your matches a certain way then maybe there's an argument for this (although it's still stupid as City have shown 3 times in a row). However for a team like Roma going away to Anfield where they are a big underdog anyway, employing tactics that essentially treat the most in-form player in the world like he's Andros Townsend is absolute suicide.
Because he could never win top honours like the European Cup at Liverpool, one of the most storied clubs in world football.
Have you not noticed what happens when Liverpool have one of the best forwards in World Football...?
You sign them. You showcase them. They leave.
That's what happens.
Genuine question - If Salah maintains this kind of form (Ronaldo, Messi etc) how long do you genuinely expect him to stay with you?
Because if he does maintain that form, he'll be being offered 450,000 a week from bigger clubs who win trophies regularly.