Mo Salah

Fair play to him he's done well but it feels like a one off season to me, he's come nowhere near his current stats and was a complete flop at Chelsea. He's a 15 goal a season player who's had a great year.

The feck is he compared to the worlds best after a 8 month run?? :lol:
 
Castia said:
Fair play to him he's done well but it feels like a one off season to me, he's come nowhere near his current stats and was a complete flop at Chelsea. He's a 15 goal a season player who's had a great year.

The feck is he compared to the worlds best after a 8 month run?? :lol:
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According to WhoScored, he played only 608 minutes for Chelsea. That is equivalent to less than 7 full games, I'm not sure you can judge him on his Chelsea days.

He's currently one of the best in the world, easily.

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Sigma said:
According to WhoScored, he played only 608 minutes for Chelsea. That is equivalent to less than 7 full games, I'm not sure you can judge him on his Chelsea days.

He's currently one of the best in the world, easily.

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Maybe im missing something but all that tells me is before this season he's hit double figures with goals twice in his career? the most was 15 goals, people smirked when Liverpool signed him in the summer he's not suddenly a world great after an 8 month patch of form.

Deserves Player of the year and he's been great for Liverpool but fecking hell there's people comparing him with Neymar in this thread.
 
Bwuk said:
I’d take Salah over Neymar.
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This season yeah.. but Neymar is the better player thus far in their careers to date. Very premature to say Salah > Neymar at this moment in time.. if Neymar was playing for Liverpool, he'd be tearing it up too (but has also proven he can play for a side like Barca and still perform).
 
Salah is having a phenomenal season but Neymar is a different class. Neymar doesn't play for counter-attacking sides and doesn't have so much space to operate in. He scored 39 goals for Barca in 14/15 while playing second fiddle to Messi.
 
Castia said:
Maybe im missing something but all that tells me is before this season he's hit double figures with goals twice in his career? the most was 15 goals, people smirked when Liverpool signed him in the summer he's not suddenly a world great after an 8 month patch of form.

Deserves Player of the year and he's been great for Liverpool but fecking hell there's people comparing him with Neymar in this thread.
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Anyone who watched Salah in his career knows that he was on the up each season. His numbers were increasing each season than the previous one.
 
Danny Roberts said:
Can't see it. Ronaldo hitting crazy form. Although I don't know when voting takes place.
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Voting happens in Nov / Dec.

I know it’s very unlikely but if Argentina and Portugal go out in the group stage or Round of 16 and Salah gets to a Quarter final plus a CL final (hope they lose!) I think he would have a shot.

The award pretty much goes who’s the best player on whoever won the World Cup / CL.
Unless its a German side then pick either Messi or Ronaldo haha.
 
el3mel said:
Anyone who watched Salah in his career knows that he was on the up each season. His numbers were increasing each season than the previous one.
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Yeah no doubt but hes almost 26 and this is his real first great season, to see him labelled the best in the world and compared to the likes of Neymar is absurd after just 8 months at Liverpool.
 
I don't see this as being a one season wonder Salah, he passes the eye test. it's not like when James Beattie scored a shitload of goals one season but everyone knew he was actually pretty average.

and everyone said the same thing about Kane in his first season. and his second. and then they started to realise that actually maybe he's just really good.

but agreed he's not at Neymar levels
 
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Anyone who watched Salah in his career knows that he was on the up each season. His numbers were increasing each season than the previous one.
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In the summer I had a feeling Salah would be the signing of the summer as he had the raw materials to really succeed and as you say was always improving. The fact that he has a big shot of being player of the year was beyond my comprehension.
 
Castia said:
Yeah no doubt but hes almost 26 and this is his real first great season, to see him labelled the best in the world and compared to the likes of Neymar is absurd after just 8 months at Liverpool.
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On the form of this season he earned it. I don't see any absurd thing in it.

He was always doing all this impressive movement behind defenders, his style of play was always the same but his problems earlier in his career was his finishing being inconsistent. This finishing kept improving every year till it bursts our this season.

We don't know if he'll keep up these numbers or not next seasons ( Which I think if he keeps this level of finishing he'll easily keep scoring 20-30 goals each season imo) but regarding his form this season, I don't see anything absurd in suggesting he's having a big shot to be one of the top 10 players in the world currently, based on form at least.
 
I had a fear for most of the season that he was a one season wonder but not any longer. The way he he scores his goals shows too much class, composure and skill to be just confidence. He plays as if time slows down when he is on the ball.
 
He's incredible. Tbh I think he wouldn't be the same player in terms of effectiveness if he went to Barca or Madrid. He could well and truly cement his place as a Liverpool legend if he stays and resists offers from abroad.
 
Saying he's a top 10 player in the world is not absurd

Saying he's on the level of neymar is absurd. I don't think most people here really have an idea of just how good neymar is
 
Take the tinted specs off lads, he’s absolutely disgustingly good and one of the best in the world. For the record, I hate Liverpool with every fibre of my being.
 
Hopefully he tears apart the world cup because then Perez wouldn't miss out on him. He'd pay whatever the price .
 
giorno said:
Saying he's a top 10 player in the world is not absurd

Saying he's on the level of neymar is absurd. I don't think most people here really have an idea of just how good neymar is
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He is having a magical season, but so did Jamie Vardy 2 years ago. Lets see if this is his normal level
 
Not saying Salah is a better player, but I would rather have him than Neymar. Neymar is a primadonna who need the team exactly how he wants it or he will sulk, on top of that he seem to need to be the one who do everything. Salah is a better team player, easier to deal with in the dressing room, and make those around him better.
 
giorno said:
Saying he's a top 10 player in the world is not absurd

Saying he's on the level of neymar is absurd. I don't think most people here really have an idea of just how good neymar is
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Neymar is talented as hell but he also has a terrible attitude. I'd rather have a team player like Salah
 
hellohello said:
Not saying Salah is a better player, but I would rather have him than Neymar. Neymar is a primadonna who need the team exactly how he wants it or he will sulk, on top of that he seem to need to be the one who do everything. Salah is a better team player, easier to deal with in the dressing room, and make those around him better.
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Loublaze said:
Neymar is talented as hell but he also has a terrible attitude. I'd rather have a team player like Salah
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Neymar is one of the best playmakers in the world. He makes football a hell of a lot easier for his teammates. Only Messi makes it easier than him. Playing next to him usually makes you better.

Yes he's got a personality. Big ego, sure. Never had any attitude issues at barcelona. Beloved by his teammates. Willingly sacrificed parts of his game and his numbers for the team, for 3 seasons

What is or isn't happening at PSG should not erase his time in barcelona...
 
clarkydaz said:
He is having a magical season, but so did Jamie Vardy 2 years ago. Lets see if this is his normal level
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Jamie Vardy has been consistently good for a couple of seasons now, but to compare his season when they won the league to Salah's current season is misguided imo.

Salah has already scored comfortably more goals in the prem alone than Vardy did that season. Plus Vardy is a pure striker unlike Salah, although you could argue that towards the end of the season Liverpool are starting to use him as one.
 
RichMet said:
Jamie Vardy has been consistently good for a couple of seasons now, but to compare his season when they won the league to Salah's current season is misguided imo.

Salah has already scored comfortably more goals in the prem alone than Vardy did that season. Plus Vardy is a pure striker unlike Salah, although you could argue that towards the end of the season Liverpool are starting to use him as one.
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All true but Salah is what 25? Odd for a player to suddenly become so prolific hey? I agree its abit like afew seasons ago when we are suggesting Kane wasnt worth 100m because he hasn't done it consistently...Kane is the safer bet purely because his success isn't so linked to the teams style of play. I don't think Salah would shine in a Mou team....even now...or alot of teams....he's with the perfect manager for his game....and I don't think moving to a big club would help him :)
 
Comparing Salah to Neymar at this point is ridiculous, when Salah does what Neymar did for Barcelona in that game v PSG last season then those comparisons can be made
 
RichMet said:
Jamie Vardy has been consistently good for a couple of seasons now, but to compare his season when they won the league to Salah's current season is misguided imo.

Salah has already scored comfortably more goals in the prem alone than Vardy did that season. Plus Vardy is a pure striker unlike Salah, although you could argue that towards the end of the season Liverpool are starting to use him as one.
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Well yeah its not a comparison to Vardy as a player, more the impact he has had on a season. As you say he has scored bucketloads this season, and bias aside I would be slightly surprised if he can do this consistently. if so, a very special player
 
The most annoying thing about this guy is that he's so fecking likeable.
I want to hate you, Mo!
 
clarkydaz said:
Well yeah its not a comparison to Vardy as a player, more the impact he has had on a season. As you say he has scored bucketloads this season, and bias aside I would be slightly surprised if he can do this consistently. if so, a very special player
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I agree, it's certainly early days but injury aside I don't see any reason he can't continue the form as he is in a side which perfectly suits his style and will probably only get better once Kieta and hopefully other quality players arrive next season.

Klopp has found a player that suits his style perfectly.

Of course, there is the chance that people other teams might find a chink in his game but not looking that likely currently.

I for one, am hoping he turns out to be that very special player you mentioned.
 
Seems unlikely that he’ll play on Saturday which is understandable. No point in risking him when his pace will be crucial on Tuesday.
 
RichMet said:
Jamie Vardy has been consistently good for a couple of seasons now, but to compare his season when they won the league to Salah's current season is misguided imo.

Salah has already scored comfortably more goals in the prem alone than Vardy did that season. Plus Vardy is a pure striker unlike Salah, although you could argue that towards the end of the season Liverpool are starting to use him as one.
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As amazing as Salah has been I don't like it when people try and overplay his achievements based on the whole 'he's not even a Striker' line. The way Liverpool play means he's certainly not a convential wide player with defensive responsibilities either in fact I wouldn't be surprised to see if Firminho's touch map doesn't show more activity deeper than Salah over the course of the season
 
Salah is basically a striker for them. He has the least amount of pressing responsibilities and is usually the furthest forward attacker, while Firmino takes those responsibilities for him.

To be honest, I think Firmino is the link with these Liverpool forwards playing so well, Mane was electric last season playing the same role as Salah this season. This season he has taken a backseat and suffered as a result.
 
If he does this again next season, well then the comparisons can start with the likes of Neymar, but even then it's a stretch. He's had a ridiculously good season either way, Liverpool always seem to obtain that special player that drags them through the mud, until he's inevitably sold.
 
charlenefan said:
As amazing as Salah has been I don't like it when people try and overplay his achievements based on the whole 'he's not even a Striker' line. The way Liverpool play means he's certainly not a convential wide player with defensive responsibilities either in fact I wouldn't be surprised to see if Firminho's touch map doesn't show more activity deeper than Salah over the course of the season
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Firmino should be compared to creative forwards like Bergkamp, Zola and Dalglish.

Salah to players like Henry, Ronaldo and a non play making Messi.

In terms of style and role that is. It's absurd to compare either to those players in terms of level of performance and accomplishment.
 
charlenefan said:
As amazing as Salah has been I don't like it when people try and overplay his achievements based on the whole 'he's not even a Striker' line. The way Liverpool play means he's certainly not a convential wide player with defensive responsibilities either in fact I wouldn't be surprised to see if Firminho's touch map doesn't show more activity deeper than Salah over the course of the season
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Exactly,
 
Shark said:
If he does this again next season, well then the comparisons can start with the likes of Neymar, but even then it's a stretch. He's had a ridiculously good season either way, Liverpool always seem to obtain that special player that drags them through the mud, until he's inevitably sold.
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Neymar? He's been regarded as a great talent since he was a kid? He's got skills Salah doesn't come close to. Its like comparing Ronaldinho with.....I'm struggling to think of another 25 year old who has shined liked this....
 
The difference in level is as follows. Neymar has won everything he wants to at Club football and so has moved for a big paycheque. At the same age Salah is for the first time being considered a top player.

Neymar is a special, special player that would be appreciated far more had it not been for Messi and Ronaldo making everyone look worse than they are.
 
charlenefan said:
As amazing as Salah has been I don't like it when people try and overplay his achievements based on the whole 'he's not even a Striker' line. The way Liverpool play means he's certainly not a convential wide player with defensive responsibilities either in fact I wouldn't be surprised to see if Firminho's touch map doesn't show more activity deeper than Salah over the course of the season
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I agree with you up to a point, as Salah is definitely made better by Fermino dropping deep. And I am sure that Fermino's heat map would show him much deeper than Salah.

I would say that in the earlier part of the season that Salah was definitely a more conventional wide player but since Xmas (roughly) I'd say he had been very much a right sided striker.

My last post of the day BTW.
 
breakout67 said:
The difference in level is as follows. Neymar has won everything he wants to at Club football and so has moved for a big paycheque. At the same age Salah is for the first time being considered a top player.

Neymar is a special, special player that would be appreciated far more had it not been for Messi and Ronaldo making everyone look worse than they are.
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He'd be appreciated far more if he didn't move...but instead fought the fight which was infront of him at the time at a fantastic club to showcase his talent on a global scale....he basically did the opposite of Ronaldo....I'm not saying we couldn't show case his talent but Madrid...could do it better..as has played out..unfortunately.
 
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