Mo Salah

I think it's dangerous to just dismiss Liverpool as potential winners. If there is one club that can do it against the bigger sides, it is going to be Liverpool. They have always been deemed the underdog with glaring weaknesses but in the big ocassions they always seem to play way beyond their expected level.

The last part of your post is spot on but to do it for five games ( QF / SF and Final ) against Europe's elite may be asking a bit too much.
 
Meh, I think Real would be way too experienced and savvy for us. Just imagine Asensio or Ronaldo against Gomez or Alexander-Arnold with Marcelo going up and down the sideline the entire game. Porto were atrocious (and still we were lucky not to concede on two occasions), but Real would capitalize on our defensive issues.

We can score in any game so I'd back us to score one or maybe two away goals against basically any side (not saying we will but it's possible), but still... I'd rather get the likes of Roma, Shakhtar or Sevilla next round - a good chance to reach the semis of the CL which would be glorious. No one except rival fans will remember the path to the finals if you get there.
I agree. I was in no way saying, that we were favourites against the top teams, or that I wanted any of them in the next round. I was replying to a poster who said, that the top teams hoped to draw Liverpool.
 
Saying that we done it in 2005. Juventus 2 - 1 / 0 - 0.
Chelsea 0 - 0 / 1 -0
AC Milan You know what happened.
 
I highly doubt Barca, Real or Bayern would rather face United than Liverpool. Not only have we a superior team but a vastly superior manager too who, unlike Klopp, knows how to win the Champions League.
You may be right. But you're only two points ahead, and we have shown better form than you lately. We have also played more of the top6 fixtures than you have.

If you have a superior team and a vastly superior manager, you need to make it count on the pitch, which you haven't.
 
I don't think anyone would want us. We can lose to Swansea, but we can also beat City, and you don't know which you're going to get. Predictability is much more welcome, I believe. So yes, Man Utd are a much better side to face for the big guns.
 
I don't think anyone would want us. We can lose to Swansea, but we can also beat City, and you don't know which you're going to get. Predictability is much more welcome, I believe. So yes, Man Utd are a much better side to face for the big guns.
Liverpool have a good record against the other top 5/6. Always seem to raise their game. Our record in those matches hasn't been good enough, needs to improve drastically next season. Where we make up for it is that we're less likely to drop points against the likes of Swansea, etc, as you say.

But yeah, disgusts me to say, but any of the top PL sides would prefer to play us than Liverpool going purely on recent form in those matches alone.
 
Liverpool next season could well be challenging for the title. They bring in Keita, they already have VVD. If they could possibly get another quality defender and possibly a GK they would be good to go. That is assuming Salah and Sane keep or up their game next season. If this all happens, there's no reason next season they can't be a force domestically.
 
The quality of the opposition matters. Norwich got relegated that season. But it is just my opinion. I'm perfectly fine with different stances.

No of course, and your opinion is valid and understandable. And I actually agree with it to an extent, but I think you have some performances where opposition doesn’t matter as much (to a certain degree, as long as we’re still talking professionals to a certain level) and I think that Suarez performance was one of them. Generally I agree with you though (don’t know why I said you were very wrong) the better the opposition the better the performance is regarded.
 
I don't think anyone would want us. We can lose to Swansea, but we can also beat City, and you don't know which you're going to get. Predictability is much more welcome, I believe. So yes, Man Utd are a much better side to face for the big guns.

In the league, yes, you are right. But cup games are Jose's bread and butter, and I would think the likes of Real, Bayern and Barca would prefer to draw Liverpool. A good record against the league's top 5 does not translate into Champions League success.
 
he's been brilliant and could fire Liverpool forward next season but sometimes players have just one amazing season and then go back to being mediocre dross. If I could take one Liverpool player, it wouldn't be him (it would be Mane)
 
he's been brilliant and could fire Liverpool forward next season but sometimes players have just one amazing season and then go back to being mediocre dross. If I could take one Liverpool player, it wouldn't be him (it would be Mane)


Surely, your are being factitious.
 
he's been brilliant and could fire Liverpool forward next season but sometimes players have just one amazing season and then go back to being mediocre dross. If I could take one Liverpool player, it wouldn't be him (it would be Mane)
He has been brilliant but as a Liverpool fan, I know what you mean. Mane’s form has been a little up and down lately but he does generally play a little deeper than Salah and Firmino. I just love him as a player, he’s got a wonderful unpredictability about his game. Sometimes that’s frustrating, when it’s good though, it’s exceptional. I remember when we bought him, the talk had all been about Mario Gotse, who in the end wouldn’t commit until after that year’s Euro’s, he obviously wanted a ‘bigger’ club, and we weren’t in the CL that season. Anyway, I, and many others, were not too impressed with the club’s ambition at the time, going from Gotse to Mane. Now, though, I’m so pleased we got him.
 
Unless of course we're going to change the scores for all games that include "goals" that is.
 
New Kop chant :

"Mo Sa-la-la-la-lah, Mo Sa-la-la-la-lah, if he's good enough for you, he's good enough for me, if he scores another few, then I'll be Muslim too,"
 
he's been brilliant and could fire Liverpool forward next season but sometimes players have just one amazing season and then go back to being mediocre dross. If I could take one Liverpool player, it wouldn't be him (it would be Mane)
I find it very hard to chose one of Mané, Firmino, Salah.. They are all three very important to our attack. An injury to any one of them, and we're in trouble.
 
Think he will only leave if they dont get top 4, which they will.
I guess the money could get so crazy, and that Salah could go full berserk, but I really can't see us selling Salah after only one season. If RM or any one else come calling, they'll have to wait at least a year no matter if we get CL or not. Selling one of our best players two seasons in a row will not go down well with the fans.
 
I guess the money could get so crazy, and that Salah could go full berserk, but I really can't see us selling Salah after only one season. If RM or any one else come calling, they'll have to wait at least a year no matter if we get CL or not. Selling one of our best players two seasons in a row will not go down well with the fans.

Agreed, don't think a club will come in with crazy money after just one season either.
 
I guess the money could get so crazy, and that Salah could go full berserk, but I really can't see us selling Salah after only one season. If RM or any one else come calling, they'll have to wait at least a year no matter if we get CL or not. Selling one of our best players two seasons in a row will not go down well with the fans.
There are some rumours of a release clause in his contract weather effective this year or not, i have no idea.
 
Liverpool next season could well be challenging for the title. They bring in Keita, they already have VVD. If they could possibly get another quality defender and possibly a GK they would be good to go. That is assuming Salah and Sane keep or up their game next season. If this all happens, there's no reason next season they can't be a force domestically.

Yes, we need another CB to partner VVD and if the Karius trial, till season’s end, fails then a keeper too. But it is in midfield that we are most deficient. Keita is one but with him we’ll need another two players. A box to box player like Keita and a no. 10 to link to the front 3.
Thats possibly 4 new players to start next season! Not sure it will happen though.
 
I guess the money could get so crazy, and that Salah could go full berserk, but I really can't see us selling Salah after only one season. If RM or any one else come calling, they'll have to wait at least a year no matter if we get CL or not. Selling one of our best players two seasons in a row will not go down well with the fans.
Clubs don't quite get to decide, if a player makes it clear he wants to go. This is true of real madrid, nevermind liverpool
 
Clubs don't quite get to decide, if a player makes it clear he wants to go. This is true of real madrid, nevermind liverpool
True.. But plenty of examples where they didn't get the move right away when they wanted it, eg Suarez, Coutinho. Didn't Ronaldo wait a year too before going to Real?
 
True.. But plenty of examples where they didn't get the move right away when they wanted it, eg Suarez, Coutinho. Didn't Ronaldo wait a year too before going to Real?
Sure, it all comes down to context. Didn't fergie specifically said he didn't sell cristiano in 2008 because he didn't want to sell to calderon? Coutinho left 5 months after handing in the transfer request. Pretty sure if barcelona made a £140m offer in July, he'd have gone then...
 
I would say we missed a trick not signing him, but who am I kidding, he'd be practically playing right-back if he played for us.

Wonderful player to watch. Hopefully Madrid or PSG or someone come in with a ridiculous bid soon. We all know Liverpool are a selling club.
 
They would take two of Mane, but with S and K instead of M! Thus replacing Ronaldo and Benzema! :p

That took me a second. "Skane? Who the feck is Skane? Ahh... Ohhh!" I think I'm still a bit drunk, forgive me.
 
Meh, I think Real would be way too experienced and savvy for us. Just imagine Asensio or Ronaldo against Gomez or Alexander-Arnold with Marcelo going up and down the sideline the entire game. Porto were atrocious (and still we were lucky not to concede on two occasions), but Real would capitalize on our defensive issues.

We can score in any game so I'd back us to score one or maybe two away goals against basically any side (not saying we will but it's possible), but still... I'd rather get the likes of Roma, Shakhtar or Sevilla next round - a good chance to reach the semis of the CL which would be glorious. No one except rival fans will remember the path to the finals if you get there.
Imagine the likes of Shevchenko, Maldini, Nesta, Seedorf, Kaka, Crespo and Pirlo up against Traore, Kewell, Riise, Cisse and Baros too ;)

Or what was that incredible game at the Nou Camp where Arbeloa, in his first game for us I believe (and playing out of position) had an incredible game keeping Messi in his pocket ? And we held back Ronaldinho, Deco, Xavi etc and ending up winning 2-1.

Basically what I'm saying is it's impossible to write us off, as everyone did in 2005 through each successive round. And that goes for pretty much any team making the QFs. Once you're there then for sure there will surprises in store for some teams.
 
Did we enquire about Asenso and get told he'd cost 700m Euros? How much do Real think we're going to start negotiations with for Salah before settling? ;)

Player can leave in two years if the money's not right. He doesn't seem like the going on strike type. Not for two years.
 
There are some rumours of a release clause in his contract weather effective this year or not, i have no idea.

Well I'd get that dream out your head haha. No player in Liverpool's squad has a release clause nor a future release clause. It's well known that Liverpool make sure any player who signs doesn't have a release clause. Emre Can has been after one and it's one of the biggest sticking points apparently in his contract negotiations as Liverpool don't want any of their players to have release clauses, which is completely understandable.

It's clearly a rumour made up by rival fans who're trying to hope and dream he has one because of how good he's been this year. Can't really blame them.
 
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Yes, we need another CB to partner VVD and if the Karius trial, till season’s end, fails then a keeper too. But it is in midfield that we are most deficient. Keita is one but with him we’ll need another two players. A box to box player like Keita and a no. 10 to link to the front 3.
Thats possibly 4 new players to start next season! Not sure it will happen though.

Couldn't agree more on needing a new CB and GK if Karius doesn't work out. Midfield is a definitely a weaker area for us but I disagree on needing a second box to box. Feel like a deep lying playmaker would make more sense like a Xabi Alonso mould who can dictate play. Torreira would be my ideal but there are quite a few top players around who'd fit that role though like Rabiot, Fabinho, Ndombele etc. plus as you say a number 10 to link to the front 3 like a Fekir, Pulisic etc. is also needed as we are lacking in that area a little after losing Coutinho. I think 3-4 new starters is what we need if we want to possibly challenge but whether FSG will fork out the money who knows.